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[reyes the roof]

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Shifting gears, apparently Trevor Lawrence made some comments along the lines of not having a chip on his shoulder or win at all costs mentality and its ruffling some people's feathers or lessening their opinion of him as a pro football player?

When are we going to drop this ridiculous idea that NFL players should devote their life to the sport? The NFL is a machine. It uses up people and spits them out when it no longer has use for them. Why should players treat it any differently?

After those comments I definitely wouldn’t use a top 19 pick on him. That’s just my unbiased opinion and it has nothing to do with being a Bears fan and the Bears having pick 20

[steelerfan]

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After those comments I definitely wouldn’t use a top 19 pick on him. That’s just my unbiased opinion and it has nothing to do with being a Bears fan and the Bears having pick 20

No way he should go in the top 23, with the lack of dedication he has shown.

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[steelerfan]

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I really hope that this version of the Aaron Donald fight incident is the true one. We'll see.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2021/04/16/Attorney-casey-white-Aaron-Donald-rams-pitt-accusing-NFL-star-assault-DeVincent-Spriggs-radio-interview-the-fan/stories/202104160116

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[Madden08PCgmr]

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Charles Davis and Matt Miller were calling him a HOF'er. One of them said he defined the slot position.

Welker beat him to that.. WITH New England, no less.

Not 1 All-Pro team. Not 1 Pro Bowl even. The conversation is absurd. Might understand it, if it were the clownshow up in Bristol. For NFL Net guys to pile on? Comical.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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Shifting gears, apparently Trevor Lawrence made some comments along the lines of not having a chip on his shoulder or win at all costs mentality and its ruffling some people's feathers or lessening their opinion of him as a pro football player?

When are we going to drop this ridiculous idea that NFL players should devote their life to the sport? The NFL is a machine. It uses up people and spits them out when it no longer has use for them. Why should players treat it any differently?

Thanks to Manning and Brady, that is what teams expect out of their QBs.

If I'm going to commit half-a-BILLION in a guy, thats what I'm expecting in return.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Well, if you’re committing that much money to someone, then you already have your answer on how talented/great of a player they are anyway.

That right there will trump the “How devoted to this game are they?” card any day. There are PLENTY of guys in the HOF right now but I’m almost certain all of them didn’t eat, sleep, **** and breathe Football 24/7.

I’m speaking on all positions just to clarify.

[slickdtc]

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I really hope that this version of the Aaron Donald fight incident is the true one. We'll see.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2021/04/16/Attorney-casey-white-Aaron-Donald-rams-pitt-accusing-NFL-star-assault-DeVincent-Spriggs-radio-interview-the-fan/stories/202104160116

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Seems believable and is exactly what your group/security should do, hop in on your behalf while others restrain you from getting caught up in something stupid. Will have to see the video to see if Donald pulling people off after the initial beatdown was well intentioned or not lol...

[Dagan]

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It definitely is about money but that doesn't mean they are lying. Until we see the evidence each side shows in court, it's hard to see who is lying. So far we have a pattern with +20 women that the defense has already confirmed as true. We know extra stuff happened because they already admitted it, it's just down to do you believe they did it willingly (for free) or he didn't pay enough or pressured them and they unwillingly gave in or refused. He doesn't have to be charged with a crime to be sued in civil court and so far he is losing the that based on the public info.

It's certainly not over but in his best interest to settle unless he can prove that they are lying. That will be very hard unless he has messages from them asking to schedule again or following up rating of the massage. He really has no chance since he has already admitted to some of it and there are supposedly messages from him saying sorry afterwards.

The guy left a paper trail because he was stupid. They can prove all of the massages happened even if he paid cash because he was messaging them online and texting them. Have some commonsense if you want to screw your career and find some discrete company, I'm sure they will role play a massage for him.

That's called a contradiction. There's a lot of women siding with Deshaun saying it's BS. Why didn't you call that true? It's verified to the same degree.

Read. Read what I only say. Read what you actually say. So many responses on this forum prove that people aren't reading.

[kehlis]

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Seems believable and is exactly what your group/security should do, hop in on your behalf while others restrain you from getting caught up in something stupid. Will have to see the video to see if Donald pulling people off after the initial beatdown was well intentioned or not lol...

It was, he’s seen pulling people away.

[p_rushing]

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That's called a contradiction. There's a lot of women siding with Deshaun saying it's BS. Why didn't you call that true? It's verified to the same degree.

Read. Read what I only say. Read what you actually say. So many responses on this forum prove that people aren't reading.

Because his lawyer has admitted it happened and was consensual. If you admit to a pattern and there are +20 women claiming you did the same thing to them, you better be able to prove it was consensual each time.

The other women claiming he did nothing to them means absolutely nothing. Saying I didn't harass these 18 women doesn't prove you didn't harass the other 20. We also don't know if these women signed NDAs or were paid.

So before his idiot lawyer opened his mouth, it was he said she said but with some supposed evidence we haven't seen. Now it is a true pattern and he has to prove it was consensual. All the other 18 women can't prove it was consensual because they weren't there. All he can do is now admit that he did the same thing with those women and they all agreed to it to try and establish a pattern of him asking for consent every time.

If he admits that he gets massages for sex, what do you think the NFL will do? That's 40 women just that have come forward. The NFL is fine as long as you keep you life private, but getting into legal issues is a problem.

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[Dagan]

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Because his lawyer has admitted it happened and was consensual. If you admit to a pattern and there are +20 women claiming you did the same thing to them, you better be able to prove it was consensual each time.

The other women claiming he did nothing to them means absolutely nothing. Saying I didn't harass these 18 women doesn't prove you didn't harass the other 20. We also don't know if these women signed NDAs or were paid.

So before his idiot lawyer opened his mouth, it was he said she said but with some supposed evidence we haven't seen. Now it is a true pattern and he has to prove it was consensual. All the other 18 women can't prove it was consensual because they weren't there. All he can do is now admit that he did the same thing with those women and they all agreed to it to try and establish a pattern of him asking for consent every time.

If he admits that he gets massages for sex, what do you think the NFL will do? That's 40 women just that have come forward. The NFL is fine as long as you keep you life private, but getting into legal issues is a problem.

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I, admittedly read you better, now. I'm too literal most times. Overall, trust me, I'm saying that I don't believe all the facts are 100% out there compared to the speculative being shoved at us (the usual, of course). Case in point: Look how fast people out there were ready to crucify A. Donald just this morning. The actual facts weren't even there, but people sure did say it was facts and ran with it. What's presented as facts this very minute might up and change, still, too. I always say that so many people are quick to jump to conclusions, but then they often find out what they jumped to was off-a-cliff. I'm always therefore slowing said roll. That's why what I'm talking about is facts from the very beginning of Deshaun's ordeal, and I say facts because both sides confirmed it. Those facts equaled my thinking it sketchy. We're all still learning, me especially, of course. No arrogance meant from me. I love the real talk in these forums, so I don't want anyone thinking I'm a troll or whatever.

[kehlis]

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No arrogance meant from me. I love the real talk in these forums, so I don't want anyone thinking I'm a troll or whatever.

In that case, this is an example of something you shouldn't say if you don't want to be viewed as a troll.

Read. Read what I only say. Read what you actually say. So many responses on this forum prove that people aren't reading.

[LambertandHam]

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Now that the video is out, attorney and client are backpedaling, attorney offering an apology to Donald via KDKA.

[illwill10]

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Bengals new uniforms. They leaked early last month, I saved a couple in early March.

I like them. Definitely the All Whites. I'm always a fan of simple and clean looks. I don't care for Atlanta, Seattle, Jaguars, Jets, Rams uniforms. I always preferred a "classic look" because at worst it looks boring

[reyes the roof]

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I must not have an eye for detail, they don’t look a whole lot different to me