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  • Jr.
    Playgirl Coverboy
    • Feb 2003
    • 19171

    #35446
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by CM Hooe
    Yup, Tom Brady has $15,000,000 reasons to not officially retire until after this upcoming Friday.
    Apparently this isn't true

    My favorite teams are better than your favorite teams

    Watch me play video games

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    • IlluminatusUIUC
      MVP
      • Jan 2010
      • 2667

      #35447
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Originally posted by Jr.

      I don't know if this is the source of the $15 million story or just repeating it.





      The roster bonus is effectively shielded from retirement forfeiture since you can only forfeit that salary if the breach (in this case the retirement) occurs in the season the roster bonus is earned. That only would be triggered if Brady walked away in 2021. The signing bonus, however, is fair game for a retirement in 2022. That might make some sense as to why the two sides used two very different methods of payment even though the impact was 100% the same.


      Per a league source with knowledge of Brady’s contract there is standard forfeiture language in the contract. That means the Bucs would have the right (but not the obligation) to recover up to $16 million in bonus prorations if he does retire. In addition Brady’s signing bonus carried a deferral of $15 million to early February. If Brady retired before that date the Buccaneers would probably no longer be under obligation to pay him that money.

      I have no idea who is correct without looking at the contract itself and Brady refuses to return my calls.
      Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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      • reyes the roof
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2009
        • 11521

        #35448
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        I don’t think you can just plug Brady in place of Rodgers and then expect the same unlucky events Green Bay faced. Swapping g QBs creates hundreds of variables along the way and I don’t think it’s a coincidence he has won seven Super Bowls. I think it’s fair to say he would have won at least two titles if he was starting in Green Bay from 2008 until now.

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        • ggsimmonds
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2009
          • 11235

          #35449
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by CM Hooe
          I brought up those moments specifically because I’m not sure which other season the Packers are obviously contending for a championship by swapping in a less mobile quarterback into a less dynamic offense with a less capable coaching staff.

          2011, 2014, and 2020 are self-evidently the best teams the Packers have put together over the past decade. Those three teams’ fates were sealed by events outside of a quarterback’s control. Changing the quarterback doesn’t change those outcomes.
          But to Pack's point of the problems with "plug and play" comparisons, we can't just drop Brady in those situations without expecting ripple effects. For the onside kick maybe Brady converts a key 3rd down earlier in the game that prevents that play from occurring.

          Of course conversely Rodgers routinely makes passes that other QBs (Brady included) couldn't.

          So the exact outcome would be different, what is unknown is whether it would be for the better or worse.

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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #35450
            NFL Off Topic

            Originally posted by CM Hooe
            I brought up those moments specifically because I’m not sure which other season the Packers are obviously contending for a championship by swapping in a less mobile quarterback into a less dynamic offense with a less capable coaching staff.

            2011, 2014, and 2020 are self-evidently the best teams the Packers have put together over the past decade. Those three teams’ fates were sealed by events outside of a quarterback’s control. Changing the quarterback doesn’t change those outcomes.
            I know that a simple swap doesn’t magically cure everything, come on now I’ve been saying that enough over the years, lol. Just like me saying “Swap Brady here” doesn’t mean we have those 7 SBs.

            And just to clarify, I was speaking more on this postseason than any other. And I know you’re going to blame it on coaching or weather conditions or other players or some other cliche(The 49ers wanted it more and were more hungry!)besides the QB as usual and that’s fine, that’s what you do.

            We can go do film breakdown of each play, go over each responsibility, etc and you might be able to win me over not blaming Rodgers. But outside of that, I don’t think there’s a strong argument to suggest his play in that game didn’t play a significant part in us not winning that game(The game is a week old and I’m still not in the mood to assign a percentage # of blame to folks just yet, ask me in a month)

            My apologies if I’m coming off hella defensive or disrespectful, BTW. I’m still pissed about that ****ty performance from Mr. Talks A lot among other people involved.
            Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 01-31-2022, 06:19 PM.
            #RespectTheCulture

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            • ggsimmonds
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jan 2009
              • 11235

              #35451
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              A confession, I did not know DeMeco Ryans was the 49ers DC. Doesn't seem like he retired that long ago.

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              • Jr.
                Playgirl Coverboy
                • Feb 2003
                • 19171

                #35452
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                A confession, I did not know DeMeco Ryans was the 49ers DC. Doesn't seem like he retired that long ago.
                I was talking about this with another person. He played at Bama before Saban got there which seems crazy to me. Couldn't believe he was drafted 15 years ago

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                My favorite teams are better than your favorite teams

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                • ggsimmonds
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11235

                  #35453
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Originally posted by Jr.
                  I was talking about this with another person. He played at Bama before Saban got there which seems crazy to me. Couldn't believe he was drafted 15 years ago

                  Sent from my SM-G970U using Operation Sports mobile app
                  I had to google when he retired cause I thought he was still active in like 2018 or so.

                  Turns out he retired around 2015. That still seems like a very fast coaching climb to DC. And his defense is top 5. Thats impressive.

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                  • zello144
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 2183

                    #35454
                    Re: NFL Off Topic



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                    • illwill10
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 19791

                      #35455
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Washington's rebranding should be revealed tomorrow

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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63852

                        #35456
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Originally posted by illwill10
                        Washington's rebranding should be revealed tomorrow

                        Apparently Joe Theissman slipped up and told the team name, especially with the way he’s talking like it’s a reality

                        #RespectTheCulture

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                        • slickdtc
                          Grayscale
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 17125

                          #35457
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Send em to the XFL we don’t want em
                          NHL - Philadelphia Flyers
                          NFL - Buffalo Bills
                          MLB - Cincinnati Reds


                          Originally posted by Money99
                          And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                          • illwill10
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 19791

                            #35458
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            "The Pat Bowlen Trust announced today the beginning of a sale process for the Denver Broncos.

                            Joe Ellis: “Whoever emerges as the new owner will certainly understand what the team means to our great fans and this community.” https://t.co/ubfPc4TjID "

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                            • zello144
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 2183

                              #35459
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                              Apparently Joe Theissman slipped up and told the team name, especially with the way he’s talking like it’s a reality

                              https://twitter.com/daoncbs/status/1...711301122?s=21
                              I really don't like that name makes me think of this.
                              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/1JABdS-HN5A" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                              I'd prefer anything with Hogs.

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                              • Majingir
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 47435

                                #35460
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Washington Commanders? I guess that's ok?

                                You have Capitals and Nationals already, so Commanders I guess somewhat fits, not as much as a name like Senators would have.

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