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  • DJ
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2003
    • 17756

    #2986
    Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by SmashMan
    Watching August 9, 1999 Raw. Big nostalgia trip because I was there.

    Michael Hayes' Hardy wardrobe...lol.
    Funny, I just finished watching the go-home RAW for WrestleMania XV (Stone Cold shows up in the Coors Light truck), which I attended. Still the loudest pop I've heard in person for a wrestler when Austin arrived.
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    • jvalverde88
      Moderator
      • Jun 2008
      • 11787

      #2987
      Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

      Watching the 1st World War 3 and the Joshis (female wrestlers) ****ing killed it.
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      Never let fear determine who you are. Never let where you came from determine where you are going.

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      • PhilliesFan13
        Banned
        • May 2009
        • 15651

        #2988
        Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

        If anyone is interested, Sin Cara and Justin Gabriel had a pretty damn good match on this past episode of Superstars.

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        • ubernoob
          ****
          • Jul 2004
          • 15522

          #2989
          Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by jvalverde88
          Watching the 1st World War 3 and the Joshis (female wrestlers) ****ing killed it.
          When you had Bull and Hokuto in a match, it's gonna be awesome.
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          • WWF80sKid
            All Star
            • Nov 2008
            • 7095

            #2990
            Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

            The reasons WWE beat WCW are simple.

            Austin, Rock, DX & WCW not making stars. I would say in about that order. I liked DX. But they were nowhere near Stonecold (in my opinion THE reason WWE won). Rocky was 2nd reason why.




            Then Gillberg.

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            • TheShizNo1
              Asst 2 the Comm Manager
              • Mar 2007
              • 26341

              #2991
              Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

              Idk how you can say DX wasn't near SCSA. Vince gave those guys unlimited time on the mic. Doing dumb parodies that ended up being classics. DX was a huge reason to not turn the channel away from WWF. From when it was HBK/HHH to HHH/X/NAO, DX delivered every time they were on TV.

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              • ubernoob
                ****
                • Jul 2004
                • 15522

                #2992
                Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                I tuned in more for DX than for anything else in that time period.

                Not that that should surprise any of you.
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                • WWF80sKid
                  All Star
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 7095

                  #2993
                  Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                  Well, honestly its all an opinion. Many people would say the Rock was the biggest reason WWE won. Its all subjective.

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                  • elTodd
                    Little Big Puig
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 1333

                    #2994
                    Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                    The Attitude Era was all about them fleshing out characters and giving them personalities. I feel like guys were allowed to express themselves more and were given mic time to do so. I don't see that at all these days.

                    If they think they're gonna be able to do that on the app or somewhere else that isn't cable tv, then they're sadly mistaken.

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                    • DJ
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 17756

                      #2995
                      Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Matt_GoBlue
                      The reasons WWE beat WCW are simple.

                      Austin, Rock, DX & WCW not making stars. I would say in about that order. I liked DX. But they were nowhere near Stonecold (in my opinion THE reason WWE won). Rocky was 2nd reason why.




                      Then Gillberg.
                      I'm with you. WWE did a much better job creating new stars than WCW. Also agree that Stone Cold and The Rock were the two leading the charge. And yes, DX was really over but I still don't think their overall impact was as great as some make it out to be. Triple H had to leave the group to go to the next level and the rest of the guys didn't do anything of note, so that hurts them historically, I think.
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                      • DonkeyJote
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 9192

                        #2996
                        Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by DJ
                        I'm with you. WWE did a much better job creating new stars than WCW. Also agree that Stone Cold and The Rock were the two leading the charge. And yes, DX was really over but I still don't think their overall impact was as great as some make it out to be. Triple H had to leave the group to go to the next level and the rest of the guys didn't do anything of note, so that hurts them historically, I think.
                        Triple H only left the group for 7 months, and then was the leader of the group for most of his initial run at the top (as heels, and minus Billy after he got hurt).

                        DX wasn't the biggest reason. But without DX, they might have lost too much ground before Austin won the belt. And without Triple H, I'm not so sure The Rock ever gets to that level of over that he got, because the Nation/DX feud is really what did it.

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                        • King_B_Mack
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24450

                          #2997
                          Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                          Triple H only left the group for 7 months, and then was the leader of the group for most of his initial run at the top (as heels, and minus Billy after he got hurt).

                          DX wasn't the biggest reason. But without DX, they might have lost too much ground before Austin won the belt. And without Triple H, I'm not so sure The Rock ever gets to that level of over that he got, because the Nation/DX feud is really what did it.
                          I don't know about that. Rock's feuds with Austin made him more than Triple H. Once Rock joined the Nation he was already getting himself over that's why he took over the Nation in the first place and that was before DX and the Nation started feuding. His run in the Corporation is what got him over as big as he eventually got plus his natural charisma and mic skills. Rock would have gotten over with or without Triple H. Though they're two career paths are still amazing to watch how they mirrored each other and they came up through the ranks almost at the same time.

                          But yeah, to the overall convo, like I said before, DX is being both oversold and undersold in this thing. What they were doing was huge for the company and the industry at the time. They were pushing the edge and showing what could and couldn't be done at the time.

                          Also, trying to determine a groups success based on what the guys did after they left the group? That's pretty weak man. Most of those guys were pretty successful though. About as successful as most other groups/teams. Would we question the Hart Foundation because Bret is the only world champion to come out of it? How many world titles came out of the Four Horsemen that didn't belong to Ric Flair?

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                          • TheShizNo1
                            Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 26341

                            #2998
                            Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Matt_GoBlue
                            Well, honestly its all an opinion. Many people would say the Rock was the biggest reason WWE won. Its all subjective.
                            Man, that's an easy way out. Idk many people that would say The Rock got it over. I'd give credit to SCSA before The Rock. And WWE's ratings starting picking up when the original dx was involved. That's not subjective and can't be ignored. **** was already established before the rock broke out.





                            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                            I don't know about that. Rock's feuds with Austin made him more than Triple H. Once Rock joined the Nation he was already getting himself over that's why he took over the Nation in the first place and that was before DX and the Nation started feuding. His run in the Corporation is what got him over as big as he eventually got plus his natural charisma and mic skills. Rock would have gotten over with or without Triple H. Though they're two career paths are still amazing to watch how they mirrored each other and they came up through the ranks almost at the same time.

                            But yeah, to the overall convo, like I said before, DX is being both oversold and undersold in this thing. What they were doing was huge for the company and the industry at the time. They were pushing the edge and showing what could and couldn't be done at the time.

                            Also, trying to determine a groups success based on what the guys did after they left the group? That's pretty weak man. Most of those guys were pretty successful though. About as successful as most other groups/teams. Would we question the Hart Foundation because Bret is the only world champion to come out of it? How many world titles came out of the Four Horsemen that didn't belong to Ric Flair?
                            I agree with all of this. Rock was over (as a once he got into the nation. The whole angle of him against McMahon before SS 98 also had him getting big face pops.

                            Agreed about the corporation, too. He was starting to get cheered while he was a heel. Rock was gonna get himself over, but I think HHH always resorting to his ****ery made Rock an even more obvious guy to cheer for.

                            Agreed about the stable success too. If we go by those standards, Evolution is the greatest group, ever.

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                            • nate1986
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1185

                              #2999
                              Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                              what killed wcw is what helped them rise to the top which is the nwo, but at the same time they were too afraid to make new stars and became too reliant on former wwe talent

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                              • nate1986
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 1185

                                #3000
                                Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by st0rmb11
                                I don't think they were afraid to make new talent. I just don't think they knew how.

                                Bischoff owed all of his success to stars that were already established when he took over. (Hogan, Nash, Hall, Luger, Savage from WWE - Sting & Flair from WCW).

                                They made Goldberg, but even that wouldn't have worked had it been someone other than Bill Goldberg. He just had a charisma and appeal about him that no one else could have duplicated.

                                Russo tried to make guys into stars, but it was far too late, and for every star he helped make, he had 1,000 ****ty storylines and gimmick matches that killed any interest that a new star may have garnered.
                                to be fair though Luger was a WCW/NWA guy before he went to WWE, it is amazing how Russo got WWE to the top but wrecked WCW kinda makes ya wonder

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