The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

[Redacted01]

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I think WWE is caring about the US and IC Titles more. They've been getting more love since the summer, imo. The Tag Titles aren't going to mean anything if you don't have good tag teams.

That's a joke right? Rhodes has done nothing with it since he won it 5 months ago. Wrestling a semi-retired wrestler-turned-annoucer does not do a thing for it.

[Santino]

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Rhodes having a long reign gives it prestige. Ryder winning the US title was actually a big deal with the chase/build and Ziggler coming off a six month reign.

[Redacted01]

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Rhodes having a long reign gives it prestige. Ryder winning the US title was actually a big deal with the chase/build and Ziggler coming off a six month reign.

Doesn't give it prestige if you are defending it against people who are long past their prime. Based on that theory, Gillberg gave the Light Heavyweight title prestige...

[Santino]

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You must have missed his defenses against Ezekiel, DiBiase Jr, Sheamus, and Morrison. It's not like Booker couldn't go anymore, they had some good matches as well.

[Redacted01]

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That didn't help your case. That means he defended it against a guy who has been on TV a time or two since, Dibiase... eh, Sheamus ok, and a guy who was fired. And none of them were real feuds. They were a defense and that's it. You need an actual feud going on, you know, like he had with Randy, which doesn't help because Orton was in the World title picture.

[PatriotJames]

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That didn't help your case. That means he defended it against a guy who has been on TV a time or two since, Dibiase... eh, Sheamus ok, and a guy who was fired. And none of them were real feuds. They were a defense and that's it. You need an actual feud going on, you know, like he had with Randy, which doesn't help because Orton was in the World title picture.

Orton helped Rhodes get over big time, I don't know what you're talking about. Just like Randy is helping Wade get over (or was I should say).

[Redacted01]

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Orton helped Rhodes get over big time, I don't know what you're talking about. Just like Randy is helping Wade get over (or was I should say).

Getting over =/= adding prestige to the belt. The IC title was not involved in that feud at all other than Rhodes carrying it to the ring. The most prestigious thing to happen during the reign? Bringing the old design back. There is nothing memorable regarding that belt otherwise to me. A few spontaneous matches here and there, a feud with a semi-retired announcer, and a feud with a main eventer where the belt never came into play.

[PatriotJames]

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Getting over =/= adding prestige to the belt. The IC title was not involved in that feud at all other than Rhodes carrying it to the ring. The most prestigious thing to happen during the reign? Bringing the old design back. There is nothing memorable regarding that belt otherwise to me. A few spontaneous matches here and there, a feud with a semi-retired announcer, and a feud with a main eventer where the belt never came into play.

Getting over does add prestige to the title because Cody Rhodes was holding the title while he was getting over. Rhodes is wrestling like he's near main event status with the IC title just like Dolph was until they finally had to drop the title off Dolph because he was so over.

You're the only one who thinks this way as I look back and you've had 2 others argue against you so, this is my last message sir.

[soltrain]

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Getting over does add prestige to the title because Cody Rhodes was holding the title while he was getting over. Rhodes is wrestling like he's near main event status with the IC title just like Dolph was until they finally had to drop the title off Dolph because he was so over.

You're the only one who thinks this way as I look back and you've had 2 others argue against you so, this is my last message sir.

Rhodes is wrestling "with" the IC title in the same way that John Cena wrestles "with" a hat. It's basically entrance attire and nothing more.

I'm with Doc. The titles have no prestige at this point. And it's a damn shame.

[TracerBullet]

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At this point, I don't think a feud with anyone less than probably Sheamus would appease you guys at this point the way you go on every week. I disagree that just by having a feud with someone prestige would grow. Who is really out there for him to build prestige with right now. You guys already dislike any feud that's not on the main card for the most part. If he had have feuded with DiBiase or Zeke for longer than a month a lot of people on here would not have been happy. Same thing with Morrison.

In my opinion, him feuding with Orton, Booker T and now probably Goldust keeps him and the title in the spotlight much more than DiBiase or Zeke would have. Ziggler needed Ryder, someone whose popularity was growing rapidly, in order for the US Title to matter. There honestly isn't anyone he could feud with to get that kind of prestige at the moment.

I don't feel you can just force feed adding prestige to the title. You do that and you end up with the thing many complain about with the WH and WWE titles: A bunch of "you have the title and I want it" storylines. HEck, whenever they try to set up a feud these days, people seem to tire of it after a month or less unless it involves two main eventers and even those can't last too long.

That's just my opinion from what I see posted here pretty much everyday.

[DonkeyJote]

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The funny thing is, contrary to what most people on here probably think, Booker T is a bigger star than anyone who has held the IC title since Rey and Jericho feuded over it 2 1/2 years ago. How does feuding with Booker not help? Who else is a bigger star than Booker that is realistically going for the IC Title? Maybe Sheamus, and that's about it.

[PVarck31]

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I think Dolph Ziggler added a fair amount of prestige to the US title. I think he at least made it relevant again. If only because of his amazing athletic ability to put on awesome matches. His feud with Ryder was pretty good. Ryder's whole goal of being relevant ended with him winning that title. That was basically the goal.

I think they now need to have a feud between Ryder and Swaggs for the US title. It practically writes itself.

[TheShizNo1]

The funny thing is, contrary to what most people on here probably think, Booker T is a bigger star than anyone who has held the IC title since Rey and Jericho feuded over it 2 1/2 years ago. How does feuding with Booker not help? Who else is a bigger star than Booker that is realistically going for the IC Title? Maybe Sheamus, and that's about it.

B/c we all know Booker isn't going to win it, nor is he a full time wrestler.

[Redacted01]

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The funny thing is, contrary to what most people on here probably think, Booker T is a bigger star than anyone who has held the IC title since Rey and Jericho feuded over it 2 1/2 years ago. How does feuding with Booker not help? Who else is a bigger star than Booker that is realistically going for the IC Title? Maybe Sheamus, and that's about it.

If you had said this 5 years ago, sure, but not now. When you have a guy whose only appearance before this feud was in the Rumble nearly 1 year ago, it's not doing much.

[DonkeyJote]

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B/c we all know Booker isn't going to win it, nor is he a full time wrestler.

Really? I could've seen him winning and having a bit of a run with the title. But, seriously, who's more over with the crowd? Name a better opponent for Cody? You want real feuds, and you got one, but it's still not enough. You're even getting another one in Goldust (a 3-time Intercontinental Champion). How can you say they don't care about the title at all, when they're putting him in high-profile matches, with good feuds, FOR THE TITLE. His feuds have been the #2 or #3 feuds on Smackdown for months - he gets a ton of tv time, and defends the title on PPV's.

Cody Rhodes as IC Champ has had a match on the last 5 PPV's. Dolph Ziggler has done the same, wrestling 7 matches in those 5 PPV's. Starting with 2010's Bragging Rights before that, the IC Champion appeared on 8 straight PPV's (a lot of that being Dolph). 3 years ago, the IC/US Champions almost never appeared on PPV. They've done a great job of transforming both titles - they went from being mid-card titles that you never saw on PPV, to being upper mid-card titles that routinely appear on PPV, and the Champions are portrayed as real threats to Main Eventers, and are very often put into matches and feuds with Main Event stars. How can you still think they aren't trying to push those titles?