Official CBA Thread

[scarface107]

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Yeah, I actually got my hopes up a bit as well. I knew better than to do so, but I was disappointed when I went to NFL.com and saw the temporary stay was granted. Oh well, not like we've missed anything so far.

If it's September and we still have no football I'll be a bit upset, but until then I don't see a point in wasting energy getting pissed off and upset about it.

last I checked we have missed out on the ability to trade players and free agency this offseason. It is a mess this whole thing is pathetic had teams been able to trade and pick up free agents the draft probably would go alot quicker for most teams does that stuff now get tacked on to the end of the off season or what is the deal I mean will there be enough time for free agency when this thing is finally over assuming it will be?

[Hooe]

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This opinion article by former NFL player Nate Jackson certainly puts an interesting light on the situation we have now.

[mestevo]

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NFL submitted their side today for the permanent stay, arguing that there is no irreparable harm to the league year until a number of months from now, citing some players who routinely skip offseason workouts and the public comments from a number of players who have said 'we should have a lockout every year'.

[wwharton]

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NFL submitted their side today for the permanent stay, arguing that there is no irreparable harm to the league year until a number of months from now, citing some players who routinely skip offseason workouts and the public comments from a number of players who have said 'we should have a lockout every year'.

I hope they came with more than that. I'm sure the rookies don't think there should be a lock out every year, or the QBs waiting in limbo to find out what their new team will be and how fast they'll be able to learn the playbook. The teams with new coaches probably don't feel that way either. It won't take a genius to see how silly those statements are.

[da ThRONe]

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I hope they came with more than that. I'm sure the rookies don't think there should be a lock out every year, or the QBs waiting in limbo to find out what their new team will be and how fast they'll be able to learn the playbook. The teams with new coaches probably don't feel that way either. It won't take a genius to see how silly those statements are.

Yeah this sounds like a 5th grade debate team argument. They really plan on winning with a "He said she said" defense?

[Hooe]

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I hope they came with more than that. I'm sure the rookies don't think there should be a lock out every year, or the QBs waiting in limbo to find out what their new team will be and how fast they'll be able to learn the playbook. The teams with new coaches probably don't feel that way either. It won't take a genius to see how silly those statements are.

Not to mention that there are guys due bonuses as soon as the 2011 league year starts, the most extreme example being $750,000 owed to Jets lineman D'Brickashaw Ferguson. Postponing the conducting of NFL business prevents Brick from collecting that money, which I'm going to guess doesn't affect him a great deal but could affect other less-well-off players signficantly.

[mestevo]

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All from Twitter:

Eighth circuit grants the NFL's request for an expedited hearing. Will hear the appeal starting June 3 in St. Louis.

NFL's appeal brief due on May 9. Players' reply due on May 20. NFL's reply to that due May 26

The June 3 appeal hearing, in St. Louis before Judges Bye, Colloton, and Benton, will include 30-minute oral arguments from both sides.

The ruling on a stay pending appeal is still outstanding, even if it were denied the lockout could return yet again if the NFL wins the 6/3 hearing.

Typically something filed now wouldn't get a hearing until Oct-Dec... and would have 40 days for opening brief. Hearing is in a month and NFL has 6 days, every element of the proceedings should be expedited, including the judgement.

One of the reasons against granting an emergency stay pending appeal by the lone dissenting judge was due to the length of the appeals process... that's no longer an issue, could make the process less irreparable and more reason to grant the stay pending the 6/3 appeal.

[mestevo]

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From Albert Breer on Twitter:
Sources: NFLPA is bracing for the NFL to be granted a full stay of the injunction to lift NFL lockout until the appeal is heard. Have heard the rumblings all morning. What full stay would mean: The lockout is on until 8th circuit hears case on June 3, rules thereafter. Full stay would, in essence, eliminate offseason programs for '11. Generally those wrap in mid-June, which is earliest we could get ruling.

[N51_rob]

I can see myself spending $0 on the NFL this season. No games, no jerseys, no NFL RedZone, no supporting the various auctions. The only NFL dollars I may spend this year are on Madden and that's not 100%.

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[mestevo]

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I can see myself spending $0 on the NFL this season. No games, no jerseys, no NFL RedZone, no supporting the various auctions. The only NFL dollars I may spend this year are on Madden and that's not 100%.

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Pfft, that's what Yukijersey is for, sports apparel is overpriced already.

[N51_rob]

Can't bring myself to by knockoff, bootleg stuff.

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[mestevo]

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When you're a Chiefs fan and you don't have anyone on the team that may be worth spending the money on since Tony G left it makes buying knockoffs a little easier.

[wco81]

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Irreparable harm must not be a standard.

Free agents and some other vets are in limbo. Some players may not keep their jobs after this is all over. Some players are not being paid roster bonuses they were due.

If they have a season this year, quality of play may not be the same and there may be more injuries.

Are the owners still demanding 18 games or was that merely a bargaining chip to get concessions? It doesn't appear there is as much talk about that any more.

[N51_rob]

I always get burned. You should see my jersey graveyard of skins authentic jerseys. Champ Bailey, Jason Campbell, Lauvernes Coles, Lavar Arrington, Devin Thomas. I'll never learn. Only one still current is Laron Landry.

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[mestevo]

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Irreparable harm must not be a standard.

Free agents and some other vets are in limbo. Some players may not keep their jobs after this is all over. Some players are not being paid roster bonuses they were due.

If they have a season this year, quality of play may not be the same and there may be more injuries.

Are the owners still demanding 18 games or was that merely a bargaining chip to get concessions? It doesn't appear there is as much talk about that any more.

18 games has been off the table since early March. Almost everything you described isn't irreparable though. Workout bonuses and roster bonuses can all be compensated if it's determined appropriate.

Once things are said and done, things like roster bonuses and workout bonuses will probably be included in the new settlement. If everything goes the NFL's way an abbreviated offseason schedule will probably be set and agreed upon by the reconstituted NFLPA and the NFL. If they didn't, then a lengthy line will form to file grievances, and it's in everyone's best interest to get in front of that.

The only irreparable harm IMO revolves around the maturation of rookies.