Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[ZB9]

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I can see FSU leaving for the SEC if that ever becomes an option, still don't think they will leave for the Big 12.

I doubt Florida would go for that

nor would Georgia

[ZB9]

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Is the Big 12 really much better than the ACC?

in football?

yes on the field the big 12 has been better than the ACC overall recently

[superjames1992]

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The U is apparently considering the Big 12... Is the Big 12 really much better than the ACC?

Money talks. Plus, if FSU and Clemson leave, the ACC might be up the ****ter, so Miami wants to get out before the ship sinks, so to speak. That ACC ship is unlikely to actually sink, but it will be wounded and won't be what it once was if the aforementioned happens.

[Maxattax3]

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The U is apparently considering the Big 12... Is the Big 12 really much better than the ACC?

17m in the ACC, or possibly approaching 30m in the Big12. Hmmm...

Edit: That said, the Big12 should look carefully at Miami. They might have some tough penalties coming down the pipe and the Big12 wouldnt want a SMU type situation happening.

[TDenverFan]

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UTA is heading to the Sun Belt, according to Twitter, so bye bye WAC.

[TDenverFan]

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If the WAC does break up, would Boise and SDST go back to the MWC? Removing them from the equation, here's a team by team comparison.

Football Only:

Air Force > UL
Colorado State < Rutgers
New Mexico > Memphis
UNLV < UCF
Wyoming > Temple
Fresno State > UC
Nevada < Rutgers
Hawai'i > UCONN
San Jose State < SMU
Utah State < Houston

BE also has Navy.

However, if you look at the benefits Boise and SDSU receive for non-Football sports, I think the MWC makes more sense. Boise will be homeless for Basketball, and SDSU will be in the mediocre Big West.

[dickey1331]

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If the WAC does break up, would Boise and SDST go back to the MWC? Removing them from the equation, here's a team by team comparison.

Football Only:

Air Force > UL
Colorado State < Rutgers
New Mexico > Memphis
UNLV < UCF
Wyoming > Temple
Fresno State > UC
Nevada < Rutgers
Hawai'i > UCONN
San Jose State < SMU
Utah State < Houston

BE also has Navy.

However, if you look at the benefits Boise and SDSU receive for non-Football sports, I think the MWC makes more sense. Boise will be homeless for Basketball, and SDSU will be in the mediocre Big West.

I think it was last week that Boise said they wont go back to the MWC. They are looking at the Big West (with the help from SDSU) for all other sports.

[TDenverFan]

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I think it was last week that Boise said they wont go back to the MWC. They are looking at the Big West (with the help from SDSU) for all other sports.

I forgot about that. Still, Boise jumps around enough I don't know if that metters.

[DonkeyJote]

If the WAC does break up, would Boise and SDST go back to the MWC? Removing them from the equation, here's a team by team comparison.

Football Only:

Air Force > UL
Colorado State < Rutgers
New Mexico > Memphis
UNLV < UCF
Wyoming > Temple
Fresno State > UC
Nevada < Rutgers
Hawai'i > UCONN
San Jose State < SMU
Utah State < Houston

BE also has Navy.

However, if you look at the benefits Boise and SDSU receive for non-Football sports, I think the MWC makes more sense. Boise will be homeless for Basketball, and SDSU will be in the mediocre Big West.

I'd disagree with you on a few of those. Air Force isn't as good of a program as Louisville, New Mexico and Memphis is a push, and I'd take UConn over Hawaii.

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[Hooe]

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I'm afraid all those other reasons don't matter so much for conference alignment. Schools don't partner for academics based on conference alignment, and academic prestige doesn't add dollars to the athletic department.

I mean, if we want to bring money into it, UVa has the 20th largest endowment of all high-level learning institutions in the country; a brand-new HUGE multipurpose arena (the John Paul Jones Arena), a solid and large college football stadium (Scott Stadium's capacity - 61,500 - is one of the largest in the ACC, equal to Soldier Field, and larger than University of Phoenix Stadium); the athletic department is in the process of building a $13M indoor practice facility for the football team; and UVa is one of the few athletic programs in the NCAA to turn a profit, and actually was the most profitable athletic program in the ACC during FY 2010-11. The state of football program at Virginia, though improving, simply does not matter as to their viability for inclusion in a new conference.

To reiterate, though I'm not worried about what will happen to Virginia, I'd rather have them in a viable ACC than elsewhere. I like the ACC.

[Tovarich]

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I've heard from a few people that Georgia Tech to the Big 12 is getting to be a pretty serious possibility. I'm starting to think the ACC is going to get gutted like we thought the Big 12 would last year. Consolidation is coming.

[dickey1331]

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So the new ACC will be the old Big East and the new Big East will be the old CUSA.

[Maxattax3]

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I mean, if we want to bring money into it, UVa has the 20th largest endowment of all high-level learning institutions in the country; a brand-new HUGE multipurpose arena (the John Paul Jones Arena), a solid and large college football stadium (Scott Stadium's capacity - 61,500 - is one of the largest in the ACC, equal to Soldier Field, and larger than University of Phoenix Stadium); the athletic department is in the process of building a $13M indoor practice facility for the football team; and UVa is one of the few athletic programs in the NCAA to turn a profit, and actually was the most profitable athletic program in the ACC during FY 2010-11. The state of football program at Virginia, though improving, simply does not matter as to their viability for inclusion in a new conference.

To reiterate, though I'm not worried about what will happen to Virginia, I'd rather have them in a viable ACC than elsewhere. I like the ACC.

Its TV money that matters.

[lonewolf371]

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I mean, if we want to bring money into it, UVa has the 20th largest endowment of all high-level learning institutions in the country; a brand-new HUGE multipurpose arena (the John Paul Jones Arena), a solid and large college football stadium (Scott Stadium's capacity - 61,500 - is one of the largest in the ACC, equal to Soldier Field, and larger than University of Phoenix Stadium); the athletic department is in the process of building a $13M indoor practice facility for the football team; and UVa is one of the few athletic programs in the NCAA to turn a profit, and actually was the most profitable athletic program in the ACC during FY 2010-11. The state of football program at Virginia, though improving, simply does not matter as to their viability for inclusion in a new conference.

To reiterate, though I'm not worried about what will happen to Virginia, I'd rather have them in a viable ACC than elsewhere. I like the ACC.

Well the endowment doesn't matter so much for conference alignment. I don't think any conferences share endowment funds.

As for revenue, yeah UVa would manage to be around the middle of the Big Ten, which is more than almost any other school in the ACC.

[T-Moar]

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So the new ACC will be the old Big East and the new Big East will be the old CUSA.

Let's not forget the Old WAC becoming the MWC and the new WAC being the old Big West.