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[muggins]

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On or shortly before March 6, the day that Tom Brady met with independent investigator Ted Wells and his colleagues, Brady directed that the cell phone he had used for the prior four months be destroyed. He did so even though he was aware that the investigators had requested access to text messages and other electronic information that had been stored on that phone. During the four months that the cell phone was in use, Brady had exchanged nearly 10,000 text messages, none of which can now be retrieved from that device. The destruction of the cell phone was not disclosed until June 18, almost four months after the investigators had first sought electronic information from Brady.

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[jb12780]

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If Tom was innocent then why destroy the phone?

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[Beantown]

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Still (one of the) the #GOAT.

[alifeincomplete]

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As an ardent Tom Brady fan:

I wouldn't have turned over the phone either (they have authority to compel him to hand it over), but I certainly would not have destroyed it. I wonder how they found out he destroyed his phone. All things set aside, that single fact changes everything.

My guess is this will go to court now, the NFL would capitulate and it will be overturned; NFL wanted to save face and upheld their ruling. That said, New England should suspend Brady as a show of good faith.

After this season, when there is a year of games to evaluate how astmospherics change the inflation of the ball, I wholly expect the findings -- that balls deflate naturally throughout the course of a game -- to exonerate NE. But it won't matter. Sports media long ago turned Joe Public against them and nothing short of "NFL clears Patriots of all wrongdoing; admits its understanding of game ball physics was flawed" as a breaking headline would change that... a lot of which they've (Patriots) brought on themselves. Oh well.

[SPTO]

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Well that just shows Brady was guilty as sin. I mean there's NO WAY one can justify him destroying his phone when he KNEW investigators would ask for it.

He may be one of the best of all time on the field but this is a huge blow to his image unless you're already a brainwashed Patriots/Brady zealot.

[mestevo]

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Maybe he can sue for having an incompetent defense. NFLPA didn't even call the assistants as witnesses in his defense... Unless they knew they'd do more harm than good.

Not even sure what approach they would take legally. Would have to be some procedural CBA thing. Hard to argue Brady cooperated sufficiently.

It's noted in the report Brady didn't destroy his prior phone.

[redsox4evur]

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Maybe he can sue for having an incompetent defense. NFLPA didn't even call the assistants as witnesses in his defense... Unless they knew they'd do more harm than good.

Not even sure what approach they would take legally. Would have to be some procedural CBA thing. Hard to argue Brady cooperated sufficiently.

It's noted in the report Brady didn't destroy his prior phone.

When this case goes to court it's not going to be over the science or the text messages. It's going to be about the CBA and procedures.

And the PA is ready and waiting for Brady approval.

[SPTO]

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When this case goes to court it's not going to be over the science or the text messages. It's going to be about the CBA and procedures.

And the PA is ready and waiting for Brady approval.

The PA may have a point on those merits but man, the PR backlash makes it almost not worth the fight.

[coogrfan]

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When this case goes to court it's not going to be over the science or the text messages. It's going to be about the CBA and procedures.

And the PA is ready and waiting for Brady approval.

You mean the CBA the NFLPA agreed to?

Good luck.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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When this case goes to court it's not going to be over the science or the text messages. It's going to be about the CBA and procedures.

And the PA is ready and waiting for Brady approval.

As if it's up to Tom to decide what the case will be made about. Destroying the potentially incriminating cell phone while lying about destroying previous cell phones only strengthens the NFL case, which really doesn't need to be all that strong to hold up anyways. I imagine that will be a difficult hurdle to overcome.

[steelerfan]

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NFL: Steelers RB Le'Veon Bell's suspension reduced from 3 games to 2 following settlement between NFL/NFLPA - sources*-via ESPN.

[mestevo]

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When this case goes to court it's not going to be over the science or the text messages. It's going to be about the CBA and procedures.

And the PA is ready and waiting for Brady approval.

I don't see how you can really separate them in this case with such clear-cut lack of cooperation. And gap in policy is easily covered by the hole Brady dug.

Should have just confirmed what he knew, provided selected texts and faced the punishment.

Probably what he wished he did.

[areobee401]

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Brady destroying phones for security reasons should surprise no one. Smart for a man of his status. I think he is a victim of bad timing. If NFL had asked sooner he would have gladly handed over his phone.

Tom Brady is the real victim here. Not the cell phone. My hope is that our court system does not let us down.

[mestevo]

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Brady destroying phones for security reasons should surprise no one. Smart for a man of his status. I think he is a victim of bad timing. If NFL had asked sooner he would have gladly handed over his phone.

Tom Brady is the real victim here. Not the cell phone. My hope is that out court system does not let us down.

He didn't destroy his previous phone. Just this one, and apparently after it was known it was needed.

[coogrfan]

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Brady destroying phones for security reasons should surprise no one. Smart for a man of his status. I think he is a victim of bad timing. If NFL had asked sooner he would have gladly handed over his phone.

Tom Brady is the real victim here. Not the cell phone. My hope is that our court system does not let us down.

Please, please tell me you're doing a bit.