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  • VTPack919
    We Go Again
    • Jun 2003
    • 9708

    #4996
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
    Christ. They've found a way to make me even more depressed about the season.

    Silver lining is maybe there's enough time left in the year for them to realize that neither Freeman or Glennon are long-term answers and we can feel good about the idea of taking Bridgewater or Boyd with our top 5 pick that we're almost guaranteed to have now.
    Shouldn't you at least have a shred of hope? I don't think Glennon will be the answer but I can't say that with 100% certainty. At NC State he performed pretty well for having no offensive weapons and a terrible o-line. Jackson and Williams are great targets for a guy who can absolutely sling it.
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    • TheShizNo1
      Asst 2 the Comm Manager
      • Mar 2007
      • 26341

      #4997
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
      Christ. They've found a way to make me even more depressed about the season.

      Silver lining is maybe there's enough time left in the year for them to realize that neither Freeman or Glennon are long-term answers and we can feel good about the idea of taking Bridgewater or Boyd with our top 5 pick that we're almost guaranteed to have now.
      What would keeping Freeman as the starter do?

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      • Yeah...THAT Guy
        Once in a Lifetime Memory
        • Dec 2006
        • 17294

        #4998
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by VTPack919
        Shouldn't you at least have a shred of hope? I don't think Glennon will be the answer but I can't say that with 100% certainty. At NC State he performed pretty well for having no offensive weapons and a terrible o-line. Jackson and Williams are great targets for a guy who can absolutely sling it.
        Even with the fact that Freeman's been here 5 years and Glennon is only a rookie, I'm more certain that Glennon will never amount to anything than I am with Freeman. He was the one QB that I never wanted to touch in this past year's draft.

        He's eerily similar to Freeman, but worse in almost every aspect.
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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
          Once in a Lifetime Memory
          • Dec 2006
          • 17294

          #4999
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by TheShizNo1
          What would keeping Freeman as the starter do?

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          I was at least able to cling to some hope that he might turn it around and our team would start winning games. With Freeman, you at least see flashes like that stretch last year when he had something like 12 TDs to 0 INTs in 4 weeks. I don't think Glennon is capable of even showing flashes beyond one throw here and there.

          Edit: Anyways, hopefully I'm wrong, but I feel like his best case scenario is basically what we got from Freeman... doing just enough to make us not go out and get another QB for a few years before we realize he's actually a big part of the problem.
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          • slickdtc
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            • Aug 2004
            • 17125

            #5000
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            I get that you don't like him as a QB, but Freeman has you guys going nowhere. Give Glennon a chance. Worst (perhaps best) case scenario, he flops and you get the top pick you desire. Alternative is he leads you to a somewhat respectable record, and maybe he can get you on his side with his play.

            Seems like a win/win.

            I do see your side that he can do just enough to stick. QB purgatory. Seen that too much in Buffalo.
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            Originally posted by Money99
            And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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            • TheShizNo1
              Asst 2 the Comm Manager
              • Mar 2007
              • 26341

              #5001
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
              I was at least able to cling to some hope that he might turn it around and our team would start winning games. With Freeman, you at least see flashes like that stretch last year when he had something like 12 TDs to 0 INTs in 4 weeks. I don't think Glennon is capable of even showing flashes beyond one throw here and there.

              Edit: Anyways, hopefully I'm wrong, but I feel like his best case scenario is basically what we got from Freeman... doing just enough to make us not go out and get another QB for a few years before we realize he's actually a big part of the problem.
              But this season? Lol. I read something that said his completion percentage in the last 2 years is in company with Weeden and Gabbert.

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              • Yeah...THAT Guy
                Once in a Lifetime Memory
                • Dec 2006
                • 17294

                #5002
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by slickdtc
                I get that you don't like him as a QB, but Freeman has you guys going nowhere. Give Glennon a chance. Worst (perhaps best) case scenario, he flops and you get the top pick you desire. Alternative is he leads you to a somewhat respectable record, and maybe he can get you on his side with his play.

                Seems like a win/win.

                I do see your side that he can do just enough to stick. QB purgatory. Seen that too much in Buffalo.
                Yeah, we'll see. At this point, praying that he sucks enough that we fire Schiano and start over at HC and QB while somehow keeping our other guys' heads up so that they don't give up on the organization.
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                • rangerrick012
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                  • Jan 2010
                  • 6201

                  #5003
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                  Yeah, we'll see. At this point, praying that he sucks enough that we fire Schiano and start over at HC and QB while somehow keeping our other guys' heads up so that they don't give up on the organization.
                  I hear Jon gruden is available...



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                  • TheShizNo1
                    Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 26341

                    #5004
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by rangerrick012
                    I hear Jon gruden is available...



                    Too soon?
                    That dude is so damn overrated.

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                    • Husker_OS
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                      • Jun 2003
                      • 21459

                      #5005
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                      What would keeping Freeman as the starter do?

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                      • jyoung
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11132

                        #5006
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have decided to bench quarterback Josh Freeman for rookie Mike Glennon, coach Greg Schiano announced Wednesday.


                        "This league is about finding a franchise quarterback, and with Josh's roller-coaster career, we don't feel he's that guy," a team source said.

                        There are five weeks before the trade deadline, and if a team loses a starting quarterback and has interest in Freeman, the Bucs are willing to trade him. For now, he's their backup quarterback.
                        Sounds like the Freeman era is officially over in Tampa.

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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #5007
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by jyoung
                          http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/97...n-mike-glennon



                          Sounds like the Freeman era is officially over in Tampa.
                          I know there's good reason not to believe Freeman is a franchise QB but the way all the dirty laundry has been aired out and the very disrespectful way they've handled the whole thing makes the Bucs look pretty Mickey Mouse to me.

                          Hopefully Schiano will have more patience with whoever is the new starting QB next season.
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                          • Bmore Irish
                            The Future
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 3461

                            #5008
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            It sounds like there's a lot of unrest in that locker room right now. Doesn't bode well for Schiano either.

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                            • slickdtc
                              Grayscale
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 17125

                              #5009
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Freeman was never his guy, though. I mean it's only Year #2 with Schiano, he's just now starting to mould his roster. Weird situation there with a rebuilding team who got a new coach but the QB from the past era stayed put.
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                              • Yeah...THAT Guy
                                Once in a Lifetime Memory
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 17294

                                #5010
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Originally posted by slickdtc
                                Freeman was never his guy, though. I mean it's only Year #2 with Schiano, he's just now starting to mould his roster. Weird situation there with a rebuilding team who got a new coach but the QB from the past era stayed put.
                                It really shouldn't be a rebuilding team though. That's why Schiano has to go in my opinion. He's still learning how to be a head coach. With the current roster, which, in my opinion, is ready to win games (besides the QB situation now), you should have a head coach that's ready to win games as well. Schiano isn't that guy.

                                The Bills are doing it right: letting the team grow along with the coach. The Bucs screwed it up by putting a team together that should be good enough to compete for a playoff spot with a coach that can't get out of his own way.

                                Now Tampa is stuck with a roster of guys that want to win and a coach that brings them down, so they now have to find a way to keep the players' heads on straight while tanking for at least one more year.
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