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  • georgiafan
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    • Jul 2002
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    #46
    Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

    76ers Offseason Preview

    After the lottery the 76ers have picks 8 and 12 in the first round on top of the you have three early 2nd round picks in 34, 36 and 42. Before we dive into all the options as far as trading up goes lets take a look at the roster and see just how many spots are locked up. We will also look at how many spots in the rotation are even open for rookies.

    Point Guards
    Fultz
    McConell

    Wings
    Covington (a free agent, but the team has said he will get a new deal)
    Luwawu Cabarrot
    Justin Anderson

    Utility Player
    Ben Simmons

    Post
    Embiid
    Holmes
    Saric
    Okafor (option will be picked up)

    Under Contract potentially Traded
    Bayless
    Korkmaz

    Free Agents the team wants back
    J.J Reddick
    Walter Tavares

    FA not expected Back
    James Mcadoo
    Amir Johnson
    Stauskas

    So before we even get to the draft next year you see there is just no room for another big man on the roster. It's worth noting the team is high on the 7'3 Tavares upside as a rebounder and shot blocker. If a injury down low was to happen then Simmons can play PF and Saric or Holmes could play Center.

    The front office has said they want to give Covington 30 + minutes a game and find a way to move him into the starting lineup. They are two younger guys in TLC and Justin Anderson depending on how they progress that could make even more noise for playing time. Anderson was solid last year when Covington got hurt and should only get better.

    Fultz was 1st team all rookie this past year and keep in mind he was only 19 so the sky is still the limit for him. If Simmons starts at PG then Fultz will move over to the 2 guard. TJ isn't much of a scorer, but can hold his own as a backup PG. It's unclear if J.J Redick will be back, but its hard to imagine the team would not want his veteran leadership and shooting ability coming off the bench. A 2 year deal at around 6 million per year should be able to bring him back.

    So we have 10 guys not even counting Bayless or Korkmaz that will be back and at least 9 of those 10 are deserving of being in the rotation. The team will have some cap space also so you will want to save 2 spots for FA to be signed even if its smaller type moves for depth.

    So that gets us back to all these draft picks the 76ers have and how in the world do you use all of them. I think it is safe to say that some more depth could be added at SG / PG. If you look at the mock drafts the top 2 SG's Doncic and Mushidi will be gone before pick 8. They are a handful of others expected to go in that range like SG Rawle Akins, PG Duval and PG Sexton. If you take two Guards then its hard to imagine that J.J would want to come back and sit on the bench. It would also make Bayless who was a good deep threat and versatile combo guard last year with no chance to ever see the court.

    So do you just sit back at 8 take the best guard on the board and BPA at 12 ? Do you package the early 2nd rounders with 12 and go up and draft someone else. They are a alot of rebuilding teams in front of you that could use the extra young players like the Grizzles who now own picks 5 and 10 after the Gasol trade. This draft is also weak on overseas players with only 1 that shows potential.

    If we have learned one thing from this article it is that trades have to happen on draft day as the 76ers do not have room for 5 rookies on its roster
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    • trekfan
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      • Sep 2009
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      #47
      Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

      Originally posted by georgiafan
      76ers Offseason Preview

      After the lottery the 76ers have picks 8 and 12 in the first round on top of the you have three early 2nd round picks in 34, 36 and 42. Before we dive into all the options as far as trading up goes lets take a look at the roster and see just how many spots are locked up. We will also look at how many spots in the rotation are even open for rookies.

      Point Guards
      Fultz
      McConell

      Wings
      Covington (a free agent, but the team has said he will get a new deal)
      Luwawu Cabarrot
      Justin Anderson

      Utility Player
      Ben Simmons

      Post
      Embiid
      Holmes
      Saric
      Okafor (option will be picked up)

      Under Contract potentially Traded
      Bayless
      Korkmaz

      Free Agents the team wants back
      J.J Reddick
      Walter Tavares

      FA not expected Back
      James Mcadoo
      Amir Johnson
      Stauskas

      So before we even get to the draft next year you see there is just no room for another big man on the roster. It's worth noting the team is high on the 7'3 Tavares upside as a rebounder and shot blocker. If a injury down low was to happen then Simmons can play PF and Saric or Holmes could play Center.

      The front office has said they want to give Covington 30 + minutes a game and find a way to move him into the starting lineup. They are two younger guys in TLC and Justin Anderson depending on how they progress that could make even more noise for playing time. Anderson was solid last year when Covington got hurt and should only get better.

      Fultz was 1st team all rookie this past year and keep in mind he was only 19 so the sky is still the limit for him. If Simmons starts at PG then Fultz will move over to the 2 guard. TJ isn't much of a scorer, but can hold his own as a backup PG. It's unclear if J.J Redick will be back, but its hard to imagine the team would not want his veteran leadership and shooting ability coming off the bench. A 2 year deal at around 6 million per year should be able to bring him back.

      So we have 10 guys not even counting Bayless or Korkmaz that will be back and at least 9 of those 10 are deserving of being in the rotation. The team will have some cap space also so you will want to save 2 spots for FA to be signed even if its smaller type moves for depth.

      So that gets us back to all these draft picks the 76ers have and how in the world do you use all of them. I think it is safe to say that some more depth could be added at SG / PG. If you look at the mock drafts the top 2 SG's Doncic and Mushidi will be gone before pick 8. They are a handful of others expected to go in that range like SG Rawle Akins, PG Duval and PG Sexton. If you take two Guards then its hard to imagine that J.J would want to come back and sit on the bench. It would also make Bayless who was a good deep threat and versatile combo guard last year with no chance to ever see the court.

      So do you just sit back at 8 take the best guard on the board and BPA at 12 ? Do you package the early 2nd rounders with 12 and go up and draft someone else. They are a alot of rebuilding teams in front of you that could use the extra young players like the Grizzles who now own picks 5 and 10 after the Gasol trade. This draft is also weak on overseas players with only 1 that shows potential.

      If we have learned one thing from this article it is that trades have to happen on draft day as the 76ers do not have room for 5 rookies on its roster
      Gracious, you are LOADED with assets. I agree, trade up with one of your picks

      I would package the 8th overall, two early seconds, and Kormaz to the Bulls for 6th overall, if a shooting guard you want is still there. Chicago doesn't need a SG (they have Lavine) but they do need an SF -- Kormaz is plenty young enough and decent enough to be a rotation piece now and develop into a starter beside Lavine.

      It's a bit of a steep price to pay, granted, but the Bulls need a major rebuild. The more picks they have, the better, and they're not wagering anything in the future so they won't lose out on their own picks.
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      • Knickerbocker91
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        #48
        Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

        My only thing is I dont think Reddick will agree to that small of a deal. He took a $23M deal to come to Philly and granted it was a 1-year deal but I feel like he's looking in the $10-15M/year range. If anything that's my only fault with 2K, there seems to be no middle ground on contracts. The stars want absurd deals and then everyone else takes pennies on the dollar.

        Going to be interesting how Philly navigates the off-season though. They have the potential to run a deadly lineup of Fultz-Covington-Simmons-Saric-Embiid, not to mention whoever they end up drafting.
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        • georgiafan
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          • Jul 2002
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          #49
          Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

          Originally posted by trekfan
          Gracious, you are LOADED with assets. I agree, trade up with one of your picks

          I would package the 8th overall, two early seconds, and Kormaz to the Bulls for 6th overall, if a shooting guard you want is still there. Chicago doesn't need a SG (they have Lavine) but they do need an SF -- Kormaz is plenty young enough and decent enough to be a rotation piece now and develop into a starter beside Lavine.

          It's a bit of a steep price to pay, granted, but the Bulls need a major rebuild. The more picks they have, the better, and they're not wagering anything in the future so they won't lose out on their own picks.
          I like the thinking with trading up and giving away pieces I don’t really need. I think I have decided on doing something similiar to what you said.


          Originally posted by Knickerbocker91
          My only thing is I dont think Reddick will agree to that small of a deal. He took a $23M deal to come to Philly and granted it was a 1-year deal but I feel like he's looking in the $10-15M/year range. If anything that's my only fault with 2K, there seems to be no middle ground on contracts. The stars want absurd deals and then everyone else takes pennies on the dollar.

          Going to be interesting how Philly navigates the off-season though. They have the potential to run a deadly lineup of Fultz-Covington-Simmons-Saric-Embiid, not to mention whoever they end up drafting.
          When I did a test offseason run I think that’s what he asked for, but yea good point it would take a little more then that to get him back. I’ll be doing the FA contracts myself so I’ll look more into it afterthoughts draft. As I think I have made my mind up what to do I’m just trying to keep everything fair and real as it’s easy to cheese on trading up in the draft. I should have a decent amount of cap space
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          • Knickerbocker91
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            #50
            Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

            I hate you have to sacrifice the suspense of the off-season and draft to some degree because the CPU AI isn't smart.
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            • georgiafan
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              #51
              Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

              Originally posted by Knickerbocker91
              I hate you have to sacrifice the suspense of the off-season and draft to some degree because the CPU AI isn't smart.


              Yea while I love doing the 30 team control for the first Time part of me misses the suspense of crossing my fingers the guy I want drops to my pick

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              • georgiafan
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                • Jul 2002
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                #52
                Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                76ers 2018 Draft Recap

                Once again the Celtics and 76ers have made a big trade involving a top draft pick.

                Celtics Get
                Draft Rights to Mohamed Bamba (8th overall pick)

                76ers Get
                2019 Kings Draft Pick (top 1 protected)

                * If the Kings pick lands in the top 1 then 76ers would get the Grizzles pick if it lands 6, 7 or 8.

                * If the Kings pick lands in the top 1 and Grizzles pick is 9-14 the 76ers get either a lottery protected Clippers pick or a Celtics 1st in 2019 in addition to the Grizzles pick.

                * If the Kings and Grizzles picks both land from 5 to 9 whichever is the highest choice the 76ers get.

                * If the Kings, Celtics, Clippers and Grizzles picks all are 10 or lower then the 76ers get the 2 highest of those picks

                The Celtics went out in the 1st round of the playoffs this year and Bamba (76 ovr with A- potential) fills the need they have of rebounding and interior defense. The kings pick comes with some protections and will still likely still leave them with 3 first round picks next year. Bamba will step in right away and start at PF.

                We knew the 76ers had to make a move in the draft and didn't have a room for all the rookies to play meaningful minutes. The front office must have not fell in love with any of the guards as many expected them to trade up and take one. Still with the 12th pick and those 3 early 2nd's the night isn't over for the 76ers yet.



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                Colin Sexton
                Everyone knew one Guard was going to be drafted and that player ended up being PG Collin Sexton. While numerous conversations with other teams was had in the end the 76ers sit back and got the 2nd PG off the board. Our inside sources tell us Sexton and Duval had the same grade from the front office even though Duval may be more ready to play now. Sexton is 6'3 so he can play some 2 if need be and we expect him to jump T.J for the backup PG spot. His defense and outside shooting does need some work. He can finish at the rim and is a great athlete.


                Grayson Allen
                The 76ers ended up trading up a few spots with the Warriors and got a J.J Reddick clone in Grayson Allen. Even after the pick the front office said they still hope to bring J.J back so we will have to see how that unfolds. While being 23 may scare some teams off it is a good thing for the 76ers as It puts him around the same age as the stars on the team. While he may never start it gives a nice role player and shooter off the bench.

                Ian Paven
                With the last of the initial three 2nd round picks a international prospect was taken Ion Paven. He is a 6'8 246 pound SF who will spend 1 year overseas and some reports are out he may not have the upside they thought he did when he was drafted.


                ** Note **

                I hope the pick swap makes sense and is fair so if its not let me know and I can adjust it. I spent countless hours going over so eventually just had to do something and relax lol
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                • georgiafan
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                  #53
                  Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                  2018 Draft Picks - 1st Round
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                  • georgiafan
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                    #54
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                    • milldaddy35
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                      #55
                      Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                      I love the Sexton pick. He can fill it up.
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                      • georgiafan
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                        #56
                        Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                        Originally posted by milldaddy35
                        I love the Sexton pick. He can fill it up.
                        I played with him in summer league and he is going to be good. I was torn on him and Duval and I liked a little Duval better just not enough to move up to get him. Duval is a better shooter overall, but Sexton was rated better inside scoring. He is 6'3 can play the 2 guard if I want to play Ben or Fultz at PG. I am going to have a lot of depth so not sure how many minutes he will get as a rookie.
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                        • Jogo
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                          #57
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                          Great pick with Sexton! He is a joy to play with!
                          This Philly squad is going to be lethal the next few years ...

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                          • cgalligan
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                            #58
                            Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                            great job so far man, love the story line

                            keep up the good work
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                            • georgiafan
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                              #59
                              Re: 2k18 - 76ers "the process needs results"

                              Originally posted by Jogo
                              Great pick with Sexton! He is a joy to play with!
                              This Philly squad is going to be lethal the next few years ...
                              I am going to look forward to my 2nd unit playing this year bc him and some others. I know you have had good success with Sexton


                              Originally posted by cgalligan
                              great job so far man, love the story line

                              keep up the good work
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                              • georgiafan
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                                2018 FA Recap


                                The 76ers have re signed J.J Reddick to a 1 year 9.45 million deal in a bit of a surprise after drafting Greyson Allen who has a similar skill set. This deal didn't get done till the last day of free agent and a big factor in that was that no other teams expected to make the playoffs had the cap space to sign him. This will mean that J.J will tutor Allen for a year before likely moving on in the off season. As we expected Robert Covington signed back for a 3 year deal worth 46.4 Million.


                                Mike Scott the veteran stretch PF has also been signed to a 1 year minimum deal. The 7'3 Walter Tavares has signed a 2 way deal. Mike will not likely be on the active roster unless a injury happens, but the front office has believed to be high on him. The signing of Scott makes 16 players on the roster so another move will have to be made before the season starts.

                                With so few teams having cap space it pretty much forced the star players hands to go back to the previous teams. It made for a quite offseason below are some of the big moves.

                                New Teams
                                Greg Monroe - 1 year deal to Lakers (10 mill)
                                Mike James - 1 year deal to Knicks (4 mill)
                                Bojan Bogdonvich - 2 year deal to Pelicans (11.02)
                                Nikolo Mirotic - 2 year deal to Nets (8.57)
                                Brook Lopez - 3 year deal to Suns (50.8)
                                KCP - 3 year deal to Pacers (69 mill)
                                Will Barton - 1 year deal to Mavs (8.9 mill)
                                Paul George - to Lakers (forgot to write down $)
                                Dante Exum - 1 year deal Pacers (4 million)
                                Alex Len - 2 year deal to Nets (8 million)

                                Re-signed
                                Tyrke Evans - 1 year to Grizzles (20.00 mill )
                                Seth Curry - 2 year deal to Mavs (7.42 mill)
                                Nerlens Noel - 2 year deal to Mavs (30.4 mill)
                                Marcus Smart - 3 year deal to Celtics (25.9 mill)
                                Carmelo Anthony - Thunder
                                Deandre Jordan - Clippers
                                Kevin Durant - Warriors

                                FA's Unsigned (wanting a crazy amount of $)
                                PG Wade Baldwin
                                PG Derrick Rose
                                SG Austin Rivers
                                PF Chris Bosh
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