As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

[BasketballGHS]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

QB's don't play the same. RB's don't. These guys saying all running backs are running the same are joking. I could tell a huge difference from Stewart to Christian Mac inside running. People have to actually test the game. Also please use coaching adjustments. You have to adjust to CPU or they will pick you apart.

I wish QB would run. One time Newton had a free TD and threw an incompletion like a 6 year old QB. This game has so much potential if they would just iron out the quarterback play.

[JoshC1977]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Does anyone know FOR A FACT which version of Madden where the "Tuck and Run" trait was FIRST removed?

[gman2774]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Does anyone know FOR A FACT which version of Madden where the "Tuck and Run" trait was FIRST removed?

Oh boy. Cue D81Skins. Lol. I think he might change his OS handle to tuck&runSkins. . Love his passion for this topic. It would be a great re-addition! Go get em Skins!!


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[timhere1970]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Does anyone know FOR A FACT which version of Madden where the "Tuck and Run" trait was FIRST removed?

It was in madden 25. There is some confusion as to whether it was in 16 and removed on the first patch. If anybody has the 16 disk it would be nice to confirm.

[extremeskins04]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

It was in madden 25. There is some confusion as to whether it was in 16 and removed on the first patch. If anybody has the 16 disk it would be nice to confirm.

I have M16 and it's definitely not in there.

[D81SKINS]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Yep. M25 was the last. Every next gen we lose something that worked well for the cpu.

[timhere1970]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Yep. M25 was the last. Every next gen we loose something that worked well for the cpu.

I just watched a video of somebody creating tebow in madden 15 and the tuck and run trait was in it.

[D81SKINS]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

I just watched a video of somebody creating tebow in madden 15 and the tuck and run trait was in it.

Man, I should get paid for all the time I spend trying to improve Madden lol.
Anyway, yes, it was introduced in M12, if I'm not mistakened.

It worked well, Dual threat qbs could be dual threats.
Well, I'm guessing they nerfed the Qbs athleticism, made them more like pocket qbs, pleased the online H2H crowd and now the CPU is what it is.
I'm anxiously awaiting what they say about the cpu qb in M18.

Until then, M25 & NCAA 14 are still getting some PT

[extremeskins04]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Man, I should get paid for all the time I spend trying to improve Madden lol.
Anyway, yes, it was introduced in M12, if I'm not mistakened.

It worked well, Dual threat qbs could be dual threats.
Well, I'm guessing they nerfed the Qbs athleticism, made them more like pocket qbs, pleased the online H2H crowd and now the CPU is what it is.
I'm anxiously awaiting what they say about the cpu qb in M18.

Until then, M25 & NCAA 14 are still getting some PT

Which I never understood because the Tuck and Run trait doesn't really matter if online games or H2H games cause people control their QB's. So I don't know why EA would remove the trait if it's pointless in online.

[bad_philanthropy]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Man, I should get paid for all the time I spend trying to improve Madden lol.
Anyway, yes, it was introduced in M12, if I'm not mistakened.

It worked well, Dual threat qbs could be dual threats.
Well, I'm guessing they nerfed the Qbs athleticism, made them more like pocket qbs, pleased the online H2H crowd and now the CPU is what it is.
I'm anxiously awaiting what they say about the cpu qb in M18.

Until then, M25 & NCAA 14 are still getting some PT

What was awesome in those games was how you actively had to gameplan and use the contain, and spy plays, or call a contain adjustment, or designate a spy before the snap for running QB's, and often they weren't as effective as passers if you could get pressure on them. On the other hand the elite pocket passers would let the routes develop a bit more and get those passes off.

I remember getting burned on the ground by Terrelle Pryor early in a game, but then adjusting and bascially shutting him down, and after that he wasn't effective at all passing the ball. It made for a whole different experience from week to week in CFM.

[timhere1970]

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What was awesome in those games was how you actively had to gameplan and use the contain, and spy plays, or call a contain adjustment, or designate a spy before the snap for running QB's, and often they weren't as effective as passers if you could get pressure on them. On the other hand the elite pocket passers would let the routes develop a bit more and get those passes off.

I remember getting burned on the ground by Terrelle Pryor early in a game, but then adjusting and bascially shutting him down, and after that he wasn't effective at all passing the ball. It made for a whole different experience from week to week in CFM.

Exactly, if you tried to sit back in cover 2 man late sitting on a lead running qb's would make you pay.

[TreJayMMA]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Tucking and running is better with ideal pressure sense and a scrambling qb. With trigger happy pressure sense, they will scramble to the line and throw 2 out of every 3 times. I'm testing paranoid now.


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yeah i agree

[D81SKINS]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

I would think an ideal Qb would avoid more sacks than a paranoid.
Is the paranoid trait triggering the QB to run straight back?
Or is this a product of awarness or something else?

Any GC's want to confirm or deny the correlation?

[Manning2Harrison]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

I would think an ideal Qb would avoid more sacks than a paranoid.
Is the paranoid trait triggering the QB to run straight back?
Or is this a product of awarness or something else?

Any GC's want to confirm or deny the correlation?

Given that conservative and balanced aren't really what they say for forces throws, paranoid might actually be ideal.

[aholbert32]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

I would think an ideal Qb would avoid more sacks than a paranoid.
Is the paranoid trait triggering the QB to run straight back?
Or is this a product of awarness or something else?

Any GC's want to confirm or deny the correlation?

Ideal is better than paranoid but Ideal should only be given to Qbs who are top QBs because ideal gives a bit of a attribute bump.