Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

[LeonVegaSuarez]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

A month or so ago I read a lot of complaints on here like "GSP, Khabib and DC are OP" and that it was too easy to lay and pray basically. No matter what the devs change, there are always complaints.

[Dave_S]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

Justin's block doesn't break because punches slip around and throw it, along with his arms bouncing on his face. Just look at his face in real life fights.

[Bigg Cee]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

You are talking a bit in extremes. Block break down was dropped universally but fighters with better block ratings will still be significantly better than average fighters when it comes to their blocks breaking down.

Also you have Justin G. analyzed wrong. Justin doesn move forward holding block alot. What he does is stand still during a block and moves forward once his opponent stops throwing (an example: Round 1 of the Poirier fight). He's a pressure fighter but he isnt just holding block and walking forward. He also gets his block broken a bit but he has a great chin and heart so he survives.

I'm fine with that change. I was sick of people solely relying on block as a means to create pressure. Use all of the tools: Block, head movement, movement to create pressure. Any newbie can just move forward and use block.

Any newbie can just pick the best strikers and spam the same crap over and over. Pick Conor now with this patch and it makes any person a striking god.

I don’t understand this thing of calling players a newbie because they hold block and come forward.

[aholbert32]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

It's not lame, it's true. I actually felt terrible for GPD when game dropped because of what happened to grappling, but he seems okay with it.

I'm just being honest and can't quite determine the genre the game is aiming for.


What some people might think is lame is attacking every user's ideas that aren't pro EA or disagree with you.

Unless they are playing Cee most good players laugh at the grappling, like laugh hard, and it's not like Cee doesn't have loses

Also bitching and discussing, and bringing things more to light are completely different things.

You arent bringing anything new to light. Your post has been written tons of times by other people. You know that. You also know they are working on some improvements. But I guess after someone incorrectly called you out for being "an EA shill", you had to switch up the way you post.

I'm gonna ignore that "attack every user's idea" line because you know that **** isnt true.

The fact is this forum more than anything has the chance to be constructive. Why? Because the devs are here responding and reading most posts. Thats not the case with Madden or NBA 2k or Fifa or pretty much every other game.

Discussion threads are awesome if they come up with ideas because the devs have shown they are willing to consider those ideas and implement. But bitching posts like the one you made here arent constructive. They dont add anything to the game. What makes it worse is you did it just to bitch. I can understand those posts if you dont know the devs are working on your issue but you do. ****, I bitch all the time on the Madden forums but the devs there dont interact with us so its fair game.

Anyway, it doesnt matter. They are working on somethings to improve grappling. It will likely be in the next patch.

[Dave_S]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

A month or so ago I read a lot of complaints on here like "GSP, Khabib and DC are OP" and that it was too easy to lay and pray basically. No matter what the devs change, there are always complaints.

Strikers said that. A lockdown from the bottom would help if that was still the case, but it's already silly painful just to get to the ground.

[aholbert32]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

Any newbie can just pick the best strikers and spam the same crap over and over. Pick Conor now with this patch and it makes any person a striking god.

I don’t understand this thing of calling players a newbie because they hold block and come forward.

Thats not true at all. Its crazy that people are bitching about something that is a ****ty game mechanic AND not based in realism. The only fighter I've seen consistently moving forward holding block is Nate and he doesnt do that much.

I know that hold block moves makes it easier for YOU to close distance and potentially get people to the ground but this game isnt just about you. There are other ways to close distance. Use those.

[aholbert32]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

A month or so ago I read a lot of complaints on here like "GSP, Khabib and DC are OP" and that it was too easy to lay and pray basically. No matter what the devs change, there are always complaints.

Thats OS for you. Actually its the old EA forums. I can find post after post of people complaining that block is too strong over the past 2 mos. They weaken it and now people want it to be as strong as it was again.

[Dave_S]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

You arent bringing anything new to light. Your post has been written tons of times by other people. You know that. You also know they are working on some improvements. But I guess after someone incorrectly called you out for being "an EA shill", you had to switch up the way you post.

I'm gonna ignore that "attack every user's idea" line because you know that **** isnt true.

The fact is this forum more than anything has the chance to be constructive. Why? Because the devs are here responding and reading most posts. Thats not the case with Madden or NBA 2k or Fifa or pretty much every other game.

Discussion threads are awesome if they come up with ideas because the devs have shown they are willing to consider those ideas and implement. But bitching posts like the one you made here arent constructive. They dont add anything to the game. What makes it worse is you did it just to bitch. I can understand those posts if you dont know the devs are working on your issue but you do. ****, I bitch all the time on the Madden forums but the devs there dont interact with us so its fair game.

Anyway, it doesnt matter. They are working on somethings to improve grappling. It will likely be in the next patch.

I did not do it to bitch, I have been legitimately confused since the game came out what EA was aiming for.

If I just wanted to bitch I wouldn't constantly try and help people and make notes about what I like about game, along with tell Devs I appreciate them, greatly.

I also have a sense of humor.

Oh well. I really do like A-Aron, it's been fun communicating with him for the most part.


If anyone needs me I'll be on Twitter and the MMA section of this forum.

[Dave_S]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

Thats not true at all. Its crazy that people are bitching about something that is a ****ty game mechanic AND not based in realism. The only fighter I've seen consistently moving forward holding block is Nate and he doesnt do that much.

I know that hold block moves makes it easier for YOU to close distance and potentially get people to the ground but this game isnt just about you. There are other ways to close distance. Use those.

What level you play at?

[johnmangala]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

This is like increasing the vulnerability on people moving forward and moving into a strike. No one would argue that's unrealistic. It's similar here.

You are moving your block into someone's strike, amplifying the effect.

[Bigg Cee]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

Thats not true at all. Its crazy that people are bitching about something that is a ****ty game mechanic AND not based in realism. The only fighter I've seen consistently moving forward holding block is Nate and he doesnt do that much.

I know that hold block moves makes it easier for YOU to close distance and potentially get people to the ground but this game isnt just about you. There are other ways to close distance. Use those.

please tell me what other ways you can close distance in this game with out using block?

Playing at the highest level of ranked and trying to avoid the 99 power of Rumble or the 99 striking speed of DJ or the 99 accuracy of McGregor. Then throw in some latency from online players around the world.

Hmmmm... sounds easier said then done. Let me know when you can do this online going up against some of the best players.

[aholbert32]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

What level you play at?

Me? I'm Div 4. I'm average as hell. Whats funny is all of my fellow GCs at Div 5 and 6 all agree with that change.

I honestly feel like im in the ****ing Twilight Zone because Ive seen a bunch of posts over the last few months complaining about people can just hold block and how block is OP. Now its a problem its been nerfed?

Its **** like this that makes the devs hesitant to listen to the forums. If the community is going to bitch either way, why listen to them?

[aholbert32]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

please tell me what other ways you can close distance in this game with out using block?

Playing at the highest level of ranked and trying to avoid the 99 power of Rumble or the 99 striking speed of DJ or the 99 accuracy of McGregor. Then throw in some latency from online players around the world.

Hmmmm... sounds easier said then done. Let me know when you can do this online going up against some of the best players.

Then throw on top of that having your block break so easy moving forward. I don’t know what other stuff you can use besides combo breaking and doing the same crap over and over.

Head movement while moving forward. Striking while moving forward.

But you know what? I honestly dont give a **** about the best players in the world. LOL. I honestly dont. I'm kind of sick of 50 people (who are pretty much playing each other) driving the meta of this game.

I'm sick of suggestions being made because some dickhead (not you Cee) found a exploit that 99% of the community wont or likely isnt skilled to use and the devs taking real development time to focus on that fix. That time could go towards other features but the folks on the leaderboards say its GAMEBREAKING.

I'm sick of the constant balance discussions. At Div 4, I dont give a **** if I face a Khabib and he beats the **** out of me on the ground when I pick Edson Barboza. Why? Because Khabib should beat the **** outta of me if I'm using Edson Barboza. Just like I should own Khabib if I keep it standing.

I'm sick of high level ranked players acting like they want realism when they really want realism that fits their playstyle. We have people here who get upset when certain exploits are fixed simply because it makes their style harder. Even if the exploit was unrealistic.

Anyway, I'm happy that we are likely halfway through with the patches so the devs can quit tinkering and move on. Its a game of whack a mole. They fix one problem and another one will pop up.

[johnmangala]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

Me? I'm Div 4. I'm average as hell. Whats funny is all of my fellow GCs at Div 5 and 6 all agree with that change.

I honestly feel like im in the ****ing Twilight Zone because Ive seen a bunch of posts over the last few months complaining about people can just hold block and how block is OP. Now its a problem its been nerfed?

Its **** like this that makes the devs hesitant to listen to the forums. If the community is going to bitch either way, why listen to them?

Because the community isn't one person.

[Paledude45]

Re: Is this an MMA game or Kickboxing game?

Me? I'm Div 4. I'm average as hell. Whats funny is all of my fellow GCs at Div 5 and 6 all agree with that change.

I honestly feel like im in the ****ing Twilight Zone because Ive seen a bunch of posts over the last few months complaining about people can just hold block and how block is OP. Now its a problem its been nerfed?

Its **** like this that makes the devs hesitant to listen to the forums. If the community is going to bitch either way, why listen to them?

If the developers didn't listen to the complaints the game would have remained in an incomplete - and dare I say - broken state. That said, you can never satisfy some people lol.