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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #406
    Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

    ^Not even going to even bother taking this thread down that road so I'll leave that alone.

    Anyways, this article is nothing different from what other GMs have/are doing in regards to all players they consider bringing in, so I'm not really looking too much into this:


    GREEN BAY — Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson’s non-answer to a question about Michael Vick was more than just Ted being Ted.

    The team is doing thorough due diligence on the former NFL quarterback and has had legitimate discussions about the idea of signing him, according to sources.

    Vick, the former Atlanta Falcons quarterback, has been conditionally reinstated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell after completing a 23-month federal sentence for funding an illegal dogfighting ring.

    He is eligible to sign with any team and begin practicing immediately, and would be eligible to play starting in Week 6 of the regular season if he meets certain conditions.

    Asked Tuesday during the first of his weekly news conferences during training camp if there was any way he’d entertain signing Vick, Thompson answered with the non-committal reply he frequently uses when asked about potential personnel moves. His response made national headlines because it wasn’t a flat-out “no,” but it also didn’t shed much light on the Packers’ interest level.

    “Uh, what is the answer that we give to questions like this?” Thompson said. “We’re always looking to improve our team. We look at all options at all times. I wouldn’t care to speculate in terms of the odds or the percentages or anything like that.”

    Thompson was vague in follow-up questions, saying the Packers “look at everything” and “have had discussions about a large number of things. ... It doesn’t mean any more that we are likely to do it or less likely. It’s a routine that we go through. It’s automatic.”

    At least publicly, Packers president and CEO Mark Murphy tried to downplay the significance of Thompson’s comments.

    “I don’t see anything there. I don’t anticipate anything happening there,” Murphy said Wednesday.

    “How do you say it? Much ado about nothing.”

    There are no indications the team has acted on its interest yet.

    Of course, even considering signing Vick is far from routine. More than 20 of the league’s 32 teams have stated publicly that they’re not interested in signing Vick, largely because of the potential public relations backlash.

    Two years ago, Vick and the Falcons were the subject of massive protests by animal-rights activists. But in recent months, Vick met both in prison and in his home with Wayne Pacelle, president of the Humane Society of the United States. Last year, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals hinted it might work with a rehabilitated Vick, but that has not happened.

    Vick, 29, hasn’t played in the NFL since the 2006 season, as Goodell suspended him in August 2007 after he admitted to funding the dogfighting ring in his native Virginia. Vick served 18 months in federal prison as part of his sentence.

    According to the terms of Vick’s conditional reinstatement, he would be eligible to play in a team’s final two preseason games. After that, the team would have to decide whether to carry him on its 53-man roster during the first six weeks of the season, allowing Vick to practice and listing him among the inactives on game day, or place him on the reserve/suspended list, which would allow him to be around the team but prevent him from practicing during his suspension.

    A three-time Pro Bowl selection, Vick has a career 53.8 completion percentage and 75.7 career passer rating, having thrown 71 career touchdowns and 52 interceptions. He has 3,859 rushing yards and 21 rushing touchdowns, and ran for 1,039 yards and two TDs during the 2006 season.

    His career record as a starter is 40-30-1, including a historic NFC wild card playoff victory over the Packers on Jan. 4, 2003, at Lambeau Field.

    Once the highest paid-player in the NFL — and now bankrupt — Vick probably wouldn’t cost much financially.

    But the Packers obviously would subject themselves to a potentially intense fan reaction, and after last year’s Brett Favre-related circus, this year’s training camp has been hubbub-free so far. Thompson and his staff would have to weigh whether signing Vick would be worth the distraction.

    However, the NFL’s smallest market might provide the perfect setting for Vick’s comeback, allowing him to focus solely on football.

    The Packers remain high on both of their second-year backups, Matt Flynn and Brian Brohm, and wouldn’t want to release either player to make room for Vick. That would mean carrying four quarterbacks on the roster — two years ago, the team had just two, Favre and Rodgers — or trading one of the young QBs.

    Vick could add an intriguing and potentially explosive element to the Packers’ diversified offense, especially in the running game, where the coaches are integrating more power/man blocking schemes into their zone scheme and Vick could add a unpredictable “Wildcat” wrinkle.

    Vick’s passing skills would benefit from an offseason in coach Mike McCarthy’s quarterback school. One of Vick’s cousins is former Packers and New Orleans Saints quarterback Aaron Brooks, who went to his only Pro Bowl with McCarthy as his offensive coordinator in New Orleans.
    #RespectTheCulture

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    • lionsheart
      Rookie
      • Aug 2009
      • 12

      #407
      Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

      Vick deserves a second chance because he is better than half of the quarterbacks in the league now. To name a few Tony Romo, Matt Cassell,Tarvaris Jackson,Jason Campell,Eli Manning,49ers Quarterbacks,Detroit's Quarterbacks,Jake Delhomme and I can name a couple of more. Romo's security blacket is in Buffalo and we are really going to see the real Romo this season. Vick needs to work on his accuracy but with the right coaching that can be fixed. He has the arm and he has the legs to keep the play going if he has too. I know I would take him in a heartbeat and deep down alot of owners want him too but they are scared of how the fans will react to him.

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      • carterjt47
        Banned
        • Aug 2009
        • 150

        #408
        Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

        Michael Vick is a typical rich black guy who screwed up his life just like all the other black men out there(no offense)

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        • lionsheart
          Rookie
          • Aug 2009
          • 12

          #409
          Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

          Dont just single out black people. So you are saying that all the other races don't do the same thing.

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          • carterjt47
            Banned
            • Aug 2009
            • 150

            #410
            Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by lionsheart
            Dont just single out black people. So you are saying that all the other races don't do the same thing.
            No, Im saying the odds of a black man screwing up are really high compared to the other races,Believe what you want to believe,Im just calling it like i see it.........:wink:

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            • ncaa07jones
              Banned
              • Sep 2006
              • 269

              #411
              Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by carterjt47
              Michael Vick is a typical rich black guy who screwed up his life just like all the other black men out there(no offense)

              This post should be deleted, it's definitely going to change the topic of discussion.


              That post should read,

              "Michael Vick is a typical rich guy who screwed up his life just like all other rich men out there."

              Being black had nothing to do with the mistakes Vick made.

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              • carterjt47
                Banned
                • Aug 2009
                • 150

                #412
                Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ncaa07jones
                This post should be deleted, it's definitely going to change the topic of discussion.


                That post should read,

                "Michael Vick is a typical rich guy who screwed up his life just like all other rich men out there."

                Being black had nothing to do with the mistakes Vick made.
                W/E still,He was a wealthy man,who had a wealthy contract with the Atlanta Falcons & screwed it up because he did something so stupid...guys what if Payton Manning killed dogs instead of Mike Vick,(from a black man speaking) im pretty sure his consecquences would be much less than Vicks

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                • MrNFL_FanIQ
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 4926

                  #413
                  Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by carterjt47
                  No, Im saying the odds of a black man screwing up are really high compared to the other races,Believe what you want to believe,Im just calling it like i see it.........:wink:
                  *facepalm*

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                  • ncaa07jones
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 269

                    #414
                    Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by carterjt47
                    W/E still,He was a wealthy man,who had a wealthy contract with the Atlanta Falcons & screwed it up because he did something so stupid...guys what if Payton Manning killed dogs instead of Mike Vick,(from a black man speaking) im pretty sure his consecquences would be much less than Vicks
                    I agree that if it was someone else, someone like Payton Manning and Tom Brady it would be different heck I would even throw Donovan McNabb in there too.

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                    • carterjt47
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 150

                      #415
                      Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by ncaa07jones
                      I agree that if it was someone else, someone like Payton Manning and Tom Brady it would be different heck I would even throw Donovan McNabb in there too.
                      Terrel Owens also,I mean he has a big mouth on & off the field but he never does anything in a criminal matter.........except for that time he spit in the DeAngelo Hall's face..other than that,nothing really.............

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                      • pelly
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 153

                        #416
                        Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

                        Carterjt47 u r a idiot. So most black men that r rich do stupid things? Thats just dumb. Stupid people do stupid things, it has nothing to do with race. Now i will say that black players get more tv play when they screw up, compared to other races. That does not excuse wut they did, because i look at the crime not the color. If big ben was black, espn would have broke programming to anounce the rape allegations. Get a clue fool.

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                        • carterjt47
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 150

                          #417
                          Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by pelly
                          Carterjt47 u r a idiot. So most black men that r rich do stupid things? Thats just dumb. Stupid people do stupid things, it has nothing to do with race. Now i will say that black players get more tv play when they screw up, compared to other races. That does not excuse wut they did, because i look at the crime not the color. If big ben was black, espn would have broke programming to anounce the rape allegations. Get a clue fool.
                          pelly,u my friend are not an idiot.........ur a ******!!!!!!!!i didnt say it had anything to do with race,i was discribing mike vick's attribute,hes black isnt he,he's not purple,green,blue,rainbow,so shut up and calm down,ur panties are way toooooooo tight,so chill out,grab a six-pac and cool ur balls down,u emotionaly disturbed ******

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                          • carterjt47
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 150

                            #418
                            Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by pelly
                            Carterjt47 u r a idiot. So most black men that r rich do stupid things? Thats just dumb. Stupid people do stupid things, it has nothing to do with race. Now i will say that black players get more tv play when they screw up, compared to other races. That does not excuse wut they did, because i look at the crime not the color. If big ben was black, espn would have broke programming to anounce the rape allegations. Get a clue fool.
                            Sit Back, Relax, Grab a Beverage,cuz u must be on some anti-depressants like that killer from VIRGINIA TECH

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                            • deaduck
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 2389

                              #419
                              Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

                              Race has little to do with this situation.

                              In fact geography has way more to do with it.

                              Folks in rural areas tend to see the life and death cycle of animals a bit different than folks who's only contact with live animals is a family pet or two.

                              It in no way excuses what he did at all but it speaks to the outrage some have towards this versus the attitude of others.

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                              • ProfessaPackMan
                                Bamma
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #420
                                Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

                                I see the Maddenites have accidently leaked out over into here.
                                #RespectTheCulture

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