Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

[HotShot232]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Let start testing the ONLINE sliders that I put up in the slider thread. O-line blocking is reduced to give more need for legend blocks, because with out them legend D will get in MUCH faster now. Bump coverage up a good deal to deal with more realistic size zoning holes and man on man coverage. As it is now it looks like golds playing against highschool players sometimes. Raised Pursuit so Linebackers hit holes faster.

We can all start playing one another with this set and have a much more realistic experience. If you are unsure of how to use sliders online, read the thread. The sliders posted there is just a base set for all of us to start testing and tweeking what might need to be changed.

Grunt lets do our testing tonight.

Later guys

[grunt]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

LOL but against a generic Oline? That's the thing. VC has Legend Olinemen in the game but they do not force you to take any of them because you can get along just fine without them. The thing that people fail to realize is all of those guys, Campbell, Emmitt ect., perhaps with the exception of Barry, it isn't like they had chumps blocking for them in real life.

Now, that is the main problem. The oline play is too good and the generics are just as good bronze and some silver legends. Their ability to reach the 2nd level shouldn't happen as much. I agree. Hope the sliders set will help this issue.

[grunt]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Let start testing the ONLINE sliders that I put up in the slider thread. O-line blocking is reduced to give more need for legend blocks, because with out them legend D will get in MUCH faster now. Bump coverage up a good deal to deal with more realistic size zoning holes and man on man coverage. As it is now it looks like golds playing against highschool players sometimes. Raised Pursuit so Linebackers hit holes faster.

We can all start playing one another with this set and have a much more realistic experience. If you are unsure of how to use sliders online, read the thread. The sliders posted there is just a base set for all of us to start testing and tweeking what might need to be changed.

Grunt lets do our testing tonight.

Later guys

Cool.

[TombSong]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Well my generic OL gets abused on a regular. Couple that with Bernie Kosar and its sackfest 2008. I am struggling with this combination at the moment but I aint gonna abandon it till I get proficient with it.

LB, me and Freak had another good game last night. My freakin defense scored my only points.
I think the score was like 7-6 When I scored late in the game. Then I let a late hit penalty get me so angry I got out of my game thinking about that and he moved the ball downfield and scored, for the win.

If I can ever get some points out of this offense It will be a dangerous team.

[LBzrule]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Well my generic OL gets abused on a regular. Couple that with Bernie Kosar and its sackfest 2008. I am struggling with this combination at the moment but I aint gonna abandon it till I get proficient with it.

LB, me and Freak had another good game last night. My freakin defense scored my only points.
I think the score was like 7-6 When I scored late in the game. Then I let a late hit penalty get me so angry I got out of my game thinking about that and he moved the ball downfield and scored, for the win.

If I can ever get some points out of this offense It will be a dangerous team.

Don't let him fool you man. The thing with playing him is, you never know when he's simply testing stuff or when he is being serious. Sometimes he just test stuff to see if it works. But when he is serious it's going to be one of those games. The thing also is the reason it seems his D is hard is because you haven't seen it much. I've had games with him where he gets 1 sack but that's because we play over and over and it is also because of a QB named Marino. Now for me, if I had Freak's defense I don't think I'd ever lose although I would still be dissatisfied against the Cheeser and the slow speed. I have no problems on offense at all.

[TombSong]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Don't let him fool you man. The thing with playing him is, you never know when he's simply testing stuff or when he is being serious. Sometimes he just test stuff to see if it works. But when he is serious it's going to be one of those games. The thing also is the reason it seems his D is hard is because you haven't seen it much. I've had games with him where he gets 1 sack but that's because we play over and over and it is also because of a QB named Marino. Now for me, if I had Freak's defense I don't think I'd ever lose although I would still be dissatisfied against the Cheeser and the slow speed. I have no problems on offense at all.

Early on I have not had problems on offense. Ever since I played Freak, its like i play everyone now like I am playing freak....I think I am having Freakmares, LOL. I am not calm in the pocket with this squad. I feel like I gotta get rid of the ball QUICK every play because this Oline allows DT's to penetrate so fast. Its CRAZY MAN....CRAZY !!!!

He may very well have been experimenting on me last night. Fun games though. I learn something each game.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Grunt what settings are you testing the OS Balance Sliders in. I would be interested in being a tester, so we can create a nice set for people to use. Especially in Leagues. Right now I'm in a League (ALL PRO setting) which the average scores are like 36-24.

My last game was 49-47. We have discuss what we can do to get the defense to respond better. EX, move to Legend, Enable Performance EQ., but the Slider Discussion hasn't been brought-up yet. Most are against EQ & some are against moving to LEGEND, which might give an opening to Slider Change.

Let me know when you guys are gonna start testing.

BFJ

[grunt]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Grunt what settings are you testing the OS Balance Sliders in. I would be interested in being a tester, so we can create a nice set for people to use. Especially in Leagues. Right now I'm in a League (ALL PRO setting) which the average scores are like 36-24.

My last game was 49-47. We have discuss what we can do to get the defense to respond better. EX, move to Legend, Enable Performance EQ., but the Slider Discussion hasn't been brought-up yet. Most are against EQ & some are against moving to LEGEND, which might give an opening to Slider Change.

Let me know when you guys are gonna start testing.

BFJ

We are starting with Hot Shot sliders. There are in the APF sliders section. Put me in your friend list and we can get a game going with the sliders. GRUNT 007.

[LBzrule]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Early on I have not had problems on offense. Ever since I played Freak, its like i play everyone now like I am playing freak....I think I am having Freakmares, LOL. I am not calm in the pocket with this squad. I feel like I gotta get rid of the ball QUICK every play because this Oline allows DT's to penetrate so fast. Its CRAZY MAN....CRAZY !!!!

He may very well have been experimenting on me last night. Fun games though. I learn something each game.

See that's the thing, because I play him so much and because of playing Madden, I'm not afraid of any blitz in this game. I played a guy last night that just drove me up the damn wall about the defense in this game. The 3rd and 4th down lapses really drove me up the wall. Here is a synopsis of the game. He was 8 of 12 on third downs and 3 of 4 on 4th downs. Now the kicker, they were all f'ing long yardage. And when I say long I mean 15 + yards. I really couldn't believe it. It was like my team gave up on the long yardage plays. Reminded me soo much of Madden 07 on 360. Same thing happens. 3rd and 4th and long = easy conversions. That's why guys just nano'd it up to compensate.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

We are starting with Hot Shot sliders. There are in the APF sliders section. Put me in your friend list and we can get a game going with the sliders. GRUNT 007.

Friends List is FULL.... Do you know from what Setting he created those Sliders from?

[HotShot232]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

It defaults to custom once you mess with sliders

[Disasterpiece]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

I'd still like to get one or two of you guys complaining about defense to play me so I can gauge if maybe I'm just playing some really bad offenses in my 130 online games.

[BigBlue]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Early on I have not had problems on offense. Ever since I played Freak, its like i play everyone now like I am playing freak....I think I am having Freakmares, LOL. I am not calm in the pocket with this squad. I feel like I gotta get rid of the ball QUICK every play because this Oline allows DT's to penetrate so fast. Its CRAZY MAN....CRAZY !!!!

He may very well have been experimenting on me last night. Fun games though. I learn something each game.

Tombsong, LBzRules:

Is Freaks gamertag Freak? I'd like to d'load his VIP and practice against it. I would probably attach his gamertag to the LEGENDS CPU team.

Thanks!
BigBlue

[HotShot232]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Ok after our first test everything looks to be EXCELLENT. Only thing might be lowering INT from 100. But like Grunt said that is debatable.

Grunt vs Hotshot Testing Balancing sliders
7 min Quarters

I used my created Saints. Was a very good game. The pursuit slider helped GREATLY in how the linbackers and blitzs get to the QB. No longer do the linebackers sit and wait for 2 secs before sending the heat. They come almost 1/2 a second after they read the play. 4 of my INTS came from throwing off my back foot OR throwing on the run with a NON Mobile QB. All INTS looked real, one was even one of the dreaded corner routes. The O-line was for sure MUCH more balanced as both of us were have to release ball MUCH quicker or get out the pocket. I also NEVER had to throw ball away before so I don't even know the button for it which could of dropped alot of those INTs. I was on the run and would just throw it up since i did not know how to get rid of it.

All in all much improved. Only thing I think we need to have other people test is if they feel the INT slider at 100 is much better. ALSO coverage at 80 had them acting MUCH more aggressive.


Passing
Brees ----46.1 QB rating 9/19 47% for 121 yards 1 TD 5 INTs 2 Sacks
O Donnel ---52.9 QB rating 10/26 38% for 137 yards 1 TD 1 INT 3 Sacks

Rushing
Duece ---10 for 33 yards 3.3 a carry 10 long 1 Brk tack
Bush ----6 for 23 yards 3.8 a carry 13 long 9 Brk
Icky ----10 for 45 yards 4.5 a carry 11 long 1 TD
Collins 7 for 9 yards 1.3 a carry 6 long

Receiving(just a couple of them)
Colston----- 4 for 95 yards 23.8 avg 1 TD 69 Long
Henderson----2 for 20 yards 15 long
Drayton------3 for 26 yards 11 long
Figuerson----3 for 79 yards 64 long 1 TD

Defense(just top stand out of each team)
Brian Young (DT) 3TkL 2 AST 2 Sacks
Banker (CB) 3 TKL 1 PD 3 INT 1TD

Lets get some others testing these out.

[Disasterpiece]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

BTW, you guys are welcome for the info on how to change the sliders. I don't remember seeing a thanks, no wonder people don't want to help out around here. This forum blows.