As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

[callmetaternuts]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

any news on tuning cpu qb logic and qb traits? Lengthy forum about it on operation sports

Clint: no news. Investigating. We'll keep you posted if something happens.

John White said they will look into it.

So we know by this that it won't be in the mid-Sept patch. That patch has to be in the final portion of testing/creating so it can go be certified by Sony/Microsoft.

If they are just now investigating, it has to be found, verified, fixed, tested etc. No way that hits this next patch.

[roadman]

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we need to spell out for them that its in CFM...its my guess they just fire up play now mode and look and see...

CFM plays completely different and as JoshC found out, the traits dont carry over the same. someone needs to make sure they test this in CFM and not play now...otherwise they will just come and tell us they dont see an issue

I know they test differently, but last year Clint pointed out that they play out the same.

I'm just saying someone would have a difficult time debating Clint they PN and CFM test differently.

I just mentioned CFM is the mode we tested this in and to investigate this in CFM.

We'll see.

[roadman]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

So we know by this that it won't be in the mid-Sept patch. That patch has to be in the final portion of testing/creating so it can go be certified by Sony/Microsoft.

If they are just now investigating, it has to be found, verified, fixed, tested etc. No way that hits this next patch.

Agree, unless it can be done with a tuner.

[jmarcguy]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Way back when I used to play NBA Live 95, I remember switching my controller to take control of my computer opponent. I'd sub their starting lineup back in because they sometimes wouldn't come back in the 4th quarter. Sometimes I'd give the CPU a lead so I'd have to struggle some.

Madden has moved MILES beyond those simplistic games but I can't believe we still have to work so hard to get a competitive game out of the CPU.


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[booker21]

As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

any news on tuning cpu qb logic and qb traits? Lengthy forum about it on operation sports



Clint: no news. Investigating. We'll keep you posted if something happens.



John White said they will look into it.

This was the same situation back with madden 2015 I believe. Where the game was a sack fest. They said that it was a big of a changed to do via patch so they were not going to risk it. Of course this was after several answers saying that everything was working correctly.

Next year they made the best QB AI. After 2 years they are back to what was it years ago. Madden is 1 step forward 2 step backwards.

This also happen with patches. They don't carry on.

I'm almost 40 years and to be honest I'm a bit tired of the same thing year after year.


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[Smallville102001]

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I don't see this being fixed sounds like something that would be hard to fix in a patch and it has be a issue in like madden 15-18 with like 15 or this year being the worst have not played this years game so hard to say if it is worse then last year or not. 15 ever game was like a 10-12 sack game and they said they saw no problem with it lol. Yeah 10-12 sacks is so realistic lol.

[Quentin32]

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I'm legit sad on how Madden gameplay is in 2017. I thought by now we would be much further along in that dept. PS2 Madden did passing and QB play better imo. Ps2 Madden there was passes only elite qbs could make. Arm strength & accuracy mattered more. I either played or owned ever Madden up until last year. Now it's 2 years in a row I won't play this game.

I know it's not gonna happen, but if I was EA nobody working on anything else but gameplay. 98% of resources is for gameplay. The other 2% is for ultimate team because it's EA. They can rehash every feature and not update any of them. Hell take all the features away I wouldn't care. Just get the gameplay right EA. I want to buy Madden again

[D81SKINS]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

any news on tuning cpu qb logic and qb traits? Lengthy forum about it on operation sports

Clint: no news. Investigating. We'll keep you posted if something happens.

John White said they will look into it.

I would love to see them give some love to the CPU QB, Pocket awareness, escapability(see what the avg. sack avoidance ability QBS have irl)
I've seen Qbs regularly avoid sacks, escape, but Madden has always struggled w/ Qbs breaking out or avoiding sacks.

I'm just afraid it may be M20 before we see this, hope I'm wrong.

[schnaidt1]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

I would love to see them give some love to the CPU QB, Pocket awareness, escapability(see what the avg. sack avoidance ability QBS have irl)
I've seen Qbs regularly avoid sacks, escape, but Madden has always struggled w/ Qbs breaking out or avoiding sacks.

I'm just afraid it may be M20 before we see this, hope I'm wrong.

im afraid they are going to treat this like the sack issue of madden 15...where multiple threads...pages and pages long discussing an issue...they say they look at it..then tell us they dont see anything wrong...so they leave it untouched..

thats exactly what they did with madden 15 regarding sacks....ugh...I wish they would give us more of a reason to have faith in them...

having competition would probably do that...

[gr18]

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I'm thinking that they are very aware of the issue as it has existed since last year but feel that it's not an easy fix and has possible consequences.They were otherwise very good with patching problems the past few.years.

[SyncereBlackout]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

I'm thinking that they are very aware of the issue as it has existed since last year but feel that it's not an easy fix and has possible consequences.They were otherwise very good with patching problems the past few.years.

It would be interesting to get an official response from them. Is it really a CPU issue, is it a symptom of something bigger, is it a response to something users are doing that they don't (in their testing)


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[mooch49]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Nice to see there are occasions when quarterback makes the right decision.

https://youtu.be/6USDpCxs9N8

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[D81SKINS]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

It would be interesting to get an official response from them. Is it really a CPU issue, is it a symptom of something bigger, is it a response to something users are doing that they don't (in their testing)


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Word is, it may be a traits issue, or, lack there of (Tuck&Run).

Next time you watch Dak, Mariota, or any qb w/ pocket awareness, count how many times they have to escape(left, right, up the middle). Yes, some do it better than others, imo that should be the Tuck & Run trait.
Once they go into T&R, that's when the Qbs running skills kick in.
Man, if each qb played similar to their real life counterparts.
Each qb would have a similar but different set of skills.
Think T. Brady pocket awareness vs R. Wilson type qbs.
Brady will avoid hits in the pocket and R. Wilson will do more damage outside.
CPU Qb's need so much more love.

[D81SKINS]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Nice to see there are occasions when quarterback makes the right decision.

https://youtu.be/6USDpCxs9N8

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The Tuck & Run was good, but, what about fumbling?? Cam wouldve ran out or slid. Nice tuck & run but bad end result.

[RogerDodger]

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There's a new 11 minute FIFA 18 video of the FIFA equivalent mode to CFM that shows some interesting new stuff derived from last years 'The Journey' - in particular animated negotiations between teams and players/agents where you actively engage in a two or three way conversation. I haven't played any Longshot so I don't know whether there are any viable elements to that mode that could translate to franchise mode next year but I'm guessing it's possible. There's also video news elements of players signing for a new team and holding the jersey up at the press conference.

Edit: I meant to post this in the CFM/Franchise mode thread