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  • slickdtc
    Grayscale
    • Aug 2004
    • 17125

    #32341
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by ggsimmonds
    With the expanded format I don't think playoffs are too much of a longshot for Miami. I certainly don't see them as a threat in the playoffs though.

    In the end I think it depends on how one feels about moral victories like making the playoffs. Do you go with the vet because he gives you a better chance at sneaking into the playoffs? Or do you take advantage of the uniqueness of this season and jumpstarting the rookie's development? With near empty stadiums its a unique opportunity to gain experience against live NFL defenses going 100% without the added pressure of hostile crowds.


    I believe I said it when the news broke, but reminds me of Lamar Jackson taking over for Flacco. Miami has won 2 straight but we’re 1-3 before then, similar to a bumbling 4-5 Ravens team. Of course, Flacco was subpar by the eye and numbers test while Fitz has the Miami offense functioning relatively well, so going to Tua might not be the offensive spark Lamar was for the Ravens. And of course, we’ll see how Flores and his offensive staff mold the offense to cater to Tua’s strengths. Harbaugh & Roman were masterful with that in Year 1 and produced an MVP in Year 2.

    In an expanded playoff field, they probably will not rip off a 6-1 streak like Baltimore did but might not need to. The AFC is stacked at the top with Buffalo, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, and Kansas City so 5 of 7 spots. Cleveland and Indianapolis have positioned themselves well but I don’t see them being any more convincing than Oakland or Miami (or NE or LAC). Those last two wild card spots are totally up for grabs for whoever gets hot. Throw a wild card in the mix like Tua, you’ll get some highs and I’m sure some lows, but there’s a clear path to the playoffs if he and they play well even taking in to account the inevitable rookie struggles.

    As a division opponent, it’s worrisome. We know Fitz, we’ve beat him plenty... now that Miami game that I figured was a likely win is much murkier.
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    Originally posted by Money99
    And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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    • Jeffx
      MVP
      • Jan 2007
      • 3045

      #32342
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Truly a sad in NY sports talk radio with WFAN's Joe Beningo announcing his retirement. I've listened to Joe since he did overnights. I'm a Giants fan, but I always looked forward to Joe's rants after a Jet loss. The man bleeds NY and I appreciate that. Good luck, Joe.

      Unfortunately, I hear he's being replaced with the convicted felon Craig Carton. I'll pass on that loudmouth.

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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47562

        #32343
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Is the Tua situation about money?
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        • kehlis
          Moderator
          • Jul 2008
          • 27738

          #32344
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by jeebs9
          Is the Tua situation about money?
          Fair question but I doubt it, for NFL teams the potential loss for Fitz is essentially pocket change (to them).

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          • jeebs9
            Fear is the Unknown
            • Oct 2008
            • 47562

            #32345
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Originally posted by kehlis
            Fair question but I doubt it, for NFL teams the potential loss for Fitz is essentially pocket change (to them).
            Thanks. I'm not a money guy. I looked up their contracts before asking. Didn't see much. I know nothing about cap space either.

            I just wondered after seeing the above post about Jackson vs Flacco. Flacco was due some money if I'm not mistaken. I haven't even looked up with Jackson made the last 2 years. I can't imagine it was anything near that for a rookie. Screenshot_20201028-211510.jpgScreenshot_20201028-211418.jpg
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            • kehlis
              Moderator
              • Jul 2008
              • 27738

              #32346
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Most of that is irrelevant regarding this decision unless Fitz is moved at the deadline (extremely unlikely). It's about the incentives that Fitz could lose out on by lost starts.

              He's looking at losing somewhere between 1mm and 5mm depending on how the rest of the year goes.

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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47562

                #32347
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by kehlis
                Most of that is irrelevant regarding this decision unless Fitz is moved at the deadline (extremely unlikely). It's about the incentives that Fitz could lose out on by lost starts.

                He's looking at losing somewhere between 1mm and 5mm depending on how the rest of the year goes.
                Got it. Thanks!
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                • slickdtc
                  Grayscale
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 17125

                  #32348
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  It’s amazing how quickly things change in the NFL. Cam Newton’s star has fallen after the magnificent comeback story at the beginning of the year.

                  Good thing they didn’t give him the pay raise one of our fellow OS’ers was advocating for. He might not make it through the whole season as the starter at this rate.
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                  Originally posted by Money99
                  And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                  • areobee401
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 16771

                    #32349
                    NFL Off Topic

                    Yeah, because making the incentives fully guaranteed as an act of good faith would have crippled the cash-strapped Patriots.


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                    • TheShizNo1
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 26341

                      #32350
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Originally posted by slickdtc
                      It’s amazing how quickly things change in the NFL. Cam Newton’s star has fallen after the magnificent comeback story at the beginning of the year.

                      Good thing they didn’t give him the pay raise one of our fellow OS’ers was advocating for. He might not make it through the whole season as the starter at this rate.
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                      • slickdtc
                        Grayscale
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 17125

                        #32351
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        These last 20 years been rough, okay?! [emoji23]

                        Nah, I wasn’t trying to be disrespectful towards areobee. I appreciate his thoughts on this new era of Patriots football. It was just to illustrate how quickly things change. We all jumped on the Cam bandwagon after the first few weeks, but I still felt the deal was structured fairly with performance incentives given his recent injury history. I’m disappointed we’re not seeing Cam’s best still, because he’s so much fun to watch and unlike any other QB I’ve seen in the NFL.

                        I’ll save the real trash talk for this week’s Bills/Pats game. Tryna win this Super Bowl right quick. [emoji14]
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                        Originally posted by Money99
                        And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                        • Speedy
                          #Ace
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 16143

                          #32352
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                          As a Panthers fan, I knew the real Cam would show up.

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                          It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                          • areobee401
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 16771

                            #32353
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            Originally posted by slickdtc
                            These last 20 years been rough, okay?! [emoji23]

                            Nah, I wasn’t trying to be disrespectful towards areobee. I appreciate his thoughts on this new era of Patriots football. It was just to illustrate how quickly things change. We all jumped on the Cam bandwagon after the first few weeks, but I still felt the deal was structured fairly with performance incentives given his recent injury history. I’m disappointed we’re not seeing Cam’s best still, because he’s so much fun to watch and unlike any other QB I’ve seen in the NFL.

                            I’ll save the real trash talk for this week’s Bills/Pats game. Tryna win this Super Bowl right quick. [emoji14]

                            The talk around Cam certainly shifted with the quickness like you said. I can’t help but feel what he truly is today at age 31 coming off of injuries lies somewhere in the middle. Refuse to believe he’s THIS bad.

                            But the Patriots problems run deeper than QB1 unfortunately. The whole ship is a mess. Which is why the Bills better not blow this opportunity to win the AFC East. Patriots have not been this vulnerable in a long time. Bills fumble it away? Oh boy...


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                            • jeebs9
                              Fear is the Unknown
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 47562

                              #32354
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Originally posted by TheShizNo1
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                              • Master Live 013
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                                • Oct 2013
                                • 12327

                                #32355
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