Michael Vick Discussion Thread

[deaduck]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

I honestly thought SOMEBODY would have signed him by now.

Is there something I'm missing that makes him "unsignable" outside of the media attention and the possible diminished skills?

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

I honestly thought SOMEBODY would have signed him by now.

Is there something I'm missing that makes him "unsignable" outside of the media attention and the possible diminished skills?

Nobody wants to sign him because of all that and because they don't even know when or if they'll be able to use him.

[deaduck]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

Nobody wants to sign him because of all that and because they don't even know when or if they'll be able to use him.

I just think there is about a half dozen or more squads that he'd be a nice upgrade for even if he's a limited backup. Is he maybe asking for too much?

[coogrfan]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

I honestly thought SOMEBODY would have signed him by now.

Is there something I'm missing that makes him "unsignable" outside of the media attention and the possible diminished skills?

Isn't that enough?

[deaduck]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

I'm just saying that if Cutler went down with a knee injury I'd much rather see Vick coming in the game than Caleb Hanie or Brett Basanez.

And I'm sure most teams are in the same boat.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

Vick's definitely not asking for too much. I'm pretty sure he'd just be happy to have a job at this point. But yeah, if it weren't for my Bucs already having like 15 QBs, i'd gladly take him.

[55]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

He is basically getting the Barry Bonds treatment and rightfully so.

[wwharton]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

I heard Mike Vick and the packers might be closing in on a deal

Digging the horse out of the ground and pulling it up to beat it some more I see. Just stop.

BTW, there's no chance Vick is going to the Packers. If you heard/read the actual response by Thompson you could tell he was purposely giving the generic answer. Plus they aren't one of the teams that are willing to cut one of the backups they already have. It's looking like he'll go play in the UFL which isn't a bad idea and probably will get him the most money right now anyway.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

I wouldn't exactly say there's no chance he'll sign him, but it's doubtful we will sign him(unless Rodgers goes down for the season, then I'd lead the way in trying to get him up here ASAP)This is the same man that was almost willing to bring in Randy Moss, who was probably the most hated player by the Packers and it's fans and he also went out and took a chance on Koren Robinson when he was released from the Vikings, even though he knew he wouldn't have him for long that year because he had just been arrested for driving drunk and speeding. Not sure what the players reaction would be because I haven't heard not even one of them make any comments about his situation at all.

I think Vick will get signed this year but I don't think nothing will occur until after about the 2nd week of Preseason. Jason LaCanfora of NFL Network made a good point yesterday that if he had been released back in February or March, he'd be on an NFL Roster by now but that because he got out so late, most teams weren't willing to make any changes on their rosters until at least Training Camp.

Cebby made a great point earlier in this thread about the whole "distraction" issue and that it is being overhyped by some. Whoever he signs with, the first few days it'll probably be rough, terrible as far as distractions goes but then after about the first week, it won't even be that big of an issue unless that team starts losing and then people will go looking for someone to blame and that someone will probably be Vick.

[wwharton]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

But I'm pretty sure Moss and Robinson were by the request of Favre (positive about Moss). Not to mention having Favre as the face of the franchise allows for bringing in some questionable character types underneath... not a luxary they have now. But most importantly, they've got two young guys behind Rodgers that have been working in the system a little and both have potential. I don't see them cutting or exposing one to be nabbed to pick up Vick, when they know Vick has no future with the team. That WR position is much different than QB in terms of that.

Either way, I wish I could find the transcript... it's clear that Vick is hardly a thought for the Packers and Thompson just chose to give the generic answer rather than saying absolutely not like the other teams. I believe he sighed first, then said something like "What's the standard answer I give to questions like this?" before making his statement. Injuries can change anything but if you can find the exact statement I think you'd agree the Packers don't even have Vick on the radar.

As for the rest of the teams I agree with you and Cebby, but I think he'll go to the UFL since the story is they're offering him more money than he'll make anywhere in the NFL right now, and to only play 6 games. It honestly seems like the best move for him.

[DW3]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

He is basically getting the Barry Bonds treatment and rightfully so.

Why is is rightfully so? Yea lets hate Barry Bonds, but lets cheer on Manny Ramirez right? Some of yall in this thread hold double standards man.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

But I'm pretty sure Moss and Robinson were by the request of Favre (positive about Moss). Not to mention having Favre as the face of the franchise allows for bringing in some questionable character types underneath... not a luxary they have now. But most importantly, they've got two young guys behind Rodgers that have been working in the system a little and both have potential. I don't see them cutting or exposing one to be nabbed to pick up Vick, when they know Vick has no future with the team. That WR position is much different than QB in terms of that.

Either way, I wish I could find the transcript... it's clear that Vick is hardly a thought for the Packers and Thompson just chose to give the generic answer rather than saying absolutely not like the other teams. I believe he sighed first, then said something like "What's the standard answer I give to questions like this?" before making his statement. Injuries can change anything but if you can find the exact statement I think you'd agree the Packers don't even have Vick on the radar.

As for the rest of the teams I agree with you and Cebby, but I think he'll go to the UFL since the story is they're offering him more money than he'll make anywhere in the NFL right now, and to only play 6 games. It honestly seems like the best move for him.

Favre was also partly behind the Moss thing as well, even though he was basically trying to use that as THE reason to come back(eventually he still did come back)but there were players in the locker room who actually weren't all that supportive of bringing a guy like Moss in either, especially when alot of them were still around from when he "mooned" our fans in that playoff game in 05 and they actually took offense to that.

I do know that Robinson wasn't at the request of Favre or that Favre even made a recommendation to bring him here, but he was brought in because of the depth issues we had at the time(Robert Ferguson was our 3rd WR but he was injured at the time and on crutches)so we would've been stuck with Driver, Jennings, and Ruvell Martin as our WR. I think you might be talking about when Favre was upset at the NFL because he felt the league turned it's back on Robinson when he was suspended for a year and was upset that he couldn't have any contact with his team at all during his suspension.

Again, I agree that it's unlikely that he will come here but I'm just not one to say that there's no chance he won't come here on the fact that with our GM, you never know what he's going to do at all in regards to this team.

[wwharton]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

Favre was also partly behind the Moss thing as well, even though he was basically trying to use that as THE reason to come back(eventually he still did come back)but there were players in the locker room who actually weren't all that supportive of bringing a guy like Moss in either, especially when alot of them were still around from when he "mooned" our fans in that playoff game in 05 and they actually took offense to that.

I do know that Robinson wasn't at the request of Favre or that Favre even made a recommendation to bring him here, but he was brought in because of the depth issues we had at the time(Robert Ferguson was our 3rd WR but he was injured at the time and on crutches)so we would've been stuck with Driver, Jennings, and Ruvell Martin as our WR. I think you might be talking about when Favre was upset at the NFL because he felt the league turned it's back on Robinson when he was suspended for a year and was upset that he couldn't have any contact with his team at all during his suspension.

Again, I agree that it's unlikely that he will come here but I'm just not one to say that there's no chance he won't come here on the fact that with our GM, you never know what he's going to do at all in regards to this team.

No I meant more than Robinson came in with Favre's blessing, and since Favre was the Packers, that was more than enough to derail any fan/media circus around his off the field issues. There isn't anyone on the team with that kind of power right now... plus the WR position is a bit different.

Either way, I agree, can't say never... but Thompson's comments were on par with everyone that said "no", just in a more pc way.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

Oh ok I gotcha now.

One of the guys that writes for the GB Press Gazette held a live chat online earlier today and basically said the samething and our Team President also said to not expect to see him in a Green and Gold uniform.

[realultimatepower]

Re: Michael Vick Discussion Thread

Is there something I'm missing that makes him "unsignable" outside of the media attention and the possible diminished skills?

The fact that he's a felon convicted of extreme cruelty to animals and that he bankrolled an illegal gambling ring and profited off the death of those animals perhaps?

I live in Richmond where the trial was held and have read the indictments and testimony as they came across my desk. Its absolutely inexcusable what he did to those dogs. They weren't just killed in fights. They tortured the animals and got jollies out of throwing in non-fighting dogs to watch them getting ripped to hell by the fighting dogs. Vick was involved with every aspect of the ring. He picked dogs for fights, he put up the money to cover the gambling, and he participated in the inhumane executions of the animals, yet people wonder why he's not been signed or deemed "unsignable"?

To me, its completely understandable why no team is seemingly touching him with a ten foot pole right now. He's a PR nightmare + the fact that he's been out of football for 2+ years. He's got a lot to prove on a lot of levels and its still "too soon" in a lot of peoples minds to fathom him being signed to their team. Most of the people I know are fine with him being reinstated, but I can name only 1 out of about 30 that actually want him on their favorite team.

I also think that its completely unfair to compare Vick to Stallworth and Little. While yes, both of them killed human beings, neither of them set out to do what they did and neither were as callous or as cruel as Vick has shown himself to be. IMO, the only comparable case to Vick is Rae Carruth. While Carruth's crime is far worse (Im not equating them in terms of prison sentences), its more comparing the the mindset of the criminal. Stallworth and Little were just drunk/high careless idiots. Vick knew exactly what he was doing.

Yes, Vick has served his time and deserves to be out of prison. However, I feel no remorse for him whatsoever if no team signs him. Personally, I hope he goes to the UFL, sucks, and is never seen on an NFL field again. I'm no PETA freak or animal advocate, but reading what he did, in detail, is absolutely disgusting. If Vick does make it back onto an NFL field, I hope he can redeem himself, but I will not feel one iota of remorse for him if he never does get signed.

As someone said earlier, the Barry Bonds treatment is exactly what he's getting. If he is signed, it will be a team that is absolutely desperate or addicted to any type of publicity (Im looking at you Dan Snyder), or desperate for a QB, but I'd bet Gus Frerotte, Brooks Bollinger (ha) or Brian Griese would get a call before Vick.