How is outside fighting considered OP?

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Re: How is outside fighting considered OP?

I don’t follow your logic here.

The outcome depends to a large degree on the skill if your opponent. You’d be surprised to learn that a good number of the top 100 are there not because of a well rounded skillset but because they are proficient at exploiting certain unintuitive aspects of the game.

I was talking about how playing as a grappler is a style that is not as effective as it should be, didn't have anything to do with well roundedness. Just like there is a disadvantage striking against Conor with Khabib there should be a disadvantage in grappling, but grappling right now is pretty easy to neutralize so you're almost always better off playing as a striker unless it's a good grappler/striker like gsp.

and I agree that it's skill based, I don't know what "well-rounded" means in this game to you but all of the top 50 know the most effective grappling methods and ways to counter them + how to strike. Maybe not all top 100 since I face a lot of guys who get countered pretty easily

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Re: How is outside fighting considered OP?

I was talking about how playing as a grappler is a style that is not as effective as it should be, didn't have anything to do with well roundedness. Just like there is a disadvantage striking against Conor with Khabib there should be a disadvantage in grappling, but grappling right now is pretty easy to neutralize so you're almost always better off playing as a striker unless it's a good grappler/striker like gsp.

and I agree that it's skill based, I don't know what "well-rounded" means in this game to you but all of the top 50 know the most effective grappling methods and ways to counter them + how to strike. Maybe not all top 100 since I face a lot of guys who get countered pretty easily

I agree. it was because people were complaining in the first few weeks that they were being held down by grapplers. Rather than making it so that grappling could actually finish fights.. they made it so that the stats barely mattered and it was easy to hang with good grapplers on the ground regardless.

in ea ufc 2 when i got it to the ground there was almost always a finish. I had hundreds of fights with a 9:1 win ratio, most wins were submission or GNP


in ea ufc 3 I can take conor down as GSP or Gunnar Nelson and 93 times out of 100 the conor gets up or survives the round because he sits in back mount bottom

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Re: How is outside fighting considered OP?

I agree. it was because people were complaining in the first few weeks that they were being held down by grapplers. Rather than making it so that grappling could actually finish fights.. they made it so that the stats barely mattered and it was easy to hang with good grapplers on the ground regardless.

in ea ufc 2 when i got it to the ground there was almost always a finish. I had hundreds of fights with a 9:1 win ratio, most wins were submission or GNP


in ea ufc 3 I can take conor down as GSP or Gunnar Nelson and 93 times out of 100 the conor gets up or survives the round because he sits in back mount bottom

yeah, there are a lot of stall positions available that make it difficult to do damage on the ground. At this point the sprawl position is an easy getup since any attempt to transition after the initial 2 second period is a reversal. Since side control is one of the only positions to do real damage and sprawl is so easy to get from side control, it kinda ruins a grappler's game unless they are fighting someone who has no idea what they are doing.

I find myself mostly using grappling to steal rounds by stalling if I ever do use it at all, and I use it with someone like Tony Ferg or Diaz who already have standup skills

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Re: How is outside fighting considered OP?

Quick bump for the new patch info.

We will have to see what happens but looks promising, other than the cage cutting off part.