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  • XXstormmXX
    MVP
    • Aug 2013
    • 1751

    #106
    Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

    Even if this game comes out I'm still playing Madden over this... Because 2K used to be a great company but knowing them now, it will probably have some form of VC or server problems ruining it.
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    • NicVirtue
      Rookie
      • Oct 2011
      • 453

      #107
      Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

      Originally posted by XXstormmXX
      Even if this game comes out I'm still playing Madden over this... Because 2K used to be a great company but knowing them now, it will probably have some form of VC or server problems ruining it.
      What exactly do you play football games for? The football? Or the online?

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      • mestevo
        Gooney Goo Goo
        • Apr 2010
        • 19556

        #108
        Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

        I take it you don't know what he's talking about? I've never played an online game in NBA2k but my game was inaccessible due to server problems and there were some really poor decisions involving the required use of virtual currency in the franchise mode. It remains to be seen what they've learned from this year.

        Either way, the position is as silly as suggesting the inverse, that a 2k outing would automatically be better than Madden just for existing. The direction 2k has taken with virtual currency is certainly a cause for concern and in a 'budget' title like many seem to be hoping for it would certainly be reasonable to expect its inclusion - but I don't see the point of staking out a favorites/swearing off the other without the other title even existing.

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        • XXstormmXX
          MVP
          • Aug 2013
          • 1751

          #109
          Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

          Originally posted by NicVirtue
          What exactly do you play football games for? The football? Or the online?
          The football, I only play offline franchise and career mode in Madden and NCAA.
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          • Aggies7
            All Star
            • Jan 2005
            • 9495

            #110
            Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

            Originally posted by XXstormmXX
            The football, I only play offline franchise and career mode in Madden and NCAA.

            If 2K has a good franchise/career mode I'll take it over Madden in a heartbeat.
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            • johnnyg713
              MVP
              • Dec 2007
              • 1465

              #111
              Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

              I think one of the biggest questions is, how far behind will an alternative nfl game be? Competition is great but if a company like 2k puts out a game not up to par, then IMO that's a failure. I haven't bought madden in years but I know they do some things right as a football game. If the game makes big strides in gameplay this year it could be a situation where madden is too far ahead of their competition like nba 2k vs live. I know APF has a very solid football engine but madden has things like real time physics and from the trailer, very good graphics. This is a huge year for madden and I think the team knows that.

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              • NicVirtue
                Rookie
                • Oct 2011
                • 453

                #112
                Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

                Originally posted by mestevo
                I take it you don't know what he's talking about? I've never played an online game in NBA2k but my game was inaccessible due to server problems and there were some really poor decisions involving the required use of virtual currency in the franchise mode. It remains to be seen what they've learned from this year.

                Either way, the position is as silly as suggesting the inverse, that a 2k outing would automatically be better than Madden just for existing. The direction 2k has taken with virtual currency is certainly a cause for concern and in a 'budget' title like many seem to be hoping for it would certainly be reasonable to expect its inclusion - but I don't see the point of staking out a favorites/swearing off the other without the other title even existing.
                That;s certainly understandable. Though I personally look forward to a 2K football game strictly for the football. All that extra stuff is just a bonus to me. It's why I still play APF. But I may be in the minority.

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                • zzcoolj21
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 55

                  #113
                  Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

                  Incase people arnt aware, hidden in the MLB 2K12 files are the texture and model for a football. not trying to hype the situation but they are there.

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                  • FaceMask
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 847

                    #114
                    Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

                    Originally posted by johnnyg713
                    but madden has things like real time physics...
                    But the way they're executed in Madden is cringe-worthy. It's making male bodies do things they just weren't built to do, and don't look very masculine doing.

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                    • kjcheezhead
                      MVP
                      • May 2009
                      • 3118

                      #115
                      Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

                      Originally posted by mestevo
                      I take it you don't know what he's talking about? I've never played an online game in NBA2k but my game was inaccessible due to server problems and there were some really poor decisions involving the required use of virtual currency in the franchise mode. It remains to be seen what they've learned from this year.

                      Either way, the position is as silly as suggesting the inverse, that a 2k outing would automatically be better than Madden just for existing. The direction 2k has taken with virtual currency is certainly a cause for concern and in a 'budget' title like many seem to be hoping for it would certainly be reasonable to expect its inclusion - but I don't see the point of staking out a favorites/swearing off the other without the other title even existing.
                      I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with you. I seriously think that is a first. I would buy a new 2k game sight unseen based on how much I like the NBA 2k and APF,series but game breaking bugs happen. Also, if this news is true, madden fans can probably expect the best Madden we've seen in years. EA won't be cutting development funds to pay for the license and will be motivated to kill the new competitor on arrival.
                      I wouldn't write off or proclaim either game the better at this point. That said, I have a lingering hatred for how EA has handled exclusivity. I would pre order the 2k game and buy a used copy of madden a while later if it turned out to be the better game. I used to buy consoles just for football games until exclusivity and bad madden games changed that. It'll take a while to get over the resentment I have for EA at the moment but I don't pray for Madden' s demise either.

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                      • Caveman24
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1350

                        #116
                        Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

                        Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                        I hoped for years that EA would finally add NFL simulation into Madden, to no avail, so I can and will certainly hope this all turns out to happen, until proven otherwise.
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                        • Greenblood60
                          Rookie
                          • May 2014
                          • 132

                          #117
                          Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

                          Alas, we have some hope. Maybe there have been rumors or speculations in the past, about 2k coming out with a game, but ( for me ) having any hope concerning another football game other than Madden was simply unreasonable. There is no market for unlicensed games, and companies know that. Now, at least, it's possible for an NFL video game not named Madden to actually exist. This question is will it ever happen, and when will it happen ?

                          I believe, almost to the point of being certain, that EA's license is not exclusive anymore. If it was, we would've heard about exclusivity by now. Even though EA didn't put the news out, it always got out. FIFA just inked an exclusive deal, and it's not a secret.

                          Being that ( most likely ) EA doesn't have an exclusive license anymore, and the popularity of the NFL, there's is no doubt it my mind that some other company will try to put out a football game. The question simply is when.

                          Many people assume that there's no way 2k could come out with a game ( by August ) because the license just expired last February; that's obviously not a enough time to develop a football game. Here's the problem with that line of thinking: it's speculation. Yes, just like everything else posted in threads like this one, the assumption that 2k ( if they're intending on making a football game ) waited until February to ink a deal with the NFL for the license to make football games.

                          EA, around February, said the had an agreement with the NFL for a number of years. Now we know their deal expired after the Super Bowl. We also know that
                          EA has been developing Madden 15 probably since last September. Do we really think that EA was developing Madden 15 without a licensing deal in place ? Of course not, so if EA can ink a deal before the exclusive one expired, so they could start working on Madden 15, why couldn't 2k do the same ? Whose to say that 2k didn't get a license ( a non-exclusive one ) a couple of years ago so they could start working on 2k15 ?

                          Remember, in 2010 before the EA extended the deal for one year, 2k did approach the NFL regarding a licensing deal for the 2013 season. That shows an interest in getting back into the football gaming business, and that they were planning ahead get a game out ASAP. Why would that change just because EA extended the exclusive license for only one year ?

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                          • XXstormmXX
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1751

                            #118
                            Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

                            Originally posted by FaceMask
                            But the way they're executed in Madden is cringe-worthy. It's making male bodies do things they just weren't built to do, and don't look very masculine doing.
                            Agreed. If anything, Madden has to much physics, because it causes shoestring tackles and players who flop like ragdolls.
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                            • allBthere
                              All Star
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 5847

                              #119
                              Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

                              Originally posted by Greenblood60
                              Alas, we have some hope. Maybe there have been rumors or speculations in the past, about 2k coming out with a game, but ( for me ) having any hope concerning another football game other than Madden was simply unreasonable. There is no market for unlicensed games, and companies know that. Now, at least, it's possible for an NFL video game not named Madden to actually exist. This question is will it ever happen, and when will it happen ?

                              I believe, almost to the point of being certain, that EA's license is not exclusive anymore. If it was, we would've heard about exclusivity by now. Even though EA didn't put the news out, it always got out. FIFA just inked an exclusive deal, and it's not a secret.

                              Being that ( most likely ) EA doesn't have an exclusive license anymore, and the popularity of the NFL, there's is no doubt it my mind that some other company will try to put out a football game. The question simply is when.

                              Many people assume that there's no way 2k could come out with a game ( by August ) because the license just expired last February; that's obviously not a enough time to develop a football game. Here's the problem with that line of thinking: it's speculation. Yes, just like everything else posted in threads like this one, the assumption that 2k ( if they're intending on making a football game ) waited until February to ink a deal with the NFL for the license to make football games.

                              EA, around February, said the had an agreement with the NFL for a number of years. Now we know their deal expired after the Super Bowl. We also know that
                              EA has been developing Madden 15 probably since last September. Do we really think that EA was developing Madden 15 without a licensing deal in place ? Of course not, so if EA can ink a deal before the exclusive one expired, so they could start working on Madden 15, why couldn't 2k do the same ? Whose to say that 2k didn't get a license ( a non-exclusive one ) a couple of years ago so they could start working on 2k15 ?

                              Remember, in 2010 before the EA extended the deal for one year, 2k did approach the NFL regarding a licensing deal for the 2013 season. That shows an interest in getting back into the football gaming business, and that they were planning ahead get a game out ASAP. Why would that change just because EA extended the exclusive license for only one year ?
                              Good points,

                              part of me thinks the NFL wouldn't even bother and another thought I had was that 2K won't want to risk the $ producing NFL football with so many loyal madden fans, they may not think it's financially wise.

                              I haven't read through the entire thread, but where does this actually stand? Is there ANY news about 2k development at all? Is this all entirely speculation?
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                              • mestevo
                                Gooney Goo Goo
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19556

                                #120
                                Re: NFL 2k COMEBACK? License not exclusive?

                                Originally posted by allBthere
                                I haven't read through the entire thread, but where does this actually stand? Is there ANY news about 2k development at all? Is this all entirely speculation?
                                Someone said it would be at E3 on Youtube. That's it. Leaks all over the place at various reveals, slates of games potentially to be teased/revealed/etc at the big press events, but someone on Youtube is the lone source of this hope for the faithful this time around.

                                That's outside of the guys like HipHopGamer who just says a 2k game is coming every video hoping one day to be right.

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