OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

[dbly32]

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no

Okay apparently I have Chuck Knoblauch syndrome, from being 90-31, I am now 94-39. This is the worst stretch I've ever had, nothing I do seems to be working....FML.

[dbly32]

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reversal maybe? I still don't know how to block the clinch slams, but I reversed three slam attempts from the guard yesterday. I also beat a guy with a flying armbar yesterday as Alves vs. GSP, and it disconnected. FML

[AsianChexMix]

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Would this be the best way to train my character but still be challenged throughout the fight? I was thinking of setting everything on easy to do the sparring and camps (do they change difficulty with the increase of difficulty?) and then only on the fights do I shift it up to Expert. I realized that at my skill level, Expert is perfect for me. I don't steamroll through my opponents but at the same time it's a challenge and have to fight smart. Does this sound right to you?

P.S. I am not trying to do the exploit to make a 100+ character. I just want to have a 85-93ish fighter.

[TheShizNo1]

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Read the thread from beginning to end. Thanks for the help guys!

[Aces15]

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Is it just me, or is it impossible to get out of submissions on Advanced difficulty or higher, when the opponent is at least decent at submissions?

I was doing the classic fights on Advanced, where it was Griffin vs Rua, and Rua caught me with a submission straight out of full guard in the first round, and it didn't even look like I was close to getting out of it. What am I doing wrong?

Oh and this has happened more than once, I'm just giving one example.

[dbly32]

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Are you trying a technical escape or a brute force escape? I think the rule is if your fighter has a high strength rating then you should try mashing the face buttons, and if he has a high submission defense rating then you rotate the right stick. I was playing my career on expert, my CAF has like 75-80 strength rating and about 30-40 sub defense and I was able to get out of submission attempts from Marquardt by mashing buttons. I also got out of some attempts by Maia who has like a 92 submission rating.

[Tell22]

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That's literally the only good thing about wrestlers though... full mount from side, north/south, or halfguard up. Beyond that, it's a lot of stuffed slams, failed stamina-sapping signature transitions (mostly slams, which take a ton of stamina), limited submissions, limited ability to get out of bad positions...

I can win with wrestlers, but it makes the ground game very one-dimensional... if you're smart, you just try for Full Mount every time since you can't really submit anyone very easily from any other position. And unless you're the rare kickboxing/MT and wrestling combination, you don't even have many good strikes on the ground aside from those boxer punches from mount/guard. Unless your opponent doesn't know how to defend clinch slams or something, there isn't much to like about wrestling aside from the mount thing IMO.

Much like boxing really limits your striking arsenal, wrestling limits your ground arsenal. Clinch slams (and Judo trips/throws) are far too easy to defend to be very valuable -- and every time it's defended properl,y it turns into an immediate (and tough to get out of, often because you wasted stamina on the aborted slam attempt) submission attempt or side control.

If you like the slams and whatnot, I'd suggest Judo as a better alternative because you have a few subs from defensive positions, MUCH better transitions to get you out of trouble, and much faster/more unpredictable trips/throws from clinch that will have a better success rate than the slams. You still get countered from the clinch, but they're quicker and most people aren't used to playing against Judokas since there are only 2 real fighters with that skill and neither is used much online.

I AGREE Stumble,

Once you get a wrestler like Rampage/Brock on bottom then it is damn near impossible for them to get them back up.......

I really now only use 3 wrestlers in the game

Brock: only use him when people pick Mir...easy to pound Mir with Brock as long as I stay patient

Matt Hughes: Use him to counter GSP only...

Hendo (LHW/MW) is probably the guy I use most because his stand up is pretty good and he is a nice ground striker and good overall grappler

you have to watch the BJJ guys a lot more because they have sick reversals from almost every position ..no one is scared of a wrestler because the worst that can happen is they roll out to the standup. if you **** up against a BJJ guy they you are one transition away from being full mounted


Big Nog has the trip and I use exclusively to get Brock to the mat...guys with Brock will usually reverse to the guillotine but once you get out pounce right back on Brock and win the fight in the 1st round on the mat

[TheShizNo1]

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Anyway you can grab a leg when getting kicked and proceed to punch them from that position w/o taking them down?

[Aces15]

Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

Are you trying a technical escape or a brute force escape? I think the rule is if your fighter has a high strength rating then you should try mashing the face buttons, and if he has a high submission defense rating then you rotate the right stick. I was playing my career on expert, my CAF has like 75-80 strength rating and about 30-40 sub defense and I was able to get out of submission attempts from Marquardt by mashing buttons. I also got out of some attempts by Maia who has like a 92 submission rating.

Oh yeah I never thought about trying to rotate the stick, I always reverted to mashing the buttons.

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

[DakkoN]

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Anyway you can grab a leg when getting kicked and proceed to punch them from that position w/o taking them down?

Right stick down when they kick you. Only Forrest Griffin can do it. Knocks them down also.

[TheShizNo1]

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I've gone something like 6 and 2* since reading this thread. But still when I'm in the full mount, the guy just kills me. Everytime I try to roll out, the guy stops it.


*I dominated the guy all through the fight, and he got me w/ a lame *** arm bar

[dbly32]

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Try not to panic when the opponent gets you in the mount. If you are in the mount down position, remember that you can reverse their transition (when they try to get away from your grasp) and if you hit it right you will end up on top in the guard. If he's got the mount on, I don't know I usually have to get lucky to get out of it, you have to try to time the transitions correctly so that as they go to throw a punch, you transition to another position. Easier said than done, but if there's not much time left in the round your best bet might be to just go in full defense mode and ride out the clock. Sometimes I'll try to spam transitions but obviously that won't work unless you're playing someone who is new to playing the game. Better to get the timing right, cause the person on the offensive is thinking about keeping you in the mount, not necessarily pound away in the least amount of time. If you gas yourself out trying to transition out of it, you're making it that much easier for the opponent to submit you.

[darlon]

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Please tell me there's a better way to get out of the MTC other than hoping you're pushing your RS in the right direction. I see amateurs break my MTC all the time online but when I play real advanced cats, they know how to keep me in it. It's really starting to bug the hell out of me.

[COMMISSIONERHBK9]

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hey guys do you think it wise to buy the strategy guide? they finally put the e guide out for 8 dollars but i dont know if it worth it. what u guys think

[GrayFolded]

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Has anyone pulled off a submission in early rounds or without brutalizing the guy's body/legs for 10 minutes? Seems like they've gotta be at that tired slumped-over state to have the submissions work on anything but beginner.

That's the one area I hope they adjust slightly for the retail -- seems like there's no way to submit someone unless their stamina is shot, and even then, it's tough. I wish they accounted for the "surprise factor" of submissions -- like if you nail someone with a flying armbar out of nowhere, that should be harder to break than the obvious rear naked choke when you have their back, etc... submissions that come out of counters should be very tough to break.

In Year 6 or 7 I submitted (Rashad) Evans 30 seconds into the fight using Brute Force button....My CAF was a Judo/KB and his Sub Off was only a 50 something...I had taliored my fighter for Clinch Throws, Striking and G&P and never really attempted Subs with him at all...

Evans shot me 10 seconds into the fight and me attempting the Sub was PURELY a defensive move on my part (He was BASHING my head in).....I Tri-Choked him off my back using Brute Force Sub with about 4:30 something left in the 1st....

My next fight, same thing happened against Ortiz, Sub from my back with 3min left in 1st round (again, out of defense from G&P)..Neither fighter was "Hurt" at all, and I would assume that both were still "Green" on the energy bar (I play with Damage off)

In both cases I was SHOCKED that I had Sub them so quickly, I heard STRENGTH rating might have something to do with this, but I'm not sure (My strenght was in the 80's)..