Brett Favre=Mr. Overrated (Now officially back)

[steelcurtain311]

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He threw the INT that resulted in the Giants getting in position and kicking the GW FG. But again, as much as you're trying so hard, which I would like to congratulate you for doing BTW, he did NOT lose the game for us. I mean hell, Ben Roethlisberger threw an Interception against the Pats in 04 in which Rodney Harrison ran back for a TD, but I guess he's THE reason the Steelers lost that game too, right?

So again, Al Harris and Mike McCarthy would like a word with you. They're both in the last room on the right, 3 Doors down.

No, I would say the fact that he was a rookie QB going against the best team in the NFL, and the fact that the best team in the NFL were calling out his plays since they had all of our signals on tape.

Brett threw an idiotic pick to lose the game in overtime. How in the world is that not his fault? Al Harris didn't throw the pick. Generally when your team is in overtime and your QB throws a ball directly to a DB with the game on the line, it's his fault. But I guess that was just Brett having fun and it couldn't possibly be his fault.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Your hypocrisy in your post is amazing. Please keep em coming!

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I don't think it's fair to blame all of that on Favre or any QB though. If your team lacks the talent at the running back position you're not going to run the ball effectively and consequently you're not going to run it as much. In Favres case the few times his teams did feature a solid healthy running back they were among the leaders in rushing.

If you have a great quarterback, but mediocre running backs then your offense will be pass heavy. That isn't anyone being a ball hog it's just playing to your strengths.




He threw an interception in overtime that resulted in NYG winning the game on a field goal. So in that sense you can say he lost it.
Maybe he should have just not scored both of GB's touchdowns so he never would have been in a position to lose it in overtime.

Or maybe he shouldn't have played in the game at all. I mean everyone knows Aaron Rodgers would've gave us a much better chance to win that game than Favre would have.

[steelcurtain311]

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Well, Aaron Rodgers may not have Brett's TD numbers, but he also doesn't have his game-losing INT numbers either. So you take what you can with him.

[CW McGraw]

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I tend not to agree with guys like Steelcurtain311, but Favre blew the 07 NFCCG game against the Giants. Why is it that when Dan Marino's kicker misses a 40 yard game winning field goal to Marino is considered the greatest choker in NFL history while when Favre throws a pick six in OT to lose the game it's everyone else's fault? My problem with Brett Favre is how much of a free pass he's given for his **** ups while other QBs are criticized for things completely out of their control.

[steelcurtain311]

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Media-driven QB's are always given a pass. Peyton never gets blasted for being a constant playoff choker. Tony Romo is like one of the worst QB's in the league, yet he still gets massive amounts of hype from the media somehow.

That's what was so annoying about Bret during his later seasons. He was such an insane egomaniac, yet the media still tried to play him up as "the guy who just wants to play football and have fun." When the guy did everything in his power to try and destroy the Packers franchise, and then goes to NY and alienates their locker room and blows their season.

The guy was as much of a circus as TO, yet TO is the bad guy.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Well, Aaron Rodgers may not have Brett's TD numbers, but he also doesn't have his game-losing INT numbers either. So you take what you can with him.

Did you really just....wow. Just wow.

I tend not to agree with guys like Steelcurtain311, but Favre blew the 07 NFCCG game against the Giants. Why is it that when Dan Marino's kicker misses a 40 yard game winning field goal to Marino is considered the greatest choker in NFL history while when Favre throws a pick six in OT to lose the game it's everyone else's fault? My problem with Brett Favre is how much of a free pass he's given for his **** ups while other QBs are criticized for things completely out of their control.

I mean if you want to be technical, then yes his interception he threw in OT to the Giants set them up for them to win the game(which goes back to what I said earlier, QB gets all the credit/blame when their team wins/losses but in Favre's case he gets blame regardless). But let me ask you this?

Is it his fault that Al Harris was getting beat like a drum by Plaxico Burress that the Giants were moving the ball up the field on us at will?

Is it Favre's fault that every series for us was the same in which it was a 3 and out everytime because Coaches were calling nothing but pass plays, when they got to where they were by running the ball?

Is it Favre's fault that Eli Manning was throwing precise passes on the money to his WRs and he could sit in the pocket all day and not have to worry about any type of pass rush?

Like I said earlier, if you think that's the case then you must also think Ben Roethlisberger blew the AFC Title Game against the Patriots when he threw that INT to Rodney Harrison which he ran back for a TD.

And again, if you listen to the Media(BSPN being the main culprit)hype and build him up off of every single thing he does, then yes I can see why and understand why people would think he's overrated. The way they hyped him up, you would've thought he had 6 Super Bowls and 10 MVPs but he doesn't. But as far as numbers go, there's no way you can throw the words choker, overrated, and loser around him. Hell, I've already thrown out facts to debunk those arguments but your friend here likes to ignore facts for some reason.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Media-driven QB's are always given a pass. Peyton never gets blasted for being a constant playoff choker. Tony Romo is like one of the worst QB's in the league, yet he still gets massive amounts of hype from the media somehow.

That's what was so annoying about Bret during his later seasons. He was such an insane egomaniac, yet the media still tried to play him up as "the guy who just wants to play football and have fun." When the guy did everything in his power to try and destroy the Packers franchise, and then goes to NY and alienates their locker room and blows their season.

The guy was as much of a circus as TO, yet TO is the bad guy.

So again, seems like YOUR issue is more with the MEDIA than it is Favre himself. I mean last time I checked, Favre didn't go around pointing fingers and blaming others for losses in games unlike TO did. But I guess that's all apart of BSPN's master plan: To takeover the World and blame TO for every single ****ed up thing in the World.

[Altimus]

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I come into the football forum and I see the Ralph Wilson thread and this.

Time to go to bed. Wow.

[Fox1994]

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And again, if you listen to the Media(BSPN being the main culprit)hype and build him up off of every single thing he does, then yes I can see why and understand why people would think he's overrated. The way they hyped him up, you would've thought he had 6 Super Bowls and 10 MVPs but he doesn't. But as far as numbers go, there's no way you can throw the words choker, overrated, and loser around him. Hell, I've already thrown out facts to debunk those arguments but your friend here likes to ignore facts for some reason.

I'm just saying, I thought 'overrated' was a term generally used to describe the media perception of a player. By extent, if Favre's overrated, it's because regardless of how well or poorly he plays the media blows it out of proportion.

So, you can't exactly write-off the media hype, because that's what overrated players have.

It's harder to measure whether or not a player is overrated by fans, because some fans like certain players and dislike others.

[dragon4ever]

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Brett Favre folds in big games, like the season against DAL and his meltdown against NY. He throws a ton of interceptions and throws them at the worst times. He has NEVER won a game he wasn't supposed to or engineered an upset or game saving drive. His lone Super Bowl title was won on special teams by Desmond Howard. Name me one big game that HE has led GB to a win, one upset he engineered, I can't think of any.

[JBH3]

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Brett Favre folds in big games, like the season against DAL and his meltdown against NY. He throws a ton of interceptions and throws them at the worst times. He has NEVER won a game he wasn't supposed to or engineered an upset or game saving drive. His lone Super Bowl title was won on special teams by Desmond Howard. Name me one big game that HE has led GB to a win, one upset he engineered, I can't think of any.

Favre's Greatest Moments

*SEE* #'s 2, 3, 5, 6 and 8 so that you know YOU'RE wrong.

I suppose it was Favre's fault too that TO caught that pass in the endzone that ended the '98 season for GB.

Mind you the Pack were only in the game because of:

The score (TO's catch) capped a nine-play, 76-yard drive after Brett Favre put the Packers up 27-23 on a 15-yard touchdown pass to Antonio Freeman with 1:56 remaining.

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[ANDROMADA 1]

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I think Brett is a great qb..HOF for sure.Overrated mabe, but so are a lot of NFL players and at the end of the day He still did some amazing things with the football.

[Fox1994]

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^hmph. That's honest.

[raidersbball20]

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I'm not going to lie, I am a pack fan and have loved brett favre, like he was the qb for my team ever since I was little and that 2007 season was amazing. I was really disappointed with the championship game but it was really weird. It seemed like the packers were dominated the whole game except for a big play or two. And when I thought it was over the Giants missed a couple easy FGs and i thought it was destined for the Packers to win, but when Favre threw that pick I just couldn't live with it. When he retired I was glad he ended it on a good season. When he started coming back I just plain hated him and when he was going to go to the vikings I didnt know if I could like him again. I am starting to warm up to him again and now that I think of it, yes, he did have some bad years. But his play in the mid-90s and 2007 was just incredible. Like his TD in the mile high miracle. I think he is top 10. Putting your team on the scoreboard is one of the most important things in football and that's what he was good at. People can argue about the INTs but he still is top 10.