Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[LionsFanNJ]

Isn't all the B1G schools AAU universities? I know Rutgers is one, but I don't know anything about Maryland.

[p_rushing]

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Put it this way, losing Maryland doesn't hurt the ACC one bit.

You lose the DC market. Adding UCONN gets you nothing in football. Adding UofL gets you the potential to have another top 20 team.

FSU needs to just leave now.

[Psyblast]

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Rumor is Maryland and Rutgers to the Leaders Division and Illinois moving to the Legends.

Great job, B1G. Opportunity arises to correct the laughable joke of having Michigan and Ohio State in different divisions, and of course you don't fix it.

This conference is an embarrassment and a sham, and Delaney should be strapped to a rocket and fired into the sun.

[Hooe]

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You lose the DC market. Adding UCONN gets you nothing in football. Adding UofL gets you the potential to have another top 20 team.

FSU needs to just leave now.

This implies that Maryland actually brought the DC market any more so than UVa and/or Virginia Tech (in fact it's the Hokies, not Maryland, who routinely host out-of-conference games at FedExField). DC, like Atlanta, is a pro sports town, and what college athletics interest that exists there is going to be homogenized (particularly in basketball) between UVa, VT, Maryland, Mason, GW, VCU, American, Liberty, and so on. Given that and the waning interest in Maryland athletics based on football attendance, I don't think Maryland's departure forfeits DC.

As to FSU leaving, where would FSU go? They aren't going to the SEC for historic reasons within that conference. I doubt they'd like the politics any better in the Texas and Friends conference (which I don't understand how they are in any better shape than the ACC). Going to the Big 14 or Pac 12 doesn't make geographic sense and the travel costs would be prohibitive. This is all before the $50M buyout.

I don't think FSU is going anywhere, just like I don't think the ACC is going anywhere.

[cjonesfan921]

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Rumor is Maryland and Rutgers to the Leaders Division and Illinois moving to the Legends.

Great job, B1G. Opportunity arises to correct the laughable joke of having Michigan and Ohio State in different divisions, and of course you don't fix it.

This conference is an embarrassment and a sham, and Delaney should be strapped to a rocket and fired into the sun.

The allure of having a OSU/UM Conf Champ game is too much for them to turn down.

What's the set up like? Play everyone in your division then 2-3 from the other?

[simgamer0005]

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The allure of having a OSU/UM Conf Champ game is too much for them to turn down.

What's the set up like? Play everyone in your division then 2-3 from the other

like Delany and his henchmen thought it through...details aren't exactly Delany's strong suit. i think it's more like grab the money, ask questions later. or use christmas break to let it sink in, and hope people will forget about a 90%+ disapproval rating...

[p_rushing]

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This implies that Maryland actually brought the DC market any more so than UVa and/or Virginia Tech (in fact it's the Hokies, not Maryland, who routinely host out-of-conference games at FedExField). DC, like Atlanta, is a pro sports town, and what college athletics interest that exists there is going to be homogenized (particularly in basketball) between UVa, VT, Maryland, Mason, GW, VCU, American, Liberty, and so on. Given that and the waning interest in Maryland athletics based on football attendance, I don't think Maryland's departure forfeits DC.

The DC market is important, UMD is not important. While UMD may not have many fans, it allows the DC market to show other ACC games. Those games may no longer be on TV now. Now B1G games will be on. Markets is why UMD has somewhere else to go, nothing to do with their sport teams.

[caasoccer]

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so there is money for $50 million exit fees, but no money for giving the players a stipend?

[caasoccer]

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Rumor is Maryland and Rutgers to the Leaders Division and Illinois moving to the Legends.

Great job, B1G. Opportunity arises to correct the laughable joke of having Michigan and Ohio State in different divisions, and of course you don't fix it.

This conference is an embarrassment and a sham, and Delaney should be strapped to a rocket and fired into the sun.

they want a UM/OSU championship game that is why.

[gopher_guy]

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Rumor is Maryland and Rutgers to the Leaders Division and Illinois moving to the Legends.

Great job, B1G. Opportunity arises to correct the laughable joke of having Michigan and Ohio State in different divisions, and of course you don't fix it.

This conference is an embarrassment and a sham, and Delaney should be strapped to a rocket and fired into the sun.

What's wrong with having OSU and Michigan in different divisions (As long as they play every year)?

[superjames1992]

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Maryland isn't going to pay the $50 million exit fee. The final settlement will be much, much less I'm sure. Let's also remember that they and Florida State voted against the exit fee increase a few months ago.

IIRC, WVU paid around $5 million of the original $20 million exit fee (maybe I don't remember right, but I believe that was it).

Plus, Mr. Under Armour himself may be willing to give some extensive donations to the school, in any case.

Once Maryland gets away with it, the floodgates will probably come open.

[caasoccer]

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Maryland and FSU voted against it, but it still passed.

[Psyblast]

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What's wrong with having OSU and Michigan in different divisions (As long as they play every year)?

Because the possibility of them playing two weeks in a row exists (not this year obviously). It's the same reason Alabama and Auburn are in the same division in the SEC. If and when the time comes that UM and OSU are playing two straight weeks, it will cheapen the rivalry. It's ridiculous.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I won't miss Maryland, my experience with their fans (as a general group, I'm sure there are some good Maryland fans out there) is that they were classless. I cite my personal experience, my brother's personal experience, and the last Duke - Maryland basketball game I saw where the entire student section chanted "F*** You Scheyer" at senior guard Jon Scheyer.

As for the ACC being "poached", I don't see it. They'll get back up to 14 with UConn or Louisville and go from there at basically the same strength. With the Notre Dame alliance intact as well they're not in a terrible position. There's also at least one line of thought (i.e. collection of rumors) that the ACC has the biggest home run ball lined up of all the remaining conferences, potentially adding Notre Dame and Texas as full members simultaneously once the playoff replaces the BCS.

Put it this way, losing Maryland doesn't hurt the ACC one bit.

Heh, I can't deny Maryland has it's fair share of idiot fans and they especially come out of the woods for dook. Shoot, chanting "**** you, Scheyer" is a compliment compared to what they used to say and do towards dook.

I wouldn't say losing MD doesn't hurt the ACC(although they are damn lucky they have Pitt and Cuse coming otherwise it'd simply be the Carolina and Others Conference, especially in Basketball)because losing that DC does hurt somewhat.

This implies that Maryland actually brought the DC market any more so than UVa and/or Virginia Tech (in fact it's the Hokies, not Maryland, who routinely host out-of-conference games at FedExField). DC, like Atlanta, is a pro sports town, and what college athletics interest that exists there is going to be homogenized (particularly in basketball) between UVa, VT, Maryland, Mason, GW, VCU, American, Liberty, and so on. Given that and the waning interest in Maryland athletics based on football attendance, I don't think Maryland's departure forfeits DC.

I don't think FSU is going anywhere, just like I don't think the ACC is going anywhere.

DC is a bandwagon city, in that which ever team is doing good then they'll get behind it(see mid 00s Wizards, this year's Nats, George Mason after their Final Four run and Maryland in the early-mid 00s).

Put it like this, here's is the ranking of teams in terms of relevance to DC(list is just based on living and growing up in DC for 23 of my 26 years):
For College Basketball:
1. G'Town
2. Maryland
3. Next closest team to DC, which is basically any of the VA teams.

College Football:
1. Which ever team is having the best year at the time

The DC market is important, UMD is not important. While UMD may not have many fans, it allows the DC market to show other ACC games. Those games may no longer be on TV now. Now B1G games will be on. Markets is why UMD has somewhere else to go, nothing to do with their sport teams.

Basically.

[TracerBullet]

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What's wrong with having OSU and Michigan in different divisions (As long as they play every year)?

A big part of it is the same thing we are about to possibly experience in the Pac-12, but even worse. Stanford and UCLA play this week, Stanford wins or Oregon loses, and we play the same game next week. Do that with OSU and Michigan, and their rivalry is devalued. However, if you have them play the last week of the year for a spot in the title game (if they are on the same side), and the rivalry is even better. Most would prefer the latter situation.

They aren't going to change that game from the last week of the season either, so having them on the same side would be the only way to "fix" this.