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[N51_rob]

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The way I see it, the Bears probably aren't going to win a Super Bowl with a 30+ year old Jay Cutler with the squad they have. So why not let him walk, resign some younger, higher quality and higher potential talent, possibly draft a QB or sign a young QB in free agency and let McCown start next year. If he does poorly then play the young guy and see what he can do, if he plays well, well, he plays well.

Re-signing Cutler doesn't really help the Bears too much I don't believe.

Looking at the current NFL QB landscape what are the names of these "younger, higher quality and higher potential talent" QBs you speak of?

I would argue the exact opposite, and say there is a lack of young high quality talent at the QB position right now, especially talent that will be in the open market.

[ImTellinTim]

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The Bears offense right now isn't a project. It's loaded, and I sure as hell don't want to give the keys to a career backup or a rookie. Let's see what Cutler wants in a contract before making assertions that it isn't the best option for the team.

[areobee401]

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The way I see it, the Bears probably aren't going to win a Super Bowl with a 30+ year old Jay Cutler with the squad they have. So why not let him walk, resign some younger, higher quality and higher potential talent, possibly draft a QB or sign a young QB in free agency and let McCown start next year. If he does poorly then play the young guy and see what he can do, if he plays well, well, he plays well.



Re-signing Cutler doesn't really help the Bears too much I don't believe.

Why allow him to walk for nothing in return. Franchise tag him and trade him if you plan to move on. You don't allow a talent like Cutler who happens to play the most important position in the NFL get away for free.

[mestevo]

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The Bears offense right now isn't a project. It's loaded, and I sure as hell don't want to give the keys to a career backup or a rookie. Let's see what Cutler wants in a contract before making assertions that it isn't the best option for the team.

PFT outlined it pretty well, his situation (rather than his talent, IMO) dictates probably $16m/year.

While Emery bemoaned the fact that the franchise tender, expected to be in the range of $16 million in 2014, can’t be spread over multiple years, he sidestepped the reality that the magnitude of the tag provides the starting point for a long-term deal.

If Cutler knows he can make $16 million for 2014, how much would he want on a three-year deal? Given that the tag for Cutler would increase, per the CBA, by 20 percent in 2015 ($19.2 million) and by 44 percent in 2016 ($27.6 million), Cutler would earn $62.8 million over three years under the franchise tag.

If at any point the Bears opt to not use the tag, Cutler would hit the open market.

That point could come even before the tag is applied once. If the Bears don’t view him as a guy who deserves an average of $16 million or more on a multi-year deal, the Bears may choose to let the market set his value. The problem with that approach is that Cutler may decide to take the same amount of money — or perhaps even less — to play for someone else.

With plenty of teams (including the Bears’ rivals in Minnesota) needing a proven quarterback, the Bears are faced with a problem that has no easy solution. For now, the goal could be to get Cutler’s agent to not use the franchise tag as the starting point for a long-term deal by convincing Cutler’s agent that the franchise tag won’t be applied.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/05/franchise-tag-for-cutler-creates-potential-mess-for-bears/

[SPTO]

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If i'm the Bears i'd try to get AJ McCarron in the draft. He has enough of an arm to make it work but the thing that puts him over the top for me at least, is that he has a football mind and will grasp concepts quickly. Marc Trestman had a HUGE amount of success with one of the more football astute QBs in CFL history with Anthony Calvillo so I could see a good mentor/student relationship between him and McCarron.

[Blitz1942]

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Looking at the current NFL QB landscape what are the names of these "younger, higher quality and higher potential talent" QBs you speak of?

I would argue the exact opposite, and say there is a lack of young high quality talent at the QB position right now, especially talent that will be in the open market.

I think he was more referring to other positions, not QB. If they don't resign Cutler and go with McCown and a rookie, that's a lot of money that can be displaced elsewhere on that team.

[Ice_Cold345]

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If i'm the Bears i'd try to get AJ McCarron in the draft. He has enough of an arm to make it work but the thing that puts him over the top for me at least, is that he has a football mind and will grasp concepts quickly. Marc Trestman had a HUGE amount of success with one of the more football astute QBs in CFL history with Anthony Calvillo so I could see a good mentor/student relationship between him and McCarron.

I like the pick, but I don't think they would do it, especially since McCarron is probably a 2nd round pick. I wouldn't be surprised if Greg McElroy finds his way on the team as a backup role, because I think he could play really well in that system.

I would say McCown should be the starter because he hasn't turned the ball over nearly as much as Cutler can/will (even though McCown did get away with some picks in the Cowboys game.) But, Cutler doesn't have the higher upside and now the entire offense is clicking, I wonder how Cutler will do now that he has all the receivers he needs and they are producing really well as of late.

[ImTellinTim]

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I think he was more referring to other positions, not QB. If they don't resign Cutler and go with McCown and a rookie, that's a lot of money that can be displaced elsewhere on that team.

Yeah, lots of depth problems surfaced on the defense this year. But does just throwing money at it help all that much? I'd argue that the coaching on that side of the ball is lacking. The defensive coordinator let the PLAYERS dictate the system they wanted to run and let them keep all the terminology. That doesn't exactly make me confident that the team even has a plan on that side of the ball right now. When you have players making the same damn mistakes over and over and over again, you have to wonder what the hell is going on.

[TheShizNo1]

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What happens if Cutler struggles for a couple games? Or just turns the ball over more.

I think one thing that has helped is McCown not putting the defense in bad spots.

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[wwharton]

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His record in the playoffs more than backs up my comments about him. There is a certain level of mental toughness that comes into play come that time of the season.

And good for him. He won a cold weather game. That makes his teams something like 9-12 in games where the weather was under 40 degrees. You showed us, Peyton. Never gonna doubt you again.

Seriously, just give it up. Should've cut bait on this one a long time ago.

Wait a minute, you can't walk to the game nor can you get dropped off by a Black Car and if you do drive a car, it has to stay on the premises the entire time?

And I can already see right now those Shuttles are going to be a disaster and don't let the Weather be an issue that day either.

No black cars in the NYC area for a major event? NFL, you're pretty powerful but I think you may finally be biting off more than you can chew.

I guess it is the SB so the entire parking lot will be full of "black cars"... 13,000 of them. I'm guessing they expect as much and the insane tailgating rules are to make sure the wealthy people who are afraid of getting breathed on don't have to navigate through rowdy blue collar types. I'd be curious to know how tailgating has been handled or gone off in other SBs also, though. Not too many regular folk get tickets to those games anyway so how crazy has it been?

[areobee401]

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Seriously, just give it up. Should've cut bait on this one a long time ago.

So he's allowed to make a smart *** joke at my expense and I can't respond? I've let it go. Others seem to have a problem doing so. Sorry.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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What happens if Cutler struggles for a couple games? Or just turns the ball over more.

I think one thing that has helped is McCown not putting the defense in bad spots.

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You still stick with him because he still gives you the best chance to win over the long term.

[areobee401]

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NFL has flexed Bears at Eagles to prime time for week 16. Patriots and Ravens have been moved to 4:25 PM on CBS.

[iAM-IncReDiBLe-]

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I don't feel like Cutler gives the Bears any more of a chance to win then McCown does. I feel the Bears would be better served to draft a qb to learn behind McCown who can be a stop gap for a year or two.

The defense has fallen off from recent years an it doesn't help when Cutler puts them in bad situations. It always feels like people are just waiting for him to throw an interception or two.

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[slickdtc]

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NFL has flexed Bears at Eagles to prime time for week 16. Patriots and Ravens have been moved to 4:25 PM on CBS.

Interesting... Neither matchup seems more appealing then the other. I suppose Philly could be playing to win the division at that point.