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Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.
I just went through all my stats from the games I played on default All-Pro which was 15 games and looked at the QB traits for each QB I faced. I broke down the sack %'s by each trait and the only one where there seemed to be much of a difference was the Sense Pressure trait. Every other trait was basically the same across the board in terms of sacks per pass play. The only thing was that there isn't a great sample size for either end on that one as I only played 2 Oblivious QB's and one Trigger Happy QB. It probably doesn't really mean much though given all the different factors that can play into it as well as the mix and mash of traits among QB's.Comment
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Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.
josh what is the quarterback edit we need to make thanksComment
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Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.
I played the game now.
8 sacks in 3 quarters. Not even controlling the DL. What I hate the most is that this was an issue since a few maddens back and they spent resources in long shot and many other stuff and not in core key gameplay elements.
Back ten they said it was too big to fix it via patch. They had 2 years. Still the same Dumb QB AI.English, is not my first language.Comment
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Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.
Madden 15 was a sack fest. Horrible. Madden 16 had the best CPU qb AI ever. I wonder why they went back to the same old dumb qb.
Man I feel like downloading madden 16 now. 😳English, is not my first language.Comment
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As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.
This is my first year playing on a current system. I was used to getting 2k on PS3 and editing players & playbooks for months to get the game to play solid. I returned to Madden with 15 on PS3 and was surprised by some of the bad CPU play. I had really high hopes once I bought a PS4 That everything still comes down to the gamers programming the game is a letdown.
Clearly the focus is heavily on online play. I almost never see videos addressing CPU play.
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Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.
These clips are from a CFM game I am currently playing. I'm using all of Josh's default settings and goaline gameplans as outlined in his thread. I edited Cam Newton sense trait to conservative and quarterback type to balance. I am also using edited Carolina playbooks that I downloaded from the community. You can see in a couple of them how Cam moves around the pocket, even throws one away. Although EA needs to fix the animation where the quarterback throws across the left side.
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The quarterback play in these videos suffices and is good for the most part. I just don't think there is any way to get around the quarterback legacy issues such as them throwing to the other side of the field instead of running or when they stand in the pocket like a statue until EA makes a concerted effort in improving the AI. All these workarounds help some, but in the end can't fix the main problems. Plus only the serious Madden gamers like us in this community are willing to test things to make the game more realistic. The majority who buy the game are casual fans and just want to pick up and play with their friends either together or online. They don't dissect every part and play to see how true they are to the sport. They just want to have fun playing the game. That's really the audience EA focuses on, as well as the competitive gamer. Us sim guys are at the bottom of their focus groups. Hopefully with the new Madden team, that is starting to change.Last edited by mooch49; 08-28-2017, 10:46 PM.Comment
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As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.
M 16 has the beat qb ai in the series by far....
I enjoyed m25 and m16 the most from the series but m16 is great. Beats both 17 and 18 quite easily
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Well, M25 has definitely done good for me.
Love the Hot and Cold streaks, Adaptive Traits, and CPU QBs know when and where to run, in other words, they have better run/escape logic.
I want to break out of sacks! Qb avoidance stick is in M25, seems like the CPU knows how to use it.
There's always +/- for EVERY Madden, but this one has much better CPU QB ai. Still has other issues though.
I'd be tempted to go check out my M25 sliders, if I can dig them up.
I controlled all the athletic QBS in M16, I played all the games on the schedule, attempting to win w/ all the teams that won irl.
EXCEPT,
one game I pulled out of the archives, Bridgewater was controlled by the CPU and had 7atts 30yds. I mentioned how he escaped and picked up yards. So M16 may just be the Actual best Madden since M25.
I also favor M25 due to having the All-Time Teams.
My All-time players, Sean Taylor, Deion Sanders, Barry Sanders.
Both versions have their better partsLast edited by D81SKINS; 08-29-2017, 07:23 AM.Comment
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Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.
These clips are from a CFM game I am currently playing. I'm using all of Josh's default settings and goaline gameplans as outlined in his thread. I edited Cam Newton sense trait to conservative and quarterback type to balance. I am also using edited Carolina playbooks that I downloaded from the community. You can see in a couple of them how Cam moves around the pocket, even throws one away. Although EA needs to fix the animation where the quarterback throws across the left side.
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The quarterback play in these videos suffices and is good for the most part. I just don't think there is any way to get around the quarterback legacy issues such as them throwing to the other side of the field instead of running or when they stand in the pocket like a statue until EA makes a concerted effort in improving the AI. All these workarounds help some, but in the end can't fix the main problems. Plus only the serious Madden gamers like us in this community are willing to test things to make the game more realistic. The majority who buy the game are casual fans and just want to pick up and play with their friends either together or online. They don't dissect every part and play to see how true they are to the sport. They just want to have fun playing the game. That's really the audience EA focuses on, as well as the competitive gamer. Us sim guys are at the bottom of their focus groups. Hopefully with the new Madden team, that is starting to change.
I don't know man. I read this and I run to my console to try it. I didn't bother on setting everything so I just edited force passes from balance to conservative as he said on their thread.
First half only 2 sacks. I'm actually using the 49ers so it was the same game as yours.
I had to turn my system on because I have to some stuff. When I res turn I fired up all happy that this was "fixed" and same game same settings. Newton took 5 sacks on the first. Half. I said where're. Turned the system off.
Personally I'm not see that improvements.
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Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.
After reading all these post, I started another experimental Franchise as the Browns using Simulation, All-Pro, A highly recommended set of sliders, original EA rosters, Made the QB's changes to conservative. and started preseason against the Saints. This is POTM but mostly just watched the pathetic games. Called plays when asked.
First game, Saints beat the Browns 10 to 6. The Saints sacked my browns QB 11 times. Browns sacked the Saints QB's a total of 7 times. Tackles for loss the Saints totaled 15 and the Browns totaled 9. Yet the QB's still had a 70% completion rating. Basically receivers were wide open, No pass defense coverage, but the pass rush was insane. No one could run the ball. Thinking this game had to be a fluke. It was totally ridiculous.
Game two. Giants vs Browns. Browns 34 to 28. Browns sacked QB's 9 times Giants had 8 sacks. Grand total of tackles for loss 19. But once again, receivers wide open. Browns with 4 TD passes, longest 69 yds. shortest 28 yds. Giants with 3 TD passes. Longest 52 , shortest 18 yds. Never once in both games did a QB scramble. Never once did a QB throw the ball away. They either completed passes or stood there and took sack after sack.
This is not FB, It don't even represent FB. How can EA go from a decent defensive game in 17 and QB throwing the ball away and at least attempting to move a little to this pathetic mess. I can't imagine how they simply screwed it up this bad. Oh, And Ii forgot to add three shanked punts. One hitting my player in the helmet and they recovered the ball.
I can understand, preseason..not the best, and a fluke game now and then. But in two games. 35 sacks, and 43 tackles for loss.. That's crazy. And yet still completing about every pass they threw. Just completely and totally insane. This is a store bought CD and not a DL.
There in no way anyone will ever convince me this game is not broken.. But I won't give up. I will find away to make it play somewhat realistically if I have to edit every player inn the NFL. I sure as hell shouldn't have to though.. Not for 60 dollars.When I do something right, No one ever remembers.
When I do something wrong, No one ever forgets.!Comment
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Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.
More than anything else as a community we cannot accept the current game bugged as hell!Why so serious??Comment
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