Best runningback of all time

[mKoz26]

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I like how he played the "Cowboys fans understand" card. Like their opinions are more educated than ours. Okay.

[ZB9]

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Considering Dallas lack of big passing numbers in the past, being 4th on that list, doesn't mean a whole lot. That's why Tony Romo is already shattering so many Dallas passing records. Even Aikman's numbers as many SB's as they won, really put up pedestrian passing numbers.

"lack of big passing numbers" for this era maybe. Romo is shattering passing records just as a lot of QBs and WRs are in this pass happy era, but it would be pretty ridiculous to compare this era to the era in which Staubach, Hayes, Pearson, Hill, etc. played

regardless, Emmitt Smith being 4th all time in receptions for one of the most successful franchises in NFL history is good for any era

Not to mention averaged less than 7 yards a reception.

and I didnt put him in the "running after catch" category did I

There are plenty of backs who were better receivers than Emmitt. Guys like Ronnie Harmon, or Darrin Nelson made plays in the passing game, Emmitt simply was not capable of. What about Tony Galbreath, or Tony Nathan? Keith Byars, Herschel Walker. All were more capable receivers than Emmitt. Not better runners but better in the pass game.

sure, but my list only included all time great running backs

maybe you should make a list

[mKoz26]

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and I didnt put him in the "running after catch" category did I

So would you say Brandon Marshall has some of the best hands in the league today?

[ZB9]

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I like how he played the "Cowboys fans understand" card. Like their opinions are more educated than ours. Okay.

why dont you try backing up your opinions with some facts...

[ZB9]

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Barry Sanders also played in an offense that had multiple WR's getting 80,90, 100 catch seasons. Can only spread the passing game so far.

yes true

Not that Barry was a particularly good receiver.

again, true

[bkrich83]

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"lack of big passing numbers" for this era maybe. Romo is shattering passing records just as a lot of QBs and WRs are in this pass happy era, but it would be pretty ridiculous to compare this era to the era in which Staubach, Hayes, Pearson, Hill, etc. played

regardless, Emmitt Smith being 4th all time in receptions for one of the most successful franchises in NFL history is good for any era

and I didnt put him in the "running after catch" category did I

sure, but my list only included all time great running backs

maybe you should make a list

LOL. He's top 5 at catching a swing pass and going nowhere. Awesome.

Dallas passing numbers no matter the era are pretty pedestrian. Until now they have never really had a prolific passing game, no matter when it was. If you look at their top all time receiving leaders outside of Irvin none of them really put up big career numbers. Jason Witten is already #2 on that list.

If you want to say he's one of the top receiving RB's of all time. You just proved Mkoz's point.

[ZB9]

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So would you say Brandon Marshall has some of the best hands in the league today?

I dont know

what does that have to do with the price of cheese in France

[mKoz26]

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I dont know

what does that have to do with the price of cheese in France

More receptions = better hands.

[ZB9]

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LOL. He's top 5 at catching a swing pass and going nowhere. Awesome.

averaging 5 - 7 yards per catch is not exactly "going nowhere" with what Dallas was using those swing passes for...and his career long reception was 86 yards

catching those swing passes in the flat caused quite a few problems for defenses and it's pretty obvious as to why

Dallas passing numbers no matter the era are pretty pedestrian. Until now they have never really had a prolific passing game, no matter when it was. If you look at their top all time receiving leaders outside of Irvin none of them really put up big career numbers. Jason Witten is already #2 on that list.

pedestrian compared to who? the Bears?

you stated that Walter Payton is one of the best catchers of the football from RB position, and I agree (simply forgot to put him on my uber scientific list)...take a gander at Payton's career receptions numbers

If you want to say he's one of the top receiving RB's of all time. You just proved Mkoz's point.

his numbers say Emmitt Smith was one of the best among the all time great running backs at catching the football

that you are trying to discredit those numbers proves my point

[ZB9]

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More receptions = better hands.

combined with few drops, yes it can

we are talking about running backs though

[mKoz26]

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combined with few drops, yes it can

we are talking about running backs though

But that wasn't your point.

[bkrich83]

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averaging 5 - 7 yards per catch is not exactly "going nowhere" with what Dallas was using those swing passes for...and his career long reception was 86 yards

catching those swing passes in the flat caused quite a few problems for defenses and it's pretty obvious as to why

pedestrian compared to who? the Bears?

you stated that Walter Payton is one of the best catchers of the football from RB position, and I agree (simply forgot to put him on my uber scientific list)...take a gander at Payton's career receptions numbers

his numbers say Emmitt Smith was one of the best among the all time great running backs at catching the football

that you are trying to discredit those numbers proves my point

Payton average over 9 yards a reception and score more TD's on less receptions.

Numbers aside, Payton was simply a more gifted receiver. I am not sure how that can be disputed.

[ZB9]

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Payton average over 9 yards a reception and score more TD's on less receptions.

Numbers aside, Payton was simply a more gifted receiver. I am not sure how that can be disputed.

yes Emmitt averaged more catches per season than Payton. However, it is true that Payton ran a wider variety of routes. Overall, Payton was a bigger receiving threat that Smith....but when it comes to simply catching the ball, Smith caught everything thrown to him and it those swing passes were thrown to him quite a bit.

Perhaps we look at that category differently. Im talking about simply having good hands and catching the ball from the running back spot (whether it be little swing passes or whatever), not rac ability or route running ability.

[mKoz26]

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yes Emmitt averaged more catches per season than Payton, however it is true that Payton ran a wider variety of routes. Overall, Payton was a bigger receiving threat that Smith. However, when it comes to simply catching the ball, Smith caught everything thrown to him and it those swing passes were thrown to him quite a bit.

Perhaps we look at that category differently. Im talking about simply having good hands and catching the ball from the running back spot (whether it be little swing passes or whatever), not rac ability or route running ability.

And just using catches as the stat to judge hands is very short-sighted. Hence my Brandon Marshall comparison.

[ZB9]

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And just using catches as the stat to judge hands is very short-sighted. Hence my Brandon Marshall comparison.

the category was called "catching"...