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[TripleCrown9]

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Let's brighten this mood up a wee bit.

Next year is the 5th IFAF World Championship!

Here's the website from 2011.

[Segagendude]

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That's why it could be a blessing in disguise. By and large, Lombardi is a clown. When he has free reign, bad things happen.

Haslem may be vilified for all this nonsense, but it could come back around to benefit the organization. You can't patch up your organization. He had to clean it up from the top down.

I suppose he brought in some of these guys, so that's on him. But I guess it's better to correct a mistake then continue to let it erode your franchise.

I wonder where he stands on Pettine? I actually have a feeling he could somehow, magically turn around this team. That they had to go a bit off the radar to grab him after being turned down (assuming here) by so many other headline grabbing candidates could be what they needed. Those coaches were relieved of their old jobs for a reason. Get some fresh blood in there that isn't coming from the college ranks. Pettine really turned around the Bills defense with similar personnel as the year before. And he had a run of good defenses with NYJ, keeping them semi-relevant with Sanchez leading the offense. Pettine could really be a diamond in the rough. And building your team off a solid defense is never a bad idea.

The question is, can they surround the team with quality players in free agency/draft? Not many teams are able to wipe the slate clean as the Browns have now done; they have a real chance to change the culture of losing there. Pettine started something in Buffalo, and despite still being a losing football team, the mood has changed for the Bills. We're a team with a clear path and key players are emerging to lead us there.

Cleveland needs a franchise QB. They can't whiff on that pick. They need a solid RB or pack of RB's to firm up their run game. There are pieces spread throughout the roster. They just need it all to come together. They are not as far off as all this drama would have you believe. They may be a farce now having fired their management in staggered tiers, but we could look back on these moves as laying the foundation for a new, successful regime.

Well said. This draft is important simply because of the boat load of picks they have coming.
Hoping they don't screw this up like years past.

[Crimsontide27]

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Yeah it sounds like some serious stuff with Sharper. Dude's gonna be goin away for quite a while.

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I read the article and I cant find any talk of any evidence they have against him other than some girls left the club with him.

Having been around professional athletes constantly for the past 7 years I can safely state that this is a dirt common occurrence. Hell, I was invited to an NBA players party a few months ago and I had never seen so many women in one place since the New Kids on the Block Concert last year.

There were so many women there flinging themselves at the pro athletes that the police where actually called to escort a lot of them OFF the players property. I saw naked women passed out in the middle of the floor, I saw about 20 naked women in the pool, people were having sex on the couch in front of everyone....it was a freaking orgy in that place.

So pardon me if I feel its kinda suspect that he supposedly drugged 4 women from the same club. Sounds like someone made an accusation and now more are coming out of the woodwork to try to milk the gravy train.

While it may be possible this occurred, I sure would like to see some evidence other than just some groupie at the clubs word about it. It sure wouldn't be the first time this has happened.

[kaletore11]

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There were so many women there flinging themselves at the pro athletes that the police where actually called to escort a lot of them OFF the players property. I saw naked women passed out in the middle of the floor, I saw about 20 naked women in the pool, people were having sex on the couch in front of everyone....it was a freaking orgy in that place.

Not a bad party, I must say.

[coogrfan]

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I read the article and I cant find any talk of any evidence they have against him other than some girls left the club with him.

Having been around professional athletes constantly for the past 7 years I can safely state that this is a dirt common occurrence. Hell, I was invited to an NBA players party a few months ago and I had never seen so many women in one place since the New Kids on the Block Concert last year.

There were so many women there flinging themselves at the pro athletes that the police where actually called to escort a lot of them OFF the players property. I saw naked women passed out in the middle of the floor, I saw about 20 naked women in the pool, people were having sex on the couch in front of everyone....it was a freaking orgy in that place.

So pardon me if I feel its kinda suspect that he supposedly drugged 4 women from the same club. Sounds like someone made an accusation and now more are coming out of the woodwork to try to milk the gravy train.

While it may be possible this occurred, I sure would like to see some evidence other than just some groupie at the clubs word about it. It sure wouldn't be the first time this has happened.

The fact that Sharper is currently being investigated in connection with similar assaults in three other states is, of course, mere coincidence.

[Crimsontide27]

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The fact that Sharper is currently being investigated in connection with similar assaults in three other states is, of course, mere coincidence.

Probably like the same coincidence that saw a college basketball coach accused of molesting different people from across multiple states over a period of many years as well....turns out everyone of them got caught in a lie.

So your point?


If they have some sort of physical evidence, then fine. Until such point in time that some evidence is found other than a club groupie said so, then its illogical to convict the man in the court of opinion before 1 shred of evidence is presented.

[coogrfan]

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Probably like the same coincidence that saw a college basketball coach accused of molesting different people from across multiple states over a period of many years as well....turns out everyone of them got caught in a lie.

The LA district attorney's office formally charged Sharper last friday with seven felony drug and rape counts. DA's are not in the habit of filing charges in rape cases based solely on the word of an accuser.

Add to that the fact that Sharper was alreadly being investigated in connection with similar assualts in Nevada, Arizona and Louisiana, and it seems reasonable to assume this is more than a case of he said, she said.

So your point?

If they have some sort of physical evidence, then fine. Until such point in time that some evidence is found other than a club groupie said so, then its illogical to convict the man in the court of opinion before 1 shred of evidence is presented.

My point was that your colorful story with it's implication that pro athletes don't need to resort to rape is at best naive, at worst incredibly offensive. Two words: Dave Meggett (a serial rapist currently serving a 30 year sentence in South Carolina):

http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2014/1/21/5320000/david-meggett-criminal-history-profile

[Steven78]

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http://thebiglead.com/2014/02/17/10-nfl-management-quotes-that-look-absurd-after-roger-goodells-44-million-2012-wages/

[Crimsontide27]

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The LA district attorney's office formally charged Sharper last friday with seven felony drug and rape counts. DA's are not in the habit of filing charges in rape cases based solely on the word of an accuser.

Add to that the fact that Sharper was alreadly being investigated in connection with similar assualts in Nevada, Arizona and Louisiana, and it seems reasonable to assume this is more than a case of he said, she said.



My point was that your colorful story with it's implication that pro athletes don't need to resort to rape is at best naive, at worst incredibly offensive. Two words: Dave Meggett (a serial rapist currently serving a 30 year sentence in South Carolina):

http://www.sbnation.com/longform/201...istory-profile

Ok,

First off there was no where in my post did I state nor imply that pro atheletes dont need to resort to rape. The point being is that any person of public stature, wether it be a pro athelete, celebrity, public figure is a prime target for extorition or blackmail.

As seen in literally thousands of different cases throughout history, these women literally fling themselves at these public figures trying to catch a windfall settlement for any and everything they possibly can. They will stop at nothing trying to extort these people and then play the public sympathy card trying to get that public figure to settle out of court to not hurt their reputation...which could lead to much more worse financial implications.

Ive worked with them very closely for the past 7 years and have seen many more instances and cases where the women are more of a predator and a threat than the public figure is....yet since 99% of society never has to experience the draw backs of being a public figure then they dont have the first clue what they are experiencing.

If Sharper did it, then he deserves to punished. I think the fact that there were a few cases brought up long ago that didnt have enough evidence to charge him speaks volumes as well.

So you bring up that the DA in LA has decided to bring up charges as some sort of admission that he must have done it.....

How about you ask those Lacross players at Duke how that worked out? Had a rogue DA out there trying to make a name for himself and charged those students without so much as a shred of evidence and kept at it even when he knew she was lying to save his reputation.

Once again for record. If he did what he is accused of doing, then by all means put him in jail.

[coogrfan]

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Ok,

First off there was no where in my post did I state nor imply that pro atheletes dont need to resort to rape. The point being is that any person of public stature, wether it be a pro athelete, celebrity, public figure is a prime target for extorition or blackmail.

One incident? Maybe. Four incidents (that we know of) in four seperate states? That's an awful lot of smoke for there not to be some sort of fire.

As seen in literally thousands of different cases throughout history, these women literally fling themselves at these public figures trying to catch a windfall settlement for any and everything they possibly can. They will stop at nothing trying to extort these people and then play the public sympathy card trying to get that public figure to settle out of court to not hurt their reputation...which could lead to much more worse financial implications.

Ive worked with them very closely for the past 7 years and have seen many more instances and cases where the women are more of a predator and a threat than the public figure is....yet since 99% of society never has to experience the draw backs of being a public figure then they dont have the first clue what they are experiencing.

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the allegations in question. We aren't talking about women luring Sharper into consensual sex and then claiming rape. In all of the cases in question Sharper is alleged to have slipped the victims a knockout drug and then had sex with them while they were still unconcious.

If Sharper did it, then he deserves to punished. I think the fact that there were a few cases brought up long ago that didnt have enough evidence to charge him speaks volumes as well.

Rape cases are notoriously difficult to prosecute. Dave Meggett got away with it on at least four occasions; if he hadn't incriminated himself by attempting to make nice with the fifth victim he very likely would have walked on that one as well.

So you bring up that the DA in LA has decided to bring up charges as some sort of admission that he must have done it.....

How about you ask those Lacross players at Duke how that worked out? Had a rogue DA out there trying to make a name for himself and charged those students without so much as a shred of evidence and kept at it even when he knew she was lying to save his reputation.

Duke Lacrosse: a single accuser and an overzealous, pubilcity seeking DA.

Sharper: at least seven women in multiple states, with mulitiple law enforcement agencies investigating and at least one prepared to file charges.

Once again for record. If he did what he is accused of doing, then by all means put him in jail.

In this at least we are in agreement.

[TheShizNo1]

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The NBA has something in which they can offer a guy they drafted more money when his rookie contract expires, is this correct? If so, I'd like if the NFL could do that to, if they don't already. You should get a little more of an advantage if you take the time to draft these guys and coach em up.

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[kingkilla56]

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The NBA has something in which they can offer a guy they drafted more money when his rookie contract expires, is this correct? If so, I'd like if the NFL could do that to, if they don't already. You should get a little more of an advantage if you take the time to draft these guys and coach em up.

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Are there limits in the NFL on what you can pay a guy? After their rookie scaled contract is over that is.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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There's also the franchise tag.

[TheShizNo1]

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There's also the franchise tag.

Franchise tag sucks for players and some teams.

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[dsallupinyaarea]

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Franchise tag sucks for players and some teams.

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Oh, I agree. It's awful and I'm surprised the NFLPA never fights it in negotiations. It's still an advantage for the home team when it comes to FA though.