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  • PeoplesChampGB
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    • May 2012
    • 6003

    #15166
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    It's the integrity of the game at stake. Of course it is a big deal. A competitive advantage, no matter how small, is still an advantage.
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    • redsox4evur
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2013
      • 18169

      #15167
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Originally posted by PeoplesChampGB
      It's the integrity of the game at stake. Of course it is a big deal. A competitive advantage, no matter how small, is still an advantage.
      OK so you are saying if the NFL went after Rodgers for overinflating his balls and suspended him for 4 games you would be OK with it?

      And Jare you are so right. None of us are giving up our own cellphones to our employer unless they get a subpoena for whatever they want it for.
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      • King_B_Mack
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        • Jan 2009
        • 24450

        #15168
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by The JareBear
        Man, yall don't know what I would do if my employer asked me for my cell phone. What would you tell your boss if they asked you to hand over your cell phone?

        NFL has zero right to any players personal property. Also, there isn't a rule in a book against players destroying their personal property.

        To quote the deadspin article I read just now, or I guess paraphrase, the NFL is trying to sway public opinion and going with the "lack of a smoking gun is the smoking gun" approach. This whole situation is absurd.

        The cheating was absurd, the fallout after was absurd, an Goodell's handling of it all is absurd. I'm over it. I wish Tom would just take the four games and we can all move on. He's definitely not been very smart about all this. I wish he just said "yeah it happened, my bad" and moved on.

        Compared to PEDs and violently assaulting women, I really don't think this is that big of a deal. Funny how it's just cool to hate certain guys.
        I recall reading and hearing a few times during the course of this and someone was on the radio today that said Wells never even asked for Brady's phone. They explained to him that he didn't even have to turn over the phone but just provide copies of the texts with the equipment dudes and he refused that as well.

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        • PeoplesChampGB
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          • May 2012
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          #15169
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Yes I would. Cheating is cheating. It would be an embarrassment. Idk why some fans don't get it.
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          • jWILL253
            You know why I'm here...
            • Jun 2008
            • 1611

            #15170
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Also, employers are allowed to police themselves.

            Yes, it is true that you DON'T have to turn over private property to your employers during an internal investigation. But 1) Don't expect to keep your job, and 2) You don't get to agree to cooperate in an investigation, then not only proceed not to, but also hinder the investigation by obstructing & destroying potential evidence.

            Dems the breaks, bruh.
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            • KingV2k3
              Senior Circuit
              • May 2003
              • 5881

              #15171
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by PeoplesChampGB
              It's the integrity of the game at stake. Of course it is a big deal. A competitive advantage, no matter how small, is still an advantage.
              To date, the Patriots and Brady have behaved as if this situation exists in a vacuum between the league offices and them...

              In actuality, there are 31 other multi billion dollar entities that would rather see the integrity (and by extension, the marketability) of the league as a whole served...

              NBA had a huge perception problem in the late 70s, MLB after the steroid era and NHL after the lockout...

              NFL ain't risking ANY version of that over this...

              Those other 31 owners have as much of a stake in this as the league office, the Pats and Brady and I'm sure they'd rather that he / they stop trying to put their agendas above what's in the best interests of the league as a whole...

              Like it or not, Brady didn't just lie to league office, he's lied to his teammates, coaches, franchise, fanbase and the public at large...

              Not becoming behavior for the "face of the league"...

              Period.

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              • BleacherBum2310
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                • Aug 2010
                • 7107

                #15172
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                It's not a big deal. I'm just tired of hearing about it.

                of how this affects this legacy i mean really come on with that stuff.
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                • mestevo
                  Gooney Goo Goo
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19556

                  #15173
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Yeah, this isn't exactly a 'if my employer...' situation unless you've got a collectively bargained conduct and labor policy.

                  Brady has reportedly given the Union the OK to file in federal court.

                  So next up is a venue fight and either a quick dismissal or a decision on an injunction to stay the suspension.
                  Last edited by mestevo; 07-28-2015, 05:41 PM.

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                  • PeoplesChampGB
                    All Star
                    • May 2012
                    • 6003

                    #15174
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    And I am tired I hearing "we'll, Rodgers admitted he overinflates his footballs..." Okay. If you and I are both speeding and you get pulled over, saying that I sped too in court would not help your case.
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                    • jWILL253
                      You know why I'm here...
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 1611

                      #15175
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Originally posted by mestevo
                      Yeah, this isn't exactly a 'if my employer...' situation unless you've got a collectively bargained conduct and labor policy.

                      Brady has reportedly given the Union the OK to file in federal court.

                      So next up is a venue fight and either a quick dismissal or a decision on an injunction to stay the suspension.
                      Here we go.

                      Brady won't ruin his legacy by cheating, but by the constant petulance on display from him.
                      jWILL

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                      • PeoplesChampGB
                        All Star
                        • May 2012
                        • 6003

                        #15176
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        You're right. He won't ruin his legacy but he did move down on the list of my top three QBs of all time. He is now third.
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                        • mattsb84
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 378

                          #15177
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          I dont think many of you would willingly turnover personal items to your employer to assist them in proving their case against you.

                          Should have left it at the team level with the fines/loss of picks and moved on. Now we're going on 7 months with this circus with no end in sight...nonsense.

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                          • PeoplesChampGB
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                            • May 2012
                            • 6003

                            #15178
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            If I had nothing to hide I gladly would and get it over with. It would be a distraction for the team, and being the leader of the team I would put my ego aside for the betterment of the franchise.
                            Last edited by PeoplesChampGB; 07-28-2015, 05:53 PM.
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                            • KingV2k3
                              Senior Circuit
                              • May 2003
                              • 5881

                              #15179
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Originally posted by mattsb84
                              I dont think many of you would willingly turnover personal items to your employer to assist them in proving their case against you.

                              Should have left it at the team level with the fines/loss of picks and moved on. Now we're going on 7 months with this circus with no end in sight...nonsense.
                              Brady's lawyer was GIVEN the opportunity to parse out whatever texts THEY decided were relevant to the case and REFUSED...

                              The league was willing to make this go away at that point by accepting whatever was given to them...

                              The "nonsense" is courtesy Tom Brady / Don Ye and folks who don't take the time to learn the actual facts of the case...

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                              • MajorSupreme
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 1559

                                #15180
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Geez Tom, was it so hard to just admit to it from the start and say that no one ever said you couldn't? Or better yet not do it at all? I still love Tom Brady and I always will, but man this has gone too far.

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