The "boring" GSP stuff is very overblown. I remember watching that Hardy fight and couldn't believe Hardy wouldn't tap. I also don't see him being boring w/ this personal vendetta he's got w/ Diaz.
UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
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The "boring" GSP stuff is very overblown. I remember watching that Hardy fight and couldn't believe Hardy wouldn't tap. I also don't see him being boring w/ this personal vendetta he's got w/ Diaz.Originally posted by MoJust once I'd like to be the one they call a jerk off.Originally posted by MoYou underestimate my lazinessOriginally posted by Mo**** ya
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Re: UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
Listening to this now. Wow, GSP got serious as **** when Nick started talking about him being pampered. "Let me tell you something uneducated fool." This **** just got awesome lol.Last edited by Pappy Knuckles; 03-07-2013, 09:19 PM.Comment
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Re: UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
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Re: UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
First of all, GOAT conference call.
Dana: "No shocker we can't find Nick Diaz as soon as we do we'll let you know"
Nick: "HELLO??... ****er" (listen close, he says it)
"uneducated foohhll" HAHAHA
Ariel Hel-WINNI!
HAHA that soccer mom story had me ****in dyinggggg
Diaz: "if anything I'm the super hero coming in with the anti-bull ****. This is MMA, but this is something boring *** **** we've been watching lately."
When GSP said "I started from the bottom"He better come out to that now.
Chicks dig the long ball.
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BE ROYAL IN 2015!
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Re: UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
Tito Ortiz?Comment
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Re: UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
He was champ in strikeforce and was involved in a huge post fight melee. throwing a sucker punch at miller who he ducked.Comment
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Re: UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
In regards to the melee, you had Miller instigating and you had a large amount of guys in the cage. Strikeforce was asking for something to happen. The UFC would never allow that foolishness to ever pop off.Comment
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Re: UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
Strikeforce didnt have grounded elbows. Same with Pride. Some people think they serve no purpose other than cutting people.Comment
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Re: UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
I'm confused about the rules on elbows, didn't Strikeforce end up allowing grounded elbows? If I recall Gilbert Melendez, Diaz' teammate, used vicious grounded elbows on Kawjuri all fight long.
I see Diaz' point about this:
Diaz on MMA scoring and winning fights: “Everybody wants to be like GSP and overcome the technical aspect by being stronger and more explosive, and beating you to the punch in the scoring for five minutes. That’s not really what martial arts is about. This is MMA, and that’s what fans want to see. People want to see real skill level, real boxing and real jiu-jitsu mixed up. They don’t just want to see five minutes of holding.”Last edited by ex carrabba fan; 03-08-2013, 02:48 PM.Comment
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Re: UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
I'm confused about the rules on elbows, didn't Strikeforce end up allowing grounded elbows? If I recall Gilbert Melendez, Diaz' teammate, used vicious grounded elbows on Kawjuri all fight long.
I see Diaz' point about this:
I realize wrestling is a part of MMA but I think at some point it becomes something else than a fight. AND again, this is NOT speaking about GSP. Just in general, the scoring of the sport and the nature of it.Comment
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Re: UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
I'm confused about the rules on elbows, didn't Strikeforce end up allowing grounded elbows? If I recall Gilbert Melendez, Diaz' teammate, used vicious grounded elbows on Kawjuri all fight long.
I see Diaz' point about this:
I realize wrestling is a part of MMA but I think at some point it becomes something else than a fight. AND again, this is NOT speaking about GSP. Just in general, the scoring of the sport and the nature of it.
The knee-jerk reaction often is "well every fight can't be a slug-fest" and make it seem like people complaining about too much 'neutralizing' simply don't know MMA which is total BS. Almost everyone would agree takedowns are weighed much too heavily even when absolutely nothing is done with it. Most wrestling takedowns on their own do minimal to no damage.
So a change in scoring could actually curtail that strategy a bit. It's a reason I would like to see legalized up-kicks to a grounded opponent and I've said that many times as well as the whole putting your hand on the mat while in a position to be kneed solely to make it illegal for your opponent to knee you ie, manipulating the rules in a way to your benefit even though this was not the way they were intended to affect bouts. In the first case though, if you're taking me down and I'm down and you're smothering me and I create some separation - why in the hell can't I kick you in the face and try to knock you unconscious? Because we're on the ground? And that matters because? YOu brought me there, and I should be able to take advantage of any separation I can cause, especially to stop you from 'neutralizing' .
So that's my tangent!
But in the end, show me when GSP stops working in a fight and just holds someone down - he's usually trying to strike or work a sub. He's in a tough spot though for some fans because he simply lacks that firepower to KO someone for the most part - but what he does do almost 100% of the time is beat his opponent to a pulp where they feel it for weeks afterwards and dominates them the whole way.
In the end if GSP is able to beat Nick and finish him, I still see Nick not giving him any respect and making some crazy babble rant about how it was BS.Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.Comment
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Great posts Ex and AllBthere. Go back to the pride yellow and red cards. Or like the Bushido cards in which action was strongly encouraged.Originally posted by MoJust once I'd like to be the one they call a jerk off.Originally posted by MoYou underestimate my lazinessOriginally posted by Mo**** ya
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Re: UFC 158 - GSP v. Diaz & Condit v. McDonald 2 - Montreal - March 16
The cards though might be enough on their own, it would impact the way fighters train too because their coaches would get it in their mind during sparing which would then translate to the octagon I would think.Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.Comment
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