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The reasons WWE beat WCW are simple.
Austin, Rock, DX & WCW not making stars. I would say in about that order. I liked DX. But they were nowhere near Stonecold (in my opinion THE reason WWE won). Rocky was 2nd reason why.
Then Gillberg.
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Idk how you can say DX wasn't near SCSA. Vince gave those guys unlimited time on the mic. Doing dumb parodies that ended up being classics. DX was a huge reason to not turn the channel away from WWF. From when it was HBK/HHH to HHH/X/NAO, DX delivered every time they were on TV.
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Well, honestly its all an opinion. Many people would say the Rock was the biggest reason WWE won. Its all subjective.
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The Attitude Era was all about them fleshing out characters and giving them personalities. I feel like guys were allowed to express themselves more and were given mic time to do so. I don't see that at all these days.
If they think they're gonna be able to do that on the app or somewhere else that isn't cable tv, then they're sadly mistaken.Comment
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I'm with you. WWE did a much better job creating new stars than WCW. Also agree that Stone Cold and The Rock were the two leading the charge. And yes, DX was really over but I still don't think their overall impact was as great as some make it out to be. Triple H had to leave the group to go to the next level and the rest of the guys didn't do anything of note, so that hurts them historically, I think.Currently Playing:
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I'm with you. WWE did a much better job creating new stars than WCW. Also agree that Stone Cold and The Rock were the two leading the charge. And yes, DX was really over but I still don't think their overall impact was as great as some make it out to be. Triple H had to leave the group to go to the next level and the rest of the guys didn't do anything of note, so that hurts them historically, I think.
DX wasn't the biggest reason. But without DX, they might have lost too much ground before Austin won the belt. And without Triple H, I'm not so sure The Rock ever gets to that level of over that he got, because the Nation/DX feud is really what did it.Comment
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Triple H only left the group for 7 months, and then was the leader of the group for most of his initial run at the top (as heels, and minus Billy after he got hurt).
DX wasn't the biggest reason. But without DX, they might have lost too much ground before Austin won the belt. And without Triple H, I'm not so sure The Rock ever gets to that level of over that he got, because the Nation/DX feud is really what did it.
But yeah, to the overall convo, like I said before, DX is being both oversold and undersold in this thing. What they were doing was huge for the company and the industry at the time. They were pushing the edge and showing what could and couldn't be done at the time.
Also, trying to determine a groups success based on what the guys did after they left the group? That's pretty weak man. Most of those guys were pretty successful though. About as successful as most other groups/teams. Would we question the Hart Foundation because Bret is the only world champion to come out of it? How many world titles came out of the Four Horsemen that didn't belong to Ric Flair?Comment
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I don't know about that. Rock's feuds with Austin made him more than Triple H. Once Rock joined the Nation he was already getting himself over that's why he took over the Nation in the first place and that was before DX and the Nation started feuding. His run in the Corporation is what got him over as big as he eventually got plus his natural charisma and mic skills. Rock would have gotten over with or without Triple H. Though they're two career paths are still amazing to watch how they mirrored each other and they came up through the ranks almost at the same time.
But yeah, to the overall convo, like I said before, DX is being both oversold and undersold in this thing. What they were doing was huge for the company and the industry at the time. They were pushing the edge and showing what could and couldn't be done at the time.
Also, trying to determine a groups success based on what the guys did after they left the group? That's pretty weak man. Most of those guys were pretty successful though. About as successful as most other groups/teams. Would we question the Hart Foundation because Bret is the only world champion to come out of it? How many world titles came out of the Four Horsemen that didn't belong to Ric Flair?
Agreed about the corporation, too. He was starting to get cheered while he was a heel. Rock was gonna get himself over, but I think HHH always resorting to his ****ery made Rock an even more obvious guy to cheer for.
Agreed about the stable success too. If we go by those standards, Evolution is the greatest group, ever.
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Originally posted by st0rmb11I don't think they were afraid to make new talent. I just don't think they knew how.
Bischoff owed all of his success to stars that were already established when he took over. (Hogan, Nash, Hall, Luger, Savage from WWE - Sting & Flair from WCW).
They made Goldberg, but even that wouldn't have worked had it been someone other than Bill Goldberg. He just had a charisma and appeal about him that no one else could have duplicated.
Russo tried to make guys into stars, but it was far too late, and for every star he helped make, he had 1,000 ****ty storylines and gimmick matches that killed any interest that a new star may have garnered.Comment
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