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  • KBLover
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2009
    • 12172

    #226
    Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

    Week 12 - Midweek News

    NCAA Football News:
    MLB John Lugo suspended for the second time this season for kicking a Boston College fullback.

    Raiders and Chiefs are on the menu for Thanksgiving this year.

    Colts OLB Dwight Freeney is done for the year after tearing his pectoral muscles and placed on IR. He will need 6 months to recover.

    Ravens DE Haloti Ngata will miss the rest of the season with a fractured shoulder blade. He was placed on IR today.

    Raiders WR Corey McCants suffered an injury (broken jaw) and will be out 3 weeks.

    Awards:
    NFC DPoW: Seattle DE Chris Clemmons
    AFC DPoW: Oakland CB Shaquille Carillon
    NFC OPoW: Carolina HB Chris Ivory
    AFC OPoW: Jacksonville HB Maurice Jones-Drew

    Raiders' pass rush was on fire, downing Newton 6 times.

    Maurice Jones-Drew picked up 2 TDs in a 41-30 win over the Titans.

    Jacoby Ford is expected to be active for this week's game.

    The 49ers run at perfection ends at 9 as the team lost to the Seahawks 33-24. Marshawn Lynch piled up 141 yards and a TD in the game.


    Raiders News

    Scouting:

    The team took a look at LT Wade Gasper, who's been in the news recently. While he's not a bad looking prospect, good blocking technique and willing to stand and fight in the trenches, he doesn't impress scouts any more than Ciante Price, whom the team could likely get in a lower round...and lower salary slot...

    WR Alex Givens piqued the teams interest on tape. With D'Andre Ware and Corey McCants being disappointing, the team started looking a bit at the wide receivers. Alex is a big target, 6' 4", 242 lbs, and moves well for his size. He isn't afraid to use his body to make the tough catch, but the team will want more information on him.

    FS DaVonte Chapelle is looking more and more interesting as the weeks go on. The combination of speed and power tackling along with decent coverage has the team considering him more highly, but that lack of awareness as some in the organization still arguing against him, even though Bracey, the team's current starter at FS, is much the same way.


    Progression

    DE Lamarr Houston:
    Appears to have developed a game-ready bull rush move.

    MLB Rolando McClain
    Consistency: 2 to 3

    DT Vince Wilfork
    POW: 73 to 75
    FMV: 48 to 49

    FB/TE Marcel Reece
    CAR: 81 to 83

    RG Cale Welch
    PBK: 88 to 89

    LB Tanner Bailey
    MCV: 61 to 62
    PRC: 85 to 86

    DE Quinterrius Fields
    PRC: 69 to 72

    CB Shaquille Carillon
    PRC: 79 to 81

    LG Aaryn DePriest
    PBK: 77 to 79
    "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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    • KBLover
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 12172

      #227
      Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

      Originally posted by preaceps
      Nice win, close and a surprise from a 1-8 Panthers team. Are you sure Newton wasn't concussed and thinking Carillon was a Panther?
      Haha! Either that or he was mad he couldn't run so he just threw the ball anyway.

      They put up a heck of a fight - would have likely won if Newton didn't throw the game away.
      "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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      • BraedenG33
        Banned
        • Dec 2012
        • 999

        #228
        Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

        Great series you should keep it going until the day of M14's release.

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        • KBLover
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2009
          • 12172

          #229
          Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

          Back-to-Back OT Victories
          Pryor Injured, Run Game Takes Over as
          Raiders Outlast Hot Cassel, Chiefs 36-30


          Raiders faced an injury to Pryor early in the game and on top of that, the opposing QB, Matt Cassel came out firing bullets like he was Joe Montana in a Chiefs uniform. The pass coverage had no answers, and Dwayne Bowe was the big recipient all day long.

          "It didn't matter what I called in the huddle, " McClain commented, "They were just picking us apart and figuring out anything we tried to disguise. It was rough, but I guess we did enough."

          In the first half, Cassel was as high as 93% completion percentage, and was finding the deep ball as well as the shorter completions. Bowe had 2 TDs and Jeremy Shockey racked up 128 yards.

          On the Raiders side, Josh Johnson made a good throw to Randall Cobb for a TD, but he didn't find much success, but also avoided a turnover. Otherwise, Lyle turned to the running game, primarily Caulder.

          He responded in a big way. Caulder had trouble early on getting rhythm, but his patience paid as the Raiders kept trying different runs to find a weakness. He did, and the Chiefs would see more than enough of the young power back.

          In all, Caulder carried the rock 42 times. The yards were tough yards as he managed just 3.9 yards per carry, but netted 3 TDs, including the game winning TD in overtime.

          Steven Grant got some work as well and benefited from Caulder's pounding attack. Grant's 14 carries compiled 91 yards.

          "We worked well together. They let Julio [Caulder] do the heavy lifting and I just made them wear down more trying to chase me around. I was hoping they'd let me run it in from the one yard line in OT. Man, I was mad at myself for not being able to get it across, " Grant smiled, "But I can see why they rewarded him with the game winner. He deserved it."

          Josh Johnson picked up some key first downs in that overtime drive, one that spanned 13 plays and 79 yards, most of which came on the ground. Johnson ran 3 times in overtime, each run adding a first down.

          Defensively, the Raiders did shut down Jamaal Charles. The speedy halfback had nowhere to go all day long, gaining just 30 yards on 22 carries and losing a fumble. Brandon Madison caused the fumble, which is unusual as he's not known for his hitting power. The rookie is starting to get some love in the locker room for his turnover generating lately.

          Other than that, it was basically the Rolando McClain show. He picked up 15 tackles. No other Raider had more than 6.

          Of the receiving yards that were gained, Moore had 94 of them to lead the way on six receptions. Cobb had just 37 yards, but the lone passing TD. Reece had just 23 yards, but each of those also converted first downs and kept the Chiefs a little apprehensive to run blitz too often.

          Despite the adversity facing the offense, the Raiders committed no turnovers. The Chiefs allowed just one, which the Raiders turned into Caulder's first rushing TD, a walk-in score from 6 yards out.

          The win ensured sole possession of 1st place in the AFC West and moved the team to 8-3.

          Box Score:
          Oakland Raiders at Kansas City Chiefs
          Jan 1, 1ST2ND3RD4THOTSCORE
          Oakland Raiders (7-3)710310636
          Kansas City Chiefs (6-4)310710030
          Team Stats Comparison
          OAKKAN
          Total Offense435469
          Rushing Yards27838
          Passing Yards157431
          First Downs2517
          Punt Return Yards2015
          Kick Return Yards16276
          Total Yards617560
          Turnovers01
          3rd Down Converstion7-18 (38%)4-13 (30%)
          4th Down Conversion1-10-0
          2-Point Conversion0-00-0
          Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals4/1 (100%)1/2 (100%)
          Penalties
          Posession Time42:2825:54
          Oakland Raiders
          PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
          Josh Johnson12/28 (42%)11510
          Terrelle Pryor3/4 (75%)4200
          RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
          Julio Caulder421623.93
          Steven Grant14916.50
          Josh Johnson4256.30
          RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
          Denarius Moore69415.70
          Randall Cobb4379.31
          Marcel Reece3237.70
          DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
          Rolando McClain15000
          Mike Mitchell6000
          Jake Olsen (1 FR)5000
          Shaquille Carillon5000
          Brandon Madison (1 FF)2000
          KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
          Sebastian Janikowski3/355
          PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
          Shane Lechler727238.91
          Kansas City Chiefs
          PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
          Matt Cassel (2 sacks)23/34 (67%)44730
          RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
          Jamaal Charles22301.40
          RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
          Jeremy Shockey912814.20
          Dwayne Bowe716123.02
          Johnaton Baldwin510821.60
          DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
          Eric Berry11000
          Kendrick Lewis8000
          Derrick Johnson7000
          Brandon Flowers7000
          Moise Fokou (1 FF)5000
          KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
          Ryan Succop3/347
          PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
          Dustin Colquitt627445.72


          Notes:
          Rolando McClain passed the 100 tackle mark on the season...he stands at 115 tackles...Only one other Raider has more than 50 tackles (Tyvon Branch, 51)...

          Injury News:
          QB Terrelle Pryor will be out for the next 5 weeks with a broken jaw. No word on how the team will handle the situation just yet...

          DT Vince Wilfork will miss the next 3 weeks, also with a broken jaw.

          (Pryor was injured with just 2 QBs on the roster, but had Lechler as QB #3...)
          "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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          • JaymeeAwesome
            Dynasty Guru
            • Jan 2005
            • 4152

            #230
            Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

            Interested in seeing your season stats. Especially at Caulder....

            Also, can the viewers choose which QB you're going to pick up in Free Agents?
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            • BraedenG33
              Banned
              • Dec 2012
              • 999

              #231
              Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

              Originally posted by jaymee13
              Interested in seeing your season stats. Especially at Caulder....

              Also, can the viewers choose which QB you're going to pick up in Free Agents?
              YEah we should, you should put out a list of the free agent QBs and there ratings and let us vote. (maybe do an online poll).

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              • tdawg3782
                I hate you Norv
                • Nov 2003
                • 4803

                #232
                Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

                Originally posted by BraedenG33
                YEah we should, you should put out a list of the free agent QBs and there ratings and let us vote. (maybe do an online poll).
                I third this. I wanna vote.

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                • KBLover
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 12172

                  #233
                  Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

                  Originally posted by jaymee13
                  Interested in seeing your season stats. Especially at Caulder....

                  Also, can the viewers choose which QB you're going to pick up in Free Agents?
                  Caulder's numbers aren't too impressive since he's been hurt for some time.

                  Passing:
                  Pryor: 161/348, 46%, 2,027 yds, 14 TD, 12 INT, 63.6 QBR

                  Rushing:
                  Caulder: 166 att, 650 yds, 3.9 y/a, 5 TD
                  Grant: 114 att, 688 yds, 6.0 y/a, 3 TD
                  Ridley: 89 att, 344 yds, 3.8 y/a, 0 TD
                  Pryor: 18 att, 95 yds, 5.3 y/a, 0 TD

                  Receiving:
                  Cobb: 40 rec, 568 yds, 14.2 y/r, 5 TD
                  McCants: 38 rec, 499 yds, 13.1 y/r, 1 TD
                  Moore: 29 rec, 349 yds, 12.0 y/r, 0 TD
                  Ware: 19 rec, 210 yds, 11.1 y/r, 0 TD
                  Moeaki: 15 rec, 234 yds, 15.6 y/r, 3 TD

                  Blocking:
                  LT Veldheer: 6 pcake, 2 sacks
                  LG DePriest: 19 pcake, 0 sacks
                  C Wisniewski: 9 pcake, 1 sack
                  RG Welch: 21 pcake, 2 sacks
                  RT Otah: 11 pcake, 7 sacks

                  Defensive:
                  LB McClain: 113 tak, 13 TFL, 2 Sacks, 1 INT, 6 FF, 2 FR, 0 TD
                  SS Branch: 55 tak, 3 TFL, 0 sacks, 3 INT, 2 FF, 0 FR, 0 TD
                  LB Ash: 49 tak, 14 TFL, 5 sacks, 0 INT, 0 FF, 0 FR, 0 TD
                  LB Bailey: 46 tak, 17 TFL, 6 sacks, 0 INT, 0 FF, 0 FR, 0 TD
                  LB Olsen: 41 tak, 8 TFL, 0 Sacks, 0 INT, 1 FF, 1 FR, 0 TD
                  CB Carillon: 40 tak, 4 TFL, 0 sacks, 2 INT, 0 FF, 0 FR, 1 TD
                  DE Houston: 32 tak, 16 TFL, 11 sacks, 0 INT, 0 FF, 1 FR, 1 TD
                  FS Bracey: 28 tak, 1 TFL, 0 sacks, 2 INT, 1 FF, 3 FR, 0 TD
                  LB Worilds: 24 tak, 8 TFL, 5 sacks, 0 INT, 0 FF, 0 FR, 0 TD
                  CB Madison: 21 tak, 1 TFL, 0 Sack, 2 INT, 2 FF, 0 FR, 1 TD

                  Kicking:
                  Janikowski: 30/32, 93%, 58 yd Long

                  Punting:
                  Lechler: 59 punts, 2,628 yds, 44.5 avg, 2,239 net, 37.9 net avg, 17 In20, 12 TB, 74 yd Long


                  As far as QB, here's the situation:
                  (Ratings listed as: THP/SAC/MAC/DAC/RUN/PAC/AWR/SPD)

                  Starter:
                  Terrelle Pryor: 91/77/78/75/81/61/66/90 (out for 5 weeks)

                  Backup:
                  Josh Johnson: 89/75/72/68/78/41/64/88

                  FAs:
                  Matt Hasselbeck: 83/83/72/65/72/84/88/67
                  Donovan McNabb: 90/66/73/73/74/82/79/74
                  Colt McCoy: 81/84/75/62/80/59/72/74
                  Derek Anderson: 95/74/71/74/75/64/68/56
                  Blaine Gabbert: 90/82/74/69/76/68/66/75
                  Troy Smith: 87/74/71/68/81/57/65/83
                  Matt Moore: 84/80/71/76/74/66/72/69
                  David Carr: 87/70/72/72/76/60/71/67
                  Byron Leftwich: 93/78/73/68/74/80/72/54
                  Shaun Hill: 79/88/79/65/74/61/78/69
                  Mike Kafka: 84/86/74/59/74/80/65/63
                  Brian Hoyer: 87/77/72/64/78/64/74/65
                  Matt Leinart: 83/80/81/64/75/79/69/54
                  Rex Grossman: 90/80/75/74/75/61/75/60

                  It's not pretty...
                  "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                  • tdawg3782
                    I hate you Norv
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 4803

                    #234
                    Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

                    Originally posted by KBLover
                    As far as QB, here's the situation:
                    (Ratings listed as: THP/SAC/MAC/DAC/RUN/PAC/AWR/SPD)

                    Starter:
                    Terrelle Pryor: 91/77/78/75/81/61/66/90 (out for 5 weeks)

                    Backup:
                    Josh Johnson: 89/75/72/68/78/41/64/88

                    FAs:
                    Matt Hasselbeck: 83/83/72/65/72/84/88/67
                    Donovan McNabb: 90/66/73/73/74/82/79/74
                    Colt McCoy: 81/84/75/62/80/59/72/74
                    Derek Anderson: 95/74/71/74/75/64/68/56
                    Blaine Gabbert: 90/82/74/69/76/68/66/75
                    Troy Smith: 87/74/71/68/81/57/65/83

                    Matt Moore: 84/80/71/76/74/66/72/69
                    David Carr: 87/70/72/72/76/60/71/67
                    Byron Leftwich: 93/78/73/68/74/80/72/54
                    Shaun Hill: 79/88/79/65/74/61/78/69
                    Mike Kafka: 84/86/74/59/74/80/65/63
                    Brian Hoyer: 87/77/72/64/78/64/74/65
                    Matt Leinart: 83/80/81/64/75/79/69/54
                    Rex Grossman: 90/80/75/74/75/61/75/60

                    It's not pretty...
                    That is rough. Those 3 seem to be your best bet with what you like to run on offense with Gabbert maybe having the edge by just a bit. Just typing that sentence shows you how bad it is lol. None are much better then Johnson and being from San Diego I say give the kid the short tell Pryor comes back. Injuries are killer in this game.

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                    • BraedenG33
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 999

                      #235
                      Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

                      Originally posted by KBLover
                      Caulder's numbers aren't too impressive since he's been hurt for some time.

                      Passing:
                      Pryor: 161/348, 46%, 2,027 yds, 14 TD, 12 INT, 63.6 QBR

                      Rushing:
                      Caulder: 166 att, 650 yds, 3.9 y/a, 5 TD
                      Grant: 114 att, 688 yds, 6.0 y/a, 3 TD
                      Ridley: 89 att, 344 yds, 3.8 y/a, 0 TD
                      Pryor: 18 att, 95 yds, 5.3 y/a, 0 TD

                      Receiving:
                      Cobb: 40 rec, 568 yds, 14.2 y/r, 5 TD
                      McCants: 38 rec, 499 yds, 13.1 y/r, 1 TD
                      Moore: 29 rec, 349 yds, 12.0 y/r, 0 TD
                      Ware: 19 rec, 210 yds, 11.1 y/r, 0 TD
                      Moeaki: 15 rec, 234 yds, 15.6 y/r, 3 TD

                      Blocking:
                      LT Veldheer: 6 pcake, 2 sacks
                      LG DePriest: 19 pcake, 0 sacks
                      C Wisniewski: 9 pcake, 1 sack
                      RG Welch: 21 pcake, 2 sacks
                      RT Otah: 11 pcake, 7 sacks

                      Defensive:
                      LB McClain: 113 tak, 13 TFL, 2 Sacks, 1 INT, 6 FF, 2 FR, 0 TD
                      SS Branch: 55 tak, 3 TFL, 0 sacks, 3 INT, 2 FF, 0 FR, 0 TD
                      LB Ash: 49 tak, 14 TFL, 5 sacks, 0 INT, 0 FF, 0 FR, 0 TD
                      LB Bailey: 46 tak, 17 TFL, 6 sacks, 0 INT, 0 FF, 0 FR, 0 TD
                      LB Olsen: 41 tak, 8 TFL, 0 Sacks, 0 INT, 1 FF, 1 FR, 0 TD
                      CB Carillon: 40 tak, 4 TFL, 0 sacks, 2 INT, 0 FF, 0 FR, 1 TD
                      DE Houston: 32 tak, 16 TFL, 11 sacks, 0 INT, 0 FF, 1 FR, 1 TD
                      FS Bracey: 28 tak, 1 TFL, 0 sacks, 2 INT, 1 FF, 3 FR, 0 TD
                      LB Worilds: 24 tak, 8 TFL, 5 sacks, 0 INT, 0 FF, 0 FR, 0 TD
                      CB Madison: 21 tak, 1 TFL, 0 Sack, 2 INT, 2 FF, 0 FR, 1 TD

                      Kicking:
                      Janikowski: 30/32, 93%, 58 yd Long

                      Punting:
                      Lechler: 59 punts, 2,628 yds, 44.5 avg, 2,239 net, 37.9 net avg, 17 In20, 12 TB, 74 yd Long


                      As far as QB, here's the situation:
                      (Ratings listed as: THP/SAC/MAC/DAC/RUN/PAC/AWR/SPD)

                      Starter:
                      Terrelle Pryor: 91/77/78/75/81/61/66/90 (out for 5 weeks)

                      Backup:
                      Josh Johnson: 89/75/72/68/78/41/64/88

                      FAs:
                      Matt Hasselbeck: 83/83/72/65/72/84/88/67
                      Donovan McNabb: 90/66/73/73/74/82/79/74
                      Colt McCoy: 81/84/75/62/80/59/72/74
                      Derek Anderson: 95/74/71/74/75/64/68/56
                      Blaine Gabbert: 90/82/74/69/76/68/66/75
                      Troy Smith: 87/74/71/68/81/57/65/83
                      Matt Moore: 84/80/71/76/74/66/72/69
                      David Carr: 87/70/72/72/76/60/71/67
                      Byron Leftwich: 93/78/73/68/74/80/72/54
                      Shaun Hill: 79/88/79/65/74/61/78/69
                      Mike Kafka: 84/86/74/59/74/80/65/63
                      Brian Hoyer: 87/77/72/64/78/64/74/65
                      Matt Leinart: 83/80/81/64/75/79/69/54
                      Rex Grossman: 90/80/75/74/75/61/75/60

                      It's not pretty...
                      My top 5 guys are highlighted above in the quote. Gabbert has all the tools to be successful in your system but he also has low awareness and deep accuracy.
                      My personal favorite is Colt McCoy because he is mobile and has good TOR ratings, although the lack of deep throw ability is concerning. Im a New England fan so Hoyer would just be cool to read about in this since he is a former patriot. Matt Moore and David Carr are a decent stopgap game managers until the draft. so, in order:

                      1:Colt McCoy
                      2:Blaine Gabbert
                      3:Brian Hoyer
                      4: Matt Moore
                      5: David Carr

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                      • BraedenG33
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 999

                        #236
                        Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

                        Wasn't Matt Ryan a Free Agent at one point? What happened to him where did he go?

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                        • KBLover
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 12172

                          #237
                          Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

                          Originally posted by BraedenG33
                          Wasn't Matt Ryan a Free Agent at one point? What happened to him where did he go?
                          He signed in the preseason with Jacksonville.
                          "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                          • JHeyBraves
                            Pro
                            • May 2011
                            • 895

                            #238
                            Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

                            Love Cobb on your team. He and Moore are a cool duo.

                            McClain on the way to another huge season.

                            Grant needs more carries. 6 YPC? He's gotta get some more love.

                            Rex looks like he might be capable of doing the job. Suggesting him to anyone feels wrong. That list is awful.
                            The Lions Den | JHB's Detroit Lions

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                            • KBLover
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 12172

                              #239
                              Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

                              Originally posted by JHeyBraves
                              Love Cobb on your team. He and Moore are a cool duo.

                              McClain on the way to another huge season.

                              Grant needs more carries. 6 YPC? He's gotta get some more love.

                              Rex looks like he might be capable of doing the job. Suggesting him to anyone feels wrong. That list is awful.

                              Cobb is awesome. So glad I took him off the street. He's been big and will definitely make a strong offer to him to re-sign him after the season.

                              McClain - yep, another nice year in the making. Which I could figure out how to get him some more sacks.

                              What's funny is Grant's gonna get the 25,000 XP after the season for his whopping goal of 600 yards. With that, he'll probably be the best back on the team. I wonder how Grant would do without Caulder softening up the D. Might have to find out...

                              LOL yeah, it's horrible. If it wasn't after the deadline, I'd pay blood for some kid like Terry Carter (even though he can't move) or something. Teams are just hording QBs. Jets (who have Carter) have four QBs, for example. The Panthers just have one on the roster. FA pool so bad, they don't want another one!
                              "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                              • preaceps
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 248

                                #240
                                Re: Rebuilding the Fear - Oakland Raiders M13 CCM

                                Agree mostly with braeden, just different order.

                                I think

                                Carr
                                Gabbart
                                Moore
                                McCoy
                                Hoyer

                                Depends on how you play your QB, cant tell just by stats. If you will scramble for time and still pass Carr is a bit better cus of his better RUN. But if once you tuck then your off Gabbart is more your man. Also need to see ACC, some fast QBs start off like a mac truck they have so low ACC.

                                Moore is your most rounded though. Being about mid option in all categories, but limits how effective play action may be.

                                Cobb seems like a decent filler, still would jump at a solid #2 though. I would like him more as a slot personally.

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