The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

[bigbob]

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I still think that's the best possible thing that could happen to the Intercontinental Championship.

Punk could make that belt matter again.

I mean, I agree that he could make the belt matter again.. but I also agree with Donkey. To me, the mid-card titles mean absolutely nothing, and it's unfortunate. At least they're trying to do something with the tag-team titles.

When was the last time someone had the mid-card titles and actually did something with them?

Kofi is one of my current favorites, and even when he had it, he did nothing with it.

[kingkilla56]

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CM Punk winning the IC belt? Please no.

[bigbob]

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I don't think the white belt would look normal on him. I'd like them to change it to black, or bring back the one Rock debuted all those years ago.

[kingkilla56]

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I dont think CM Punk would do anything for the IC title, and the IC title most certainly would do nothing for CM Punk. I dont even think Punk should ever carry the WHC again. Hes above that stuff to be frank.

[TheShizNo1]

Yea man, I don't wanna Punk with that belt. Once you win a top title, you should never be in a match for a mid card title.

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[Redacted01]

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Yea man, I don't wanna Punk with that belt. Once you win a top title, you should never be in a match for a mid card title.

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Triple H did it, but he was still in the main event with Two-Man Power Trip at least.

[TheShizNo1]

Triple H did it, but he was still in the main event with Two-Man Power Trip at least.

I know others have done it. I said they shouldn't.

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[Bellsprout]

How many times did Jericho hold the IC belt after he was the first undisputed champion?

[kingkilla56]

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How many times did Jericho hold the IC belt after he was the first undisputed champion?

They pushed him down the card after that undisputed stuff.

Thats what I dont want for CM Punk. Just not needed at this point.

[Bellsprout]

They pushed him down the card after that undisputed stuff.

Thats what I dont want for CM Punk. Just not needed at this point.

HBK held the European title forever too, didn't he?

I'm just saying it wouldn't be unprecedented. And if he went out for a few months with the belt, stole the show constantly with half hour, 40 minute matches, and talked up the once rich history of the belt and made it his stated mission to restore it to what it once was, it could be really good for that title.

He can't main event every month.

Also I find it odd that everyone is constantly jabbering about making titles mean something again, I say I want that to happen with this one, and then I'm wrong. Make up your minds people!

[kingkilla56]

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What would CM Punk do for the IC title exactly? I mean he held the WWE title for 400+ days; what did that do for THAT title?

Not that I care too much about pretend title prestige, but the WWE can do nothing to change what their grown fans think about their pretend belts' prestige.

Remember when Cody was IC champ for months and people were like "oh look at that boy Cody changing the belt white and bringing back my nostalgia and prestige oh boy!!" Then when he lost it, "aw that belt means nothing to the WWE! When will the belts matter?! yadda yadda".

Well same thing if Punk were to do it.

[TheShizNo1]

What the hell? Lol. Me nor King never said it hasn't or can't be done. Only that it shouldn't be done. All that other stuff is irrelevant.

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[Bellsprout]

What would CM Punk do for the IC title exactly? I mean he held the WWE title for 400+ days; what did that do for THAT title?

Not that I care too much about pretend title prestige, but the WWE can do nothing to change what their grown fans think about their pretend belts' prestige.

Remember when Cody was IC champ for months and people were like "oh look at that boy Cody changing the belt white and bringing back my nostalgia and prestige oh boy!!" Then when he lost it, "aw that belt means nothing to the WWE! When will the belts matter?! yadda yadda".

Well same thing if Punk were to do it.

Because Cody Rhodes is the same as Punk.

They wouldn't cut Punk's time on television if this were to happen. He'd be on just as much. It took me a good few minutes to remember who the Intercontinental Champion was the other night. That wouldn't be a problem anymore. It would be featured on television. Prominently. For the first time in years. It wouldn't be a complete afterthought in the minds of the fans anymore. It wouldn't be treated as though it's less important than the damn Divas title anymore. And that would help the entire mid-card going forward.

What the hell? Lol. Me nor King never said it hasn't or can't be done. Only that it shouldn't be done. All that other stuff is irrelevant.

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Why? Why shouldn't it be done? What else does he have to do? Bryan and Orton are doing their thing, Cena is gone, Lesnar is gone, he could have a good feud with Heyman/Axel over their personal stuff and over the belt, get the belt over as something that matters, and gear up to start main eventing again in the year leading up to Wrestlemania XXXI, since it seems pretty clear he won't be main eventing this next one already.

I don't see anything else compelling out there for him, might as well try something that could actually help legitimize the mid-card going forward.

[TheShizNo1]

Because when you "climb the mountain top" you never settle for anything less.

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[kingkilla56]

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Cody Rhodes isnt the same as Punk. But that wasnt the point I was making. Lets say Punk wins the belt and holds it for 6 months, after he drops it, who will give a **** about that belt?

The second it changes hands, that imaginary boost of prestige is lost because the IC belt is inherently, NOT IMPORTANT. Money in the Banks are 10x more important and you get two holders of that a year. The WHC is what that title used to be. So this fantasy of that title meaning something, is just that, a fantasy. That title, with the way the WWE has built its programming, will never satisfy this prestige demand that (some) fans have for it.

So Punk doing a program with Axel for that belt is pointless to me. Not only because Punk would do nothing for a belt they dont even care about, but Punk has bitchslapped Axel since he debuted. Who really wants to see Punk fight Heyman's lamest puppet after he just went to war with Lesnar?

Its just weak from every angle. And Punk doesnt need it. However, it may be a necessary means to an end because Punk is still feuding with Heyman. So I guess he needs to kill Axel a few more times. But really its only a matter of time before they insert him into the corporation storyline in some capacity.