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[ProfessaPackMan]

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BREAKING: The NFL will have a spring league starting in the spring of 2017, structured around four squads of veteran free agent players


I know a lot of people are probably excited about that, but that's a hard pass for me.

Yeah, that's a no for me too.

[wwharton]

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So, people/players/owners/etc are supposed to look at Zeke not being disciplined for violating a rule and go on about their day?

People should make up their minds, lol. Every chance we get we complain that the NFL is too strict with their uniform rules. They try to build in a way for players to change their cleats for special causes (since that's been the biggest complaint) and the first thing we hear is "only for one day huh?" AND 1st chance, we have a player showing exactly why the NFL has been so steadfast against letting players do it on a case by case basis, making a mockery of it to bring attention to himself.

And with this, every chance we get we complain about the NFL fining celebrations. So here's a time where they decided to let it go and they're now getting attacked for that.

I can't hear your speeding/cop example because I don't have a police ticker going across my screen every time someone gets pulled over for speeding. It's not the same thing, imo.

That's fair enough, but I'm not sure a full example is needed for the point. Authority figures decide to look away when a small rule is broken bc it's the holiday season, they're in a good mood, you've never done anything wrong before, etc, etc, etc. It happens all the time, and doesn't have anything to do with anyone else who's ever been punished instead of given that pass. Doesn't make sense to me that others would complain about not being allowed to break a rule, because ONE other person got away with it.

This isn't a dammed if they do or don't situation. You sound like my man in here that's always defending the NFL. It's simple, if a player is doing something to promote a good cause (salvation army/cancer) you don't fine him. They contradcticted themselves and are now getting criticized and rightfully so.

I don't always defend the NFL, but I do think people go overboard in finding reasons to attack them. Most importantly, it's not as simple as you're laying it out. The battle between the NFL and players is about uniformity. Players wish they had more ways to express their individuality. Not only do basketball players have different shoes they can wear, they can get distinctive tattoos, they can go extreme with their hair, and they don't wear helmets anyway so they're automatically more recognizable.

But the NBA has grown it's business by promoting individuals while the NFL promotes the name on the front of the jersey, everyone is replaceable, etc. I'm not arguing that the NFL is right or the players are right. I'm just not going to be naive in thinking many players aren't trying to find loopholes to get what they want. The celebrations were a way, then they were mostly taken away. Players want to try with the only piece of the uniform that could possibly be customized, the shoes.

If I wanted to play the victim card, I could get a ton of people behind me by saying I want to do "x" for a cause, and make the big bad NFL look like a-holes for not letting me support this important cause. The NFL caves to just one player on this front, and they cave to them all. So like it or not, they are right in sticking to their uniform policies. And the fines aren't much to these players, so the ones who feel that strongly just pay the damn fine and keep it moving.

I personally think Zeke's celebration is unique bc the salvation army is a great cause and that bucket just happens to be there during this, the GIVING season, and it was (appeared) spontaneous, AND he was properly flagged for it when it happened.

I do agree they should've just fined him, but to avoid all of this BS backlash that I think is ridiculous, but will certainly be sure they don't loosen the reigns anymore so they can continue to be considered the Scrooges of celebration.

[wco81]

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BREAKING: The NFL will have a spring league starting in the spring of 2017, structured around four squads of veteran free agent players


I know a lot of people are probably excited about that, but that's a hard pass for me.

Right in the middle of NBA playoffs positioning.

Wonder which games will get greater ratings.

[ImTellinTim]

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It apparently will not be run by the NFL. That actually makes a lot more sense.

[RJTurneR]

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So here's a time where they decided to let it go and they're now getting attacked for that.

Consistency.

They don't issue a fine to one of the league's rising stars who very clearly broke their rule.

But happily fine a player who wore cleats in tribute of someone who had died.

Either change the rule, ditch it, or be consistent. The fact someone gets an ridiculous fine for paying homage to a person who has passed away quite frankly makes me sick.

[redsox4evur]

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It's not about the tribute...it's about the color scheme. If OBJ's cleats were blue and red instead of purple he doesn't get fined. Because Golden Tate wore a pair of cleats that were a tribute to someone but were blue and white and the league had 0 issue with it.


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[RJTurneR]

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It's not about the tribute...it's about the color scheme. If OBJ's cleats were blue and red instead of purple he doesn't get fined. Because Golden Tate wore a pair of cleats that were a tribute to someone but were blue and white and the league had 0 issue with it.


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Oh come on, you can't tell me you watch a game and take issue with someone else's cleats being a different colour from the rest of the teams?

As long as I can identify what team I'm looking at and which player I'm looking at, let them wear whatever cleats they want within reason (Nothing stupid, self centered, etc..).

Sports is about more than winning and losing, it's a platform to do great things and give back and help unite people.

If you are in the armed forces you are expected to have your uniform perfect down to the smallest detail. That's the problem. This is the NFL. Not boot camp.

[redsox4evur]

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Oh come on, you can't tell me you watch a game and take issue with someone else's cleats being a different colour from the rest of the teams?



As long as I can identify what team I'm looking at and which player I'm looking at, let them wear whatever cleats they want within reason (Nothing stupid, self centered, etc..).



Sports is about more than winning and losing, it's a platform to do great things and give back and help unite people.



If you are in the armed forces you are expected to have your uniform perfect down to the smallest detail. That's the problem. This is the NFL. Not boot camp.

I don't have an issue with it. I'm just saying what the issue is with the NFL.


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[SPTO]

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The Giants retro storntrooper look is NIIICE. That should be one of their alternates. Love that they're they're using the old "Giants" logo too.

[RJTurneR]

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I don't have an issue with it. I'm just saying what the issue is with the NFL.


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My bad, I took it as you were defending them for it.

The Giants retro storntrooper look is NIIICE. That should be one of their alternates. Love that they're they're using the old "Giants" logo too.

Those and the Saints are two of the best so far. I wouldn't mind seeing the Giants switch back to that logo either.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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It's not about the tribute...it's about the color scheme. If OBJ's cleats were blue and red instead of purple he doesn't get fined. Because Golden Tate wore a pair of cleats that were a tribute to someone but were blue and white and the league had 0 issue with it.


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DeSean Jackson wore Cleats that had his team's color scheme and he was still fined. That's what prompted Beckham to say something in the first place.

[redsox4evur]

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DeSean Jackson wore Cleats that had his team's color scheme and he was still fined. That's what prompted Beckham to say something in the first place.

Did not know that was just off something I saw earlier on Twitter today.


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[PeoplesChampGB]

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Oh come on, you can't tell me you watch a game and take issue with someone else's cleats being a different colour from the rest of the teams?

As long as I can identify what team I'm looking at and which player I'm looking at, let them wear whatever cleats they want within reason (Nothing stupid, self centered, etc..).

Sports is about more than winning and losing, it's a platform to do great things and give back and help unite people.

If you are in the armed forces you are expected to have your uniform perfect down to the smallest detail. That's the problem. This is the NFL. Not boot camp.

It's just like any other job that requires a uniform. If you are out of uniform, you face the consequences.

[TheShizNo1]

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It's just like any other job that requires a uniform. If you are out of uniform, you face the consequences.

But this isn't any other job. And I would think most jobs don't call you out of uniform because of your shoe game.

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[Jr.]

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But this isn't any other job. And I would think most jobs don't call you out of uniform because of your shoe game.

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If they have rules for what shoes you have to wear they probably would/do.