Re: How is outside fighting considered OP?
You have 2 GCs fighting hard but I'll be honest you have 4 other ones fighting just as hard against us.
I said this to them and I'll say it to you. I have no dog in this fight. I'm a offline player who plays online every once in a while. During Season 1, I had around 200 fights and that was a lot for me.
If they dont make any movement changes or if they go in the opposite direction because "running" is too effective, it likely wont effect me much. The AI is programmed to only pressure with fighters who pressure in real life so I can have diverse fights where we throw 100 strikes a round or 60. I'll just do like I did with UFC 2 and stop playing online.
With that said, it irritates me to no end to see how this debate has gone. One, there is a clear issue with even how people define "running". I define it as someone who has low output and who's sole purposes is to avoid strikes and never strike back.
Thats not the definition the people who claim running is a problem use. They consider running "any one who fights defensively off oth their back foot". Doesnt matter if that person is throwing 120 strikes a round. As long as that person is pushing forward the majority of the round...he's a runner.
So with definitions that different, its hard to come to a consensus.
Two, people talk "skill level" alot. They say that buffing outside fighting will decrease the skill level. People will be able to sit outside and pot shot which to them isnt difficult and requires very little skill. They also believe that the fact that they can pressure inside and have studied the game to know the combo and head movement patterns that are most successful, that shows a higher level of skill.
Now that may be true. I dont fight at Div 5 or above so I dont know. That point could be valid. Maybe if outside fighting is buffed, highly skilled players will just sit outside and never take chances to get a win.
Finally, they claim that the majority have recognized that "running" (their definition) is the new meta. I've heard numbers like 70% of the people they run into are "runners". I countered by saying that no one has showed me any vids of actual runners and I've seen maybe 20 plus of them provided to me by higher level players (to be honest, there was 1 that I would consider a runner. He took a beating for an entire round and basically used the block and lunge to avoid being finished).
I also countered that there are a good amount of top players on OS and I havent seen a single thread about running. They disagreed with that and claimed that its well know in the top division that running is one of the biggest problems.
So this is where we are. Its funny because 1 1/2 mos ago when I first started talking behind the scenes I thought it was going to be a non-controversial topic but boy was I wrong.
You have 2 GCs fighting hard but I'll be honest you have 4 other ones fighting just as hard against us.
I said this to them and I'll say it to you. I have no dog in this fight. I'm a offline player who plays online every once in a while. During Season 1, I had around 200 fights and that was a lot for me.
If they dont make any movement changes or if they go in the opposite direction because "running" is too effective, it likely wont effect me much. The AI is programmed to only pressure with fighters who pressure in real life so I can have diverse fights where we throw 100 strikes a round or 60. I'll just do like I did with UFC 2 and stop playing online.
With that said, it irritates me to no end to see how this debate has gone. One, there is a clear issue with even how people define "running". I define it as someone who has low output and who's sole purposes is to avoid strikes and never strike back.
Thats not the definition the people who claim running is a problem use. They consider running "any one who fights defensively off oth their back foot". Doesnt matter if that person is throwing 120 strikes a round. As long as that person is pushing forward the majority of the round...he's a runner.
So with definitions that different, its hard to come to a consensus.
Two, people talk "skill level" alot. They say that buffing outside fighting will decrease the skill level. People will be able to sit outside and pot shot which to them isnt difficult and requires very little skill. They also believe that the fact that they can pressure inside and have studied the game to know the combo and head movement patterns that are most successful, that shows a higher level of skill.
Now that may be true. I dont fight at Div 5 or above so I dont know. That point could be valid. Maybe if outside fighting is buffed, highly skilled players will just sit outside and never take chances to get a win.
Finally, they claim that the majority have recognized that "running" (their definition) is the new meta. I've heard numbers like 70% of the people they run into are "runners". I countered by saying that no one has showed me any vids of actual runners and I've seen maybe 20 plus of them provided to me by higher level players (to be honest, there was 1 that I would consider a runner. He took a beating for an entire round and basically used the block and lunge to avoid being finished).
I also countered that there are a good amount of top players on OS and I havent seen a single thread about running. They disagreed with that and claimed that its well know in the top division that running is one of the biggest problems.
So this is where we are. Its funny because 1 1/2 mos ago when I first started talking behind the scenes I thought it was going to be a non-controversial topic but boy was I wrong.
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