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[ggsimmonds]

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If he was a good player, I would agree with his grievance.

Brandon Weeden was recently signed.

I don't think there is any doubt his protesting is the primary reason he is unemployed right now.

But that is not collusion, that would be a very hard sell.

[dubcity]

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Brandon Weeden was recently signed.

I don't think there is any doubt his protesting is the primary reason he is unemployed right now.

But that is not collusion, that would be a very hard sell.

Was Weeden signed to actually play in a game tho? Or is he just there to fill a short term roster spot? No team is gonna sign Kap in that role and deal with that media circus.

[Other Guy]

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I don't buy it as collusion. Owners may individually be against signing him, but I doubt there was ever any organized movement.

Also given this logic, any unsigned free agent could claim collusion. Ray Rice would have as good a case as anyone.

Lastly, as the article states, he's the one who opted out of the contract. That makes it hard to justify collusion as the reason he doesn't have a contract.

[superjames1992]

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Was Weeden signed to actually play in a game tho? Or is he just there to fill a short term roster spot? No team is gonna sign Kap in that role and deal with that media circus.

Yeah, that's the thing with Kap. He's definitely better than a lot of quarterbacks out there, but most quarterbacks of that ability don't come with the baggage (rightly or wrongly). Do you want your backup quarterback to come with that media circus?

If he were a star, he'd still have a job. He'd still be a 49er. As it is, he is probably better than some of the lower tier starting quarterbacks in the league, though.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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Who's gonna be the 1st person to say "scheme fit" and complete the whole bingo card? Don't all go at once.

[TheMatrix31]

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Matrix, y'all might be cursed, bruh; Offense finally gets it together but then the defense dies.

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Don't you think I know this ****, man.

Even in 2011 and 2012 where we finally had improved the defense and still had the offensive pieces, both years were WRECKED with injuries too. Remember that the 2011-12 season was finished with TJ Yates at the helm because Schaub got his foot (and career) ruined by that fat piecea**** Albert Haynesworth and then Leinart got hurt after that too.

It's just.....it's hard. And we lost Dylan Cole today too. UDFA who was absolutely killing it and basically became the new DeMeco/Cushing.

[ggsimmonds]

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Was Weeden signed to actually play in a game tho? Or is he just there to fill a short term roster spot? No team is gonna sign Kap in that role and deal with that media circus.

That is what I was saying, he is unsigned due to the media attention that would come with it, not because he isn't a good QB. Teams sign bad QBs all the time.

Each owner individually decided it wasn't worth the headache. It would be a very tough argument to say that all the owners met in their secret tree clubhouse and agreed that no one will sign him.

[LambertandHam]

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Rapsheet and ESPN confirming Bryant asked for a trade from the Steelers. After missing a year due to suspension, not sure how it'll fly in the locker room. His contract isn't up until 2018.

[ggsimmonds]

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Rapsheet and ESPN confirming Bryant asked for a trade from the Steelers. After missing a year due to suspension, not sure how it'll fly in the locker room. His contract isn't up until 2018.

That surprised me. Apparently the request was made a few weeks ago and indications are that the Steelers do not intend to oblige him.

Could they be heading for a severe rough patch? Ben will probably retire, Bryant wants out, and maybe its just wishful thinking but I get the impression that Bell may try to book it also.

[SPTO]

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Rapsheet and ESPN confirming Bryant asked for a trade from the Steelers. After missing a year due to suspension, not sure how it'll fly in the locker room. His contract isn't up until 2018.

There is definitely something rotten going on in Steeler Land. At least today's dominating win against Kansas City (at least defensively) will ratchet down some of the media scrutiny but if they continue to limp along the way they are this year these stories aren't going to stop and the media will be asking lots of questions.

The Steelers are definitely staring at a very rough transition period in the face and I don't envy the position Tomlin is in. I believe this would be his first 100% change in team identity. I know a couple or so years ago there was a changeover in defensive personnel and an overall change in offensive philosophy but this seems like they're going to lose a HOF caliber QB, A superstar WR who will whine his way out of town and I wouldn't doubt Bell thinking of hitting the road as well.



As to the Kaepernick situation, It definitely isn't collusion in the traditional sense unless he has proof that the owners all agreed together to not sign him but you can't tell me that there's a concerted effort to keep him out. The guy isn't the worst QB in the world. Yes, he comes with a lot of baggage but I think a LOT of people forget the original intent of what he did and completely forgot that he started doing his anthem thing during the Obama administration. It wasn't some hate on for the flag or military like it's been blown up to be. (sorry if some of this goes beyond the TOS but i'm adding context as to why Kaep not being signed is completely unfair to him) It will be interesting to see if he has some kind of proof other than what many unbiased people can see clear as day by simply connecting the dots.

[l3ulvl]

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That is what I was saying, he is unsigned due to the media attention that would come with it, not because he isn't a good QB. Teams sign bad QBs all the time.

Each owner individually decided it wasn't worth the headache. It would be a very tough argument to say that all the owners met in their secret tree clubhouse and agreed that no one will sign him.

side note but I would absolutely love to see what a secret tree clubhouse built with the funds of all the owners would look like, and if I could go back in time to my youth and spend just one summer there

[LambertandHam]

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That surprised me. Apparently the request was made a few weeks ago and indications are that the Steelers do not intend to oblige him.

Could they be heading for a severe rough patch? Ben will probably retire, Bryant wants out, and maybe its just wishful thinking but I get the impression that Bell may try to book it also.

I agree with you and SPTO. I don't expect them to give Bryant another contract or they'll deal him in the offseason/draft. Bell seems to want 15-20mil a year, some team will pay him if the Steelers don't.

Going to be a whole new team without Ben, Bryant and possibly Bell.

[steelerfan]

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Bryant has disputed Rappaport's "report".

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThaBestUNO/status/919767012204863488

[steelerfan]

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I agree with you and SPTO. I don't expect them to give Bryant another contract or they'll deal him in the offseason/draft. Bell seems to want 15-20mil a year, some team will pay him if the Steelers don't.

Going to be a whole new team without Ben, Bryant and possibly Bell.

Don't drink the Kool-Aid, brother.

[kehlis]

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Bryant has disputed Rappaport's "report".

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThaBestUN...67012204863488

Yet his girlfriend has confirmed it. What a web we weave.