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**Speedy** · 12-02-2016, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by TracerBullet

The block in question:

I believe most everybody here remembers this hit from the Super Bowl:

No different, right? It's a blind side block.

Are these being called targeting in CFB or is it purely helmet to helmet hits?

**PeoplesChampGB** · 12-02-2016, 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by RJTurneR

I can only assume it's the latter going by the details so far. It's hard for me to figure out how someone like that can react in such a way but we're all very different people I guess.

It's always difficult for me to wrap my head around something like this, given gun control isn't such an issue over here. Pretty scary just thinking anyone can have a gun and use it in anger.

Crap like that happens sometimes. We can't regulate anything 100% to keep it out of people's hands. We would need to be able to tell the future in order to achieve that. IDK, I guess it's just where you live. I live in a state with really lax gun control and people walk around with guns strapped to them all of the time, concealed and open carry and nobody bats an eye. Doesn't bother me in the least. In fact, I am strapped most of the time as well.

**kehlis** · 12-02-2016, 12:28 AM

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Yea, can we please not get into a controversial TOS topic please.

**PeoplesChampGB** · 12-02-2016, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by kehlis

Yea, can we please not get into a controversial TOS topic please.

No problem. :-)

**sycodmn** · 12-02-2016, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by Speedy

I believe most everybody here remembers this hit from the Super Bowl:

No different, right? It's a blind side block.

Are these being called targeting in CFB or is it purely helmet to helmet hits?

I'm fairly certain targeting only applies to the head. If you lead into the shoulder, you're fine.

That hit from '98 would still be legal today, imo.

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**ProfessaPackMan** · 12-02-2016, 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by Speedy

I believe most everybody here remembers this hit from the Super Bowl:

No different, right? It's a blind side block.

Are these being called targeting in CFB or is it purely helmet to helmet hits?

I don't remember anything about that game.

It doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.

**TheShizNo1** · 12-02-2016, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by Speedy

I believe most everybody here remembers this hit from the Super Bowl:

No different, right? It's a blind side block.

Are these being called targeting in CFB or is it purely helmet to helmet hits?

McCaffrey would've been flagged for taunting.

Originally posted by ggsimmonds

I don't think it was a horrible example, and saying it is a horrible example will not convince me it was. Cheesers use game mechanics in unintended ways to exploit the game to their benefit. The Ravens used a loophole to exploit the rulebook in their favor. I think it is fairly straightforward.

How is stating that it is just a damn videogame not implying that I am putting undue importance on it?

Yeah, if this is the direction you're going, I have no idea how to argue about glitches in real life.

**AUChase** · 12-02-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by Speedy

I believe most everybody here remembers this hit from the Super Bowl:

No different, right? It's a blind side block.

Are these being called targeting in CFB or is it purely helmet to helmet hits?

The block itself isn't really being called for targeting.. just helmet to helmet if the contact is there and even that is still hit or miss (no pun intended).

**ggsimmonds** · 12-02-2016, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by TheShizNo1

Yeah, if this is the direction you're going, I have no idea how to argue about glitches in real life.

It should not be this difficult to grasp.

Real life Ravens used an exploit in the rulebook to their benefit.
Madden cheesers use exploits in the game mechanics/programming to their benefit.
I consider both to be loopholes. From wikipedia: A loophole is an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system, such as a law or security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the purpose, implied or explicitly stated, of the system.

Here is why I think it is in violation of the spirit of the game and why they should change the rule in the offseason:
1. Ravens intentionally committed a penalty(s) and not only were not punished for it they were rewarded.
2. What could the Bengals do in that situation to defend against this tactic? I don't see a recourse for them. You guys tell me what they could have done.

**TracerBullet** · 12-02-2016, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by ggsimmonds

It should not be this difficult to grasp.

Real life Ravens used an exploit in the rulebook to their benefit.
Madden cheesers use exploits in the game mechanics/programming to their benefit.
I consider both to be loopholes. From wikipedia: A loophole is an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system, such as a law or security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the purpose, implied or explicitly stated, of the system.

Here is why I think it is in violation of the spirit of the game and why they should change the rule in the offseason:
1. Ravens intentionally committed a penalty(s) and not only were not punished for it they were rewarded.
2. What could the Bengals do in that situation to defend against this tactic? I don't see a recourse for them. You guys tell me what they could have done.

Played better the rest of the game so they weren't in that situation. Unlike a lot of game exploits which can be used all game long, this is very particular to this situation. They did it in the Super Bowl, so it's not like it's something new. NFL had the chance to close it then and didn't so apparently it's in the spirit of the game. This isn't a programming error/limitation.

**TheShizNo1** · 12-02-2016, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by ggsimmonds

It should not be this difficult to grasp.

Real life Ravens used an exploit in the rulebook to their benefit.
Madden cheesers use exploits in the game mechanics/programming to their benefit.
I consider both to be loopholes. From wikipedia: A loophole is an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system, such as a law or security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the purpose, implied or explicitly stated, of the system.

Here is why I think it is in violation of the spirit of the game and why they should change the rule in the offseason:
1. Ravens intentionally committed a penalty(s) and not only were not punished for it they were rewarded.
2. What could the Bengals do in that situation to defend against this tactic? I don't see a recourse for them. You guys tell me what they could have done.

Pretty much this.

Originally posted by TracerBullet

Played better the rest of the game so they weren't in that situation. Unlike a lot of game exploits which can be used all game long, this is very particular to this situation. They did it in the Super Bowl, so it's not like it's something new. NFL had the chance to close it then and didn't so apparently it's in the spirit of the game. This isn't a programming error/limitation.

And, not to be repetitive, it's just not a good comparison. You don't like the "loop hole" and that's fine; just doesn't seem necessary to make a "glitch" reach to justify why you don't like it.

**mestevo** · 12-02-2016, 02:44 PM

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Von Miller sent a custom bottle of wine and this message to every player in the AFC West, including practice squad guys.

It is an honor and a privilege to take the field and compete with you twice a year. We are so fortunate to have this opportunity to fulfill our childhood dreams of playing in the NFL. The blood, sweat, aches and pains, and endless hours spent watching film are a testament to the love and dedication we have for this game. So take a moment, reflect on all your successes, and enjoy your accomplishment. Appreciate those who have helped you get this far, and start working towards your next childhood dream.

Thank you for helping to make our game great!

— Von Miller

Von Miller gives every player in AFC West custom bottle of wine, thank you note

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/12/02/von-miller-wine-gift-afc-west-thank-you/

Broncos linebacker Von Miller gifted every player in the AFC West — including practice-squad players and those on injured reserve — with a bottle of custom wine and a Thank You note. Th…

Loosely related, we make wine as an IT a team outing annually, a lot of fun and neat process - and I don't even like wine.

**ProfessaPackMan** · 12-02-2016, 03:23 PM

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So what's the backstory with this Jeff Fisher/Eric Dickerson story I've been hearing lately? Dickerson say something about Fisher's Mom or something?

**N51_rob** · 12-02-2016, 03:30 PM

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Has Dean Blandino come out yet and defended the blown roughing the passer at the end of the Vikes/Cowboy game.

**mestevo** · 12-02-2016, 03:52 PM

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Man who shot and killed McKnight might never be charged.

Sheriff: McKnight's killer fired shots from inside his car

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/02/sheriff-mcknights-killer-fired-shots-from-inside-his-car/

The man who shot former NFL running back Joe McKnight has not been charged yet.

The shooting happened from the shooters vehicle, and a variant of the 'stand your ground' laws related to carjackings could protect him from prosecution or at least provide the mechanisms to successfully defend him. The shooter did not stand over McKnight and shoot him again, all shots were from inside the car. There's no video of the shooting, and they're still working on finding witnesses. They aren't providing many more details.

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