Pre-Created Rookies - Good or Bad?

[gbeazy]

Re: Pre-Created Rookies - Good or Bad?

This is one of the many reasons I didn't like Head Coach. Overall the game was like sim football for kids. Much improved, but too casual.

If HC09 was for kids and casual, then Madden franchise is for (I can't think of a good analogy). I feel HC09 had much more depth than Madden 360 ever had, ex. gameplanning, everything in the offseason.

Don't buy the strategy guide, or read post that say "spoiler" and everyone should be fine. Madden has Top 10 picks, NCAA has blue stars, so we already know who's gonna be good. It's just pre created rookies allow for more everything. Players can have personalities in addition to attributes(and the ratings will be balanced)

I really believe some people haven't played HC09 which is causing this disbelief. Hey it's like $10 at walmart

[youALREADYknow]

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How in any way does pre-created drafts correspond to online franchise?

Online Franchise = 2 or more human users

"Welcome to the EA Sports 2011 NFL Draft. This year all of the buzz is surrounding the star QB Joe Simmons and RB Jim Fuller"

*pause* *Check OS forums* *Check spoilers*

"Wait, we have a trade" "The Dallas Cowboys have traded for the #1 pick in the draft"

*The Dallas Cowboys select RB Jim Fuller (The best player in that draft set's history)*

"Next up, the Detroit Lions"

*The Detroit Lions pass on QB Joe Simmons (A known bust on the forums) and take WR Harry Taylor*
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Do you not see the problem here? The online community and strategy guides would have every sleeper, bust, etc. down to a science within a couple of weeks/months after release.

You CANNOT have pre-created prospects with Online Franchise. I'm sure the intelligent people at Tiburon/EA have figured that out by now, so I'm 99% sure that we won't be seeing Online Franchise.

As someone who plays NCAA's Online Dynasty, there is enough of a mess with that mode for me to imagine how horrendous that kind of cheating would be.

[OSTAJ34]

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I'm really starting to like the pre-created rookie idea...

[Jukeman]

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Online Franchise = 2 or more human users

"Welcome to the EA Sports 2011 NFL Draft. This year all of the buzz is surrounding the star QB Joe Simmons and RB Jim Fuller"

*pause* *Check OS forums* *Check spoilers*

"Wait, we have a trade" "The Dallas Cowboys have traded for the #1 pick in the draft"

*The Dallas Cowboys select RB Jim Fuller (The best player in that draft set's history)*

"Next up, the Detroit Lions"

*The Detroit Lions pass on QB Joe Simmons (A known bust on the forums) and take WR Harry Taylor*
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Do you not see the problem here? The online community and strategy guides would have every sleeper, bust, etc. down to a science within a couple of weeks/months after release.

You CANNOT have pre-created prospects with Online Franchise. I'm sure the intelligent people at Tiburon/EA have figured that out by now, so I'm 99% sure that we won't be seeing Online Franchise.

As someone who plays NCAA's Online Dynasty, there is enough of a mess with that mode for me to imagine how horrendous that kind of cheating would be.

Who said the names wont be randomized???

[FadeEmAll]

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Do you not see the problem here? The online community and strategy guides would have every sleeper, bust, etc. down to a science within a couple of weeks/months after release.

You CANNOT have pre-created prospects with Online Franchise. I'm sure the intelligent people at Tiburon/EA have figured that out by now, so I'm 99% sure that we won't be seeing Online Franchise.

How is that any different from an offline franchise? Sure the other players won't pick up any busts but neither will you and ultimately it's all about who trades for the overall number 1 pick and wants to sacrifice that much money for their players. I don't see any difference and if it is that big of a problem just import some draft classes from NCAA and put everyone on the same playing field.

[Exonerated]

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Who said the names wont be randomized???

I know! No one!!!

Seeing Donny and Josh's work on HC09, I don't think they're idiots. I'm sure they've though more than 2 seconds on what they're implementing.

[lionsfan715]

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why would you know use draft classes in an online dynasty in madden anyways
? That will be the funnest thing, playing your ncaa OD then importing your draft classes to your madden online dynasty

[gbeazy]

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Online Franchise = 2 or more human users

"Welcome to the EA Sports 2011 NFL Draft. This year all of the buzz is surrounding the star QB Joe Simmons and RB Jim Fuller"

*pause* *Check OS forums* *Check spoilers*

"Wait, we have a trade" "The Dallas Cowboys have traded for the #1 pick in the draft"

*The Dallas Cowboys select RB Jim Fuller (The best player in that draft set's history)*

"Next up, the Detroit Lions"

*The Detroit Lions pass on QB Joe Simmons (A known bust on the forums) and take WR Harry Taylor*.

I think alot of this has to do with the people you play with. I would like to try Online Franchise by the way. But a few things with this scenario stand out. You have to give up alot to trade up anywhere in top 5. So for Dallas, it might take Ware and two 1st round picks. And then backdoor and pay him atleast 30 mil signing bonus, if they have cap room from cutting T.O. And he might have a personality clash with staff, or Dallas' RB, OC, HCoach suck, and he doesn't fully develop. Or Fuller may be scat back and not fit into the team's philosophy.
And I guarantee Lions would take the QB Joe Simmons because they are the Lions and that's what they do.

[SomeStrangeSin]

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Online Franchise = 2 or more human users

"Welcome to the EA Sports 2011 NFL Draft. This year all of the buzz is surrounding the star QB Joe Simmons and RB Jim Fuller"

*pause* *Check OS forums* *Check spoilers*

"Wait, we have a trade" "The Dallas Cowboys have traded for the #1 pick in the draft"

*The Dallas Cowboys select RB Jim Fuller (The best player in that draft set's history)*

"Next up, the Detroit Lions"

*The Detroit Lions pass on QB Joe Simmons (A known bust on the forums) and take WR Harry Taylor*
----------------------------

Do you not see the problem here? The online community and strategy guides would have every sleeper, bust, etc. down to a science within a couple of weeks/months after release.

You CANNOT have pre-created prospects with Online Franchise. I'm sure the intelligent people at Tiburon/EA have figured that out by now, so I'm 99% sure that we won't be seeing Online Franchise.

As someone who plays NCAA's Online Dynasty, there is enough of a mess with that mode for me to imagine how horrendous that kind of cheating would be.

+1
random rookies have to be used in a online franchise.
if they did pre-created rookies it would be a online cheese fest who ever reads the most spoiler guides become a A+ scouter.
soo much for "everything you see on sunday see it on madden nfl"

[TheCreep]

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The one main thing I can see coming from this is the simple fact that the draft class will now actually have faces instead of the blank spots, man that **** irritated the hell out of me, lol. As someone stated before, no more players under the witness protection program

[gbeazy]

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+1
random rookies have to be used in a online franchise.
if they did pre-created rookies it would be a online cheese fest who ever reads the most spoiler guides become a A+ scouter.
soo much for "everything you see on sunday see it on madden nfl"

1. Online is already cheese if that's who you play with.
2. Almost every game has a strategy guide.
3. And I do see A+ scouting on Sunday, like the Pats,Pitt, and Detroit (oops)

[youALREADYknow]

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I think alot of this has to do with the people you play with.

No... it really doesn't. Despite popular belief, people are simply not trustworthy as a whole. EVERY online dynasty in NCAA 09 has at least one cheater and likely a lot of them. Some cheating is minor, some is major, but for the most part users will use whatever they can to get a competitive edge. Once one person gains an unfair advantage, the rest of the league will follow suit to balance the playing field. Some people have integrity and won't follow suit, but they are rare in today's age.

[youALREADYknow]

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Who said the names wont be randomized???

If the names are randomized, then we lose the storylines that go with those players.

I'm sure that a lot of the filler prospects will have randomized names, but one of the attractive things about having pre-created prospects is that certain big name prospects have full storylines to go with them.

If they managed to randomize name and keep storylines, then that would be an achievement to pat someone on the back for.

[gbeazy]

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They cheat on Sunday's too. ex Patriots. But they are the ones who got caught.
And if I know and you know, like on Sunday, who is gonna be good (Jake Long for ex.) what's wrong with that. But there is no guarantee he'll be good for you or that you'll even get him on your team.

[youALREADYknow]

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They cheat on Sunday's too. ex Patriots. But they are the ones who got caught.
And if I know and you know, like on Sunday, who is gonna be good (Jake Long for ex.) what's wrong with that. But there is no guarantee he'll be good for you or that you'll even get him on your team.

No team knows that a player is a guaranteed NFL superstar and the best prospect ever going into the NFL Draft. You are comparing apples and oranges.