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  • J_Posse
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    • Jun 2005
    • 11255

    #76
    Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest.

    Originally posted by kehlis
    It’s all but confirmed we are getting news on 6/7.


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    Why you gotta throw salt in the wound by mocking homie, man?

    I mean pointing out he was wrong.

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    • kehlis
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      • Jul 2008
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      #77
      Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest.

      Originally posted by J_Posse
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      Why you gotta throw salt in the wound by mocking homie, man?

      I mean pointing out he was wrong.

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      A game will come, was just never going to be part of this announcement.

      And I’m not as convinced as others that EA and the NFL will renew the exclusive license when this deal is up. I don’t think they need each other anymore.

      So as far as I’m concerned and I know it sucks - the longer the better if we want to hold out hope for the possibility of an actual competitor to Madden.


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      • J_Posse
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        • Jun 2005
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        #78
        Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest.

        Originally posted by kehlis
        A game will come, was just never going to be part of this announcement.

        And I’m not as convinced as others that EA and the NFL will renew the exclusive license when this deal is up. I don’t think they need each other anymore.

        So as far as I’m concerned and I know it sucks - the longer the better if we want to hold out hope for the possibility of an actual competitor to Madden.


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        I see people making that assumption (here and on YouTube), but just for fun I'd love to read why you think the exclusive deal might end?

        I think it's just more cost effective on EA's part to allow it to become 'non-exclusive' again cause the barrier for entry is so high (license fees plus development cost).

        It's kind of why we are down to one game in every major US sport. Licensing fees plus development makes it damn near impossible to start up a new game.

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        • simbayless
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          • May 2011
          • 2040

          #79
          Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest. (Update: no new

          Correct me if I'm wrong So if EA breakthrough this year 2024 and the license expires in 2026
          EA can opt-in for 1 additional year 2027🤔
          So that's 3 years more years we have to wait

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          • J_Posse
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            • Jun 2005
            • 11255

            #80
            Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest. (Update: no new

            Originally posted by simbayless
            Correct me if I'm wrong So if EA breakthrough this year 2024 and the license expires in 2026

            EA can opt-in for 1 additional year 2027[emoji848]

            So that's 3 years more years we have to wait
            No, the extra year is for 2026 if they reach financial benchmarks.

            I think a lot of the contractual obligation stuff is why none of the major sports titles (until college football's return) have abandoned last-gen.

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            • illwill10
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              • Mar 2009
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              #81
              Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest. (Update: no new

              Originally posted by J_Posse
              No, the extra year is for 2026 if they reach financial benchmarks.

              I think a lot of the contractual obligation stuff is why none of the major sports titles (until college football's return) have abandoned last-gen.

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              Fully agree

              EA CFB doesn't seem to have the revenue expectations and licensing costs as the other sports games. I would expect Madden 26 to be cross gen as well. Madden 25 last gen is likely will just be a roster update and QOL improvements. But, there will be plenty who spends a ton on microtransactions, so it'll stick around.

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              • tril
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                • Nov 2004
                • 2913

                #82
                Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest. (Update: no new

                so many football games being released this year, that its probably best that 2k keeps quiet, and let the dust settle before they make an announcement or have an official reveal.

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                • kehlis
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                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27738

                  #83
                  Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest.

                  Originally posted by J_Posse
                  I see people making that assumption (here and on YouTube), but just for fun I'd love to read why you think the exclusive deal might end?

                  I think it's just more cost effective on EA's part to allow it to become 'non-exclusive' again cause the barrier for entry is so high (license fees plus development cost).

                  It's kind of why we are down to one game in every major US sport. Licensing fees plus development makes it damn near impossible to start up a new game.

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                  I'll admit that I haven't seen or read any similar thoughts. Actually, the few things I've seen tend to trend the other direction.

                  I just think EA no longer needs the exclusive license (even for just simulation games). This entire generation has grown up only playing one NFL game. The license opening up fully would not threaten them at all.

                  Those that would buy 2K only would either be a miniscule dent to their bottom line or not even felt at all (people who haven't bought Madden in years).

                  If the NFL were to play hardball and say they will again make the license exclusive if EA doesn't pay up there is no doubt they will. I just don't see either party really being dependent on each other anymore.

                  (I say all this while acknowledging the NFL's business model has generally been to have exclusive parternships)

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                  • sva91
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                    • Feb 2005
                    • 2019

                    #84
                    Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest.

                    Originally posted by kehlis
                    I'll admit that I haven't seen or read any similar thoughts. Actually, the few things I've seen tend to trend the other direction.



                    I just think EA no longer needs the exclusive license (even for just simulation games). This entire generation has grown up only playing one NFL game. The license opening up fully would not threaten them at all.



                    Those that would buy 2K only would either be a miniscule dent to their bottom line or not even felt at all (people who haven't bought Madden in years).



                    If the NFL were to play hardball and say they will again make the license exclusive if EA doesn't pay up there is no doubt they will. I just don't see either party really being dependent on each other anymore.



                    (I say all this while acknowledging the NFL's business model has generally been to have exclusive parternships)


                    I think you’re wrong tbh. Madden has been getting a bad rap now for years. Social media is a strong marketing tool. I can see people
                    Buying college football to get their ea fix and then getting 2k for their pro football game. Madden sells because football is king in america and people, like myself, get the itch to play a licensed football game. I know better and still always buy it when it goes on sale. The hype for a licensed 2k game would be just like the college football game hype. Social media would be hyping people up like crazy.


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                    • simbayless
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                      • May 2011
                      • 2040

                      #85
                      Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest. (Update: no new

                      Looks like we might have to wait until PS6 comes out
                      In 2028 because of the possible additional year that will lead to 2027 and then 2k dubut their game in 2028 if they can get sim rights
                      Basically 2k blew their load and had post load clarity
                      And realized this arcade stuff is not gonna sell

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                      • J_Posse
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                        • Jun 2005
                        • 11255

                        #86
                        Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest. (Update: no new

                        Originally posted by simbayless
                        Looks like we might have to wait until PS6 comes out
                        In 2028 because of the possible additional year that will lead to 2027 and then 2k dubut their game in 2028 if they can get sim rights
                        Basically 2k blew their load and had post load clarity
                        And realized this arcade stuff is not gonna sell

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                        I just looked it up (again) - when adding the additional year - the deal between EA and the NFL ends in 2026 (Madden NFL '27) not '27.


                        The earliest we'd see a sim offering from 2K would be after the '26 season. That is three years away from August of this year (when Madden NFL '25 presumably releases).

                        Nevermind, I get what you are saying. That they'd wait until the following year of 2027 or the next of 2028 to debut this hypothetical NFL 2K to coincide with the next console gen. I think that is too long of a wait, IMO, and waiting to debut on a smaller install base is unwise (consoles don't seem to fly off the shelves like they use to).

                        The only question by then will is a second NFL game viable & attractive to consumers after only knowing 'Madden NFL' for 15 years?

                        Also, after seeing the 'advantage' of dropping the exclusivity to the FIFA (which isn't as valuable to pro soccer as the NFL license is to pro football) license. Will EA rethink their position on maintaining the exclusive license (at such a high premium cost) with the NFL?

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                        • Blzer
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                          #87
                          Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest. (Update: no new

                          At least this time GTA 6 will have come out beforehand, so with that infinite money glitch taking hold it's entirely possible that T2 will unload some of their built-up war chest on nabbing the NFL license from under EA, or at least enough to share it.
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                          • J_Posse
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                            • Jun 2005
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                            #88
                            Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest. (Update: no new

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            At least this time GTA 6 will have come out beforehand, so with that infinite money glitch taking hold it's entirely possible that T2 will unload some of their built-up war chest on nabbing the NFL license from under EA, or at least enough to share it.
                            Will it be throwing a huge number ($2 billion from both companies) or EA balking at going to $2 - $2.5 billion alone that ends the exclusive agreement?

                            How much was it that FIFA was demanding that ended their partnership with EA?

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                            • Hooe
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                              #89
                              Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest. (Update: no new

                              Originally posted by J_Posse
                              Will it be throwing a huge number ($2 billion from both companies) or EA balking at going to $2 - $2.5 billion that ends the exclusive agreement?

                              How much was it that FIFA was demanding that ended their partnership with EA?

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                              I don’t think FIFA is an accurate comparison to make. It’s possible to make a professional soccer game without the FIFA license; all EA Sports loses is the World Cup and such. They already have all the club league licenses.

                              The same situation doesn’t exist with the NFL. Yes, they could just license the NFLPA, but no one is going to buy Madden NFLPA 27 without all the real teams’ logos and laundry. Similarly, Madden NFL 27 doesn’t work without the NFLPA license.

                              I don’t see a world where EA Sports doesn’t renew both licenses within the next two years. At best, they agree to a non-exclusive simulation console and PC license with one or both licensors, but I would call even that a long shot.

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                              • J_Posse
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                                • Jun 2005
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                                #90
                                Re: NFL 2K console game will be revealed June 7th at Summer Gamefest. (Update: no new

                                Originally posted by CM Hooe
                                I don’t think FIFA is an accurate comparison to make. It’s possible to make a professional soccer game without the FIFA license; all EA Sports loses is the World Cup and such. They already have all the club league licenses.

                                The same situation doesn’t exist with the NFL. Yes, they could just license the NFLPA, but no one is going to buy Madden NFLPA 27 without all the real teams’ logos and laundry. Similarly, Madden NFL 27 doesn’t work without the NFLPA license.

                                I don’t see a world where EA Sports doesn’t renew both licenses within the next two years. At best, they agree to a non-exclusive simulation console and PC license with one or both licensors, but I would call even that a long shot.
                                Yes, I knew all of that but thought most everyone else did too.

                                It isn't a 1 - 1 comparison, true, but I would tend to believe that EA eventually wouldn't want to pony up $2+ billion for a license that they can solely use.

                                They've essentially priced most other publishers out of the market, plus the huge development costs to make a brand new NFL sim on top of that.

                                This is obviously all hypothetical and I'm of the opinion (still) that 2K should make an arcade game inspired by the original NFL 2K.



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