Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?)

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  • neume1mb
    Banned
    • Aug 2013
    • 98

    #181
    Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

    I'm thinking I'm going to have to institute yet another self imposed rule from my CFM, no user catching, or one user catch per game.

    I'll add it to the list of rules to keep my CFM fair.

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    • urlacher51
      Tom Brady, L.O.A.T
      • Oct 2002
      • 611

      #182
      Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

      hey guys, i just started a miami cfm for fun, and so im looking at traits for wr's and here's what i found, kenny stills, aggressive catch NO, possession catch yes, run after catch no.

      Don't know if this was known already.
      going to check out traits for DB's
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      • waynefontes
        Rookie
        • Aug 2012
        • 44

        #183
        Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

        Rex- "He is playing Draft Champions. You can get 20+ point ratings differences between elite/drafted players vs. base players. DC game balance is unique to that mode, it plays very differently from online ranked/play now/cfm.

        Really Rex?????????????????

        I just got down watching a bunch of Twitch steams of M16 and I'm about to projectile vomit.

        I saw Devin Gardner, yes the same Devin Gardner who only briefly played WR at Michigan, went undrafted and was cut by both the Patriots/Steelers this year, completely dominate in a Draft Champions game. He had 2 OBJ one hand catches in heavy traffic and ended up with 2 TDs / 180 yds. I'm a huge NFL fan and actually had to search NFL.com to see if there was another WR named Gardner that I may have been unaware of.

        Would love to see Rex's response to my post. No way in hell is there a 20+ point ratings difference between Devin and the multiple DBs that were surrounding him coverage to trigger these types of catches.

        I'm a supporter of Rex and really like his push to move Madden/EA to create a game that more accurately plays like what we see on Sundays but stuff like this drives me absolutely crazy.

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        • urlacher51
          Tom Brady, L.O.A.T
          • Oct 2002
          • 611

          #184
          Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

          Originally posted by waynefontes
          Rex- "He is playing Draft Champions. You can get 20+ point ratings differences between elite/drafted players vs. base players. DC game balance is unique to that mode, it plays very differently from online ranked/play now/cfm.

          Really Rex?????????????????

          I just got down watching a bunch of Twitch steams of M16 and I'm about to projectile vomit.

          I saw Devin Gardner, yes the same Devin Gardner who only briefly played WR at Michigan, went undrafted and was cut by both the Patriots/Steelers this year, completely dominate in a Draft Champions game. He had 2 OBJ one hand catches in heavy traffic and ended up with 2 TDs / 180 yds. I'm a huge NFL fan and actually had to search NFL.com to see if there was another WR named Gardner that I may have been unaware of.

          Would love to see Rex's response to my post. No way in hell is there a 20+ point ratings difference between Devin and the multiple DBs that were surrounding him coverage to trigger these types of catches.

          I'm a supporter of Rex and really like his push to move Madden/EA to create a game that more accurately plays like what we see on Sundays but stuff like this drives me absolutely crazy.
          That shouldn't be happening because i was looking at his traits and it says AGGRESSIVE CATCH NO.
          Correct me if im wrong, but i thought Rex said aggressive catch was tied into traits, so if that wr or te doesn't have aggressive catch, they shouldn't be making those types of plays.
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          • bcruise
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2004
            • 23274

            #185
            Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

            Originally posted by urlacher51
            That shouldn't be happening because i was looking at his traits and it says AGGRESSIVE CATCH NO.
            Correct me if im wrong, but i thought Rex said aggressive catch was tied into traits, so if that wr or te doesn't have aggressive catch, they shouldn't be making those types of plays.
            He's watching the user control those catches - the catch traits only govern the CPU reciever's actions. At least that's how I understood it.

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            • urlacher51
              Tom Brady, L.O.A.T
              • Oct 2002
              • 611

              #186
              Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

              Originally posted by bcruise
              He's watching the user control those catches - the catch traits only govern the CPU reciever's actions. At least that's how I understood it.
              If that is true , then i would guess that traits are meaningless in H2H games.. I would hope that traits are for both the user and cpu controlled players in H2H games.
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              • booker21
                MVP
                • Jun 2003
                • 4928

                #187
                Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                What about those who don't control the wr. Does the AI do aggressive catch often? This could be a no issue for those who play without manually catching. Anyone could confirm or deny this?


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                • teeteegardner
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 149

                  #188
                  Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                  Originally posted by booker21
                  What about those who don't control the wr. Does the AI do aggressive catch often? This could be a no issue for those who play without manually catching. Anyone could confirm or deny this?


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                  good point.. im mainly a offline vs CPU guy so if thats the case , i wont even bother abusing the catch system .
                  Last edited by teeteegardner; 08-18-2015, 05:59 PM.

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                  • Fist Of Kings
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 793

                    #189
                    Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                    When I heard they were addressing wr/db interactions, I was hoping wrs fighting for the ball would be determined by their ratings, instead of a prompt telling us which type of catch to go for, like with last year's aggressive/conservative tackle gimmick. I ended up turning the prompt off, because one I don't need help playing football, and two, I felt the conservative tackle was a bit strong...even with the tackle slider lowered.

                    What I'm also hoping for is that wrs actually jump for the football by themselves instead of it being like in years past where the user has to do everything. In Madden 15, you could do good with any wr with good speed. In this year's game, I want elite wrs to feel elite.

                    That hasn't been clear in all of the videos I've seen. With madden 15 in particular, dbs would go out of their way to go after the ball, while the wr(even with high jump, awareness, and catch ratings), wouldn't go for the ball unless you controlled him. This is a big deal for me, and hopefully it's been fixed.

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                    • The JareBear
                      Be Good To One Another
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 11560

                      #190
                      Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                      Holding L1 for a high point pass, so far, has made my top three WRs and TE go up for an aggressive on their own without me pressing Y

                      Also

                      You CAN police user catching. If you press any catch button, even if you don't use the left stick, it still shows the circle under the guy like you switched normally.

                      Just saying, if you really want a strict no switch/no user input on catches league you CAN do it.
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                      • booker21
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 4928

                        #191
                        Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                        Originally posted by The JareBear
                        Holding L1 for a high point pass, so far, has made my top three WRs and TE go up for an aggressive on their own without me pressing Y

                        Also

                        You CAN police user catching. If you press any catch button, even if you don't use the left stick, it still shows the circle under the guy like you switched normally.

                        Just saying, if you really want a strict no switch/no user input on catches league you CAN do it.
                        Are you broadcasting? i want to see how OP is without taking control of the WR.

                        Just do a training and go deep 1on1 without taking control of the WR and let us know the results.
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                        • The JareBear
                          Be Good To One Another
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 11560

                          #192
                          Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                          Originally posted by booker21
                          Are you broadcasting? i want to see how OP is without taking control of the WR.

                          Just do a training and go deep 1on1 without taking control of the WR and let us know the results.
                          I am afraid to broadcast, dont want to get banned.

                          With QB accuracy and Catching at 40 I went 0-4 with an 2 INTs on high point passes downfield that my guys tried to catch themselves
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                          • booker21
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 4928

                            #193
                            Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                            Good info. Thanks. Just enjoy the game


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                            • D81SKINS
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 1671

                              #194
                              Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                              Originally posted by The JareBear
                              I am afraid to broadcast, dont want to get banned.

                              With QB accuracy and Catching at 40 I went 0-4 with an 2 INTs on high point passes downfield that my guys tried to catch themselves
                              Well that is a pleasant surprise! Seems like the sliders are working as intended.
                              Thanks for sharing!

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                              • The JareBear
                                Be Good To One Another
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 11560

                                #195
                                Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                                With those sliders (just changed a few to 40 on the USER side) I had about 35 percent completion rate on aggressive catches when I pressed Y each time, and then the 0-4 output the next time letting WRs do it themselves.

                                If the sliders are equally as effective for user games in CFM, well, thats gonna be awesome
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