Week 1 Discussion Thread

[jeebs9]

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Jeebs, you have to start giving context with some of the links you post.

No one is randomly clicking on links anymore.

Your right. I have a bad habit of doing that. My bad. I'll try to add more content I promise.


I guess I thought it was funny.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Add more context or provide context? Lol

[ProfessaPackMan]

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49ers RB Raheem Mostert will undergo knee surgery and miss the rest of the season, he’s announced.

[steelerfan]

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Add more context or provide context? Lol

Jeebs technically said he'd add more content. No mention of context. [emoji38]

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[jeebs9]

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Look at this route by Chase.... Jeeeez

https://twitter.com/thecheckdown/status/1437925350755819520?s=19

[ggsimmonds]

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He’s in that middle ground where he’s not a top tier QB, but you could do a lot worse. You end up with no choice but to give him a big contract or risk having a QB situation like the Bears or Washington

An average QB is just fine. Fanbases and the media make it seem like all teams should chase after top tier QBs and that is a bad trap to fall into.

In recent memory we saw it with Foles and Flacco where average QBs get hot at the right time and help deliver a ring. I think the Raiders have a long way to go however(do they just not have a running game or was there an injury I missed?).

I think Peyton's comical 6-11 prediction is pretty spot on. They are an average team all around and there isn't one area of the game where they jump out at you. On top of injuries, Baltimore collapsed in the 4th and OT. Carr threw for over 300 yards after the first half. That doesn't happen without the opposing defense falling apart.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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WFT Qb Ryan Fitzpatrick will be out the next 8 weeks after suffering a hip injury either during the game or before the game:

https://twitter.com/callmeferrari/status/1437493099702403072?s=21

[mestevo]

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That ejection on CLE was bull IMO. Harrison was trying to step over him, coach shoves him off and he gets a shove back and the player gets ejected? Coaches aren’t players. No hands on players whatsoever. Harrison wasn’t right, but that guy isn’t part of the game. Throw his *** out and fine Reid and the Chiefs. That’s like it a ref took a swing at a player. Players swinging on players isn’t right, and shoving a coach isn’t either, but personnel and officials should be held to the highest standard.

Harrison was fined $12,128 for the shove that resulted in his ejection.

The shove by the coach was reviewed and not deemed not worthy of a fine.

https://www.nfl.com/news/browns-safety-ronnie-harrison-fined-12-128-for-altercation-with-chiefs-rbs-coach

The incident: https://twitter.com/i/status/1437158019742289926

[slickdtc]

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Harrison was fined $12,128 for the shove that resulted in his ejection.



The shove by the coach was reviewed and not deemed not worthy of a fine.

https://www.nfl.com/news/browns-safety-ronnie-harrison-fined-12-128-for-altercation-with-chiefs-rbs-coach

The incident: https://twitter.com/i/status/1437158019742289926

Garbage decision by the NFL. Coach was the aggressor here, yet gets a talking to by the league and Harrison got ejected from the game (which included a blown coverage bomb to Tyreek later) and a fine. How does that make sense?

I just now found out that was Greg Lewis, former Eagles WR. I loved him in Philly, but he was wrong and I know he could afford the fine the NFL should’ve levied on him. Bad precedent, though they’re covering their asses in the future with a memo to the rest of the league.

Mike Tomlin got fined 100K for almost tripping Jacoby Jones for crying out loud.

[jeebs9]

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WFT Qb Ryan Fitzpatrick will be out the next 8 weeks after suffering a hip injury either during the game or before the game:

https://twitter.com/callmeferrari/st...702403072?s=21

Hahahaha hilarious comment

https://twitter.com/the_rel_world/status/1437521491109814273?s=19

[mestevo]

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Garbage decision by the NFL. Coach was the aggressor here, yet gets a talking to by the league and Harrison got ejected from the game (which included a blown coverage bomb to Tyreek later) and a fine. How does that make sense?

I just now found out that was Greg Lewis, former Eagles WR. I loved him in Philly, but he was wrong and I know he could afford the fine the NFL should’ve levied on him. Bad precedent, though they’re covering their asses in the future with a memo to the rest of the league.

Mike Tomlin got fined 100K for almost tripping Jacoby Jones for crying out loud.

Tomlin interfered with a live play, and Lewis pushed a player who appeared to be stepping on another player near his own sideline, post-play. You really can equate those two things?

Harrison retaliated as part of a situation that he chose to create. Period. No justification other than 'he pushed me'. Exponentially worse than the impetus and far more malicious. It doesn't excuse Lewis, but this was the predictable outcome.

[slickdtc]

Week 1 Discussion Thread

Tomlin interfered with a live play, and Lewis pushed a player who appeared to be stepping on another player near his own sideline, post-play. You really can equate those two things?



Harrison retaliated as part of a situation that he chose to create. Period. No justification other than 'he pushed me'. Exponentially worse than the impetus and far more malicious. It doesn't excuse Lewis, but this was the predictable outcome.

I can’t equate them because Lewis not only made contact (Tomlin did not) but made aggressive, deliberate contact on a dead ball. Dead ball shoving matches between players are usually judged more harshly than in-play, but that precedent can’t even be applied here because Lewis isn’t even a part of the on-field action.

Harrison was shouldered/blocked off by a KC player and his foot gets incidentally hung up on the downed KC player. He did nothing wrong, was big boyed by a OL and then shoved by a coach who somehow thought he should be the one to protect his player when there’s plenty of actual players who can (and already were) aiding their teammate. Not to mention Lewis misjudged what happened in the first place. But somehow Harrison is the only one who gets truly punished (the penalties offset) with a fine and essentially a game suspension (5 minutes left in first quarter).

I understand it’s your favorite team so your opinion is colored, but Harrison “created” nothing. A KC player’s actions put him in an awkward position and a coach got overly physical with him. I do believe he deserved a fine and probably even the ejection because of his own retaliatory shove, but Lewis getting off essentially scot free is mind boggling.

Team personnel and officials should be held to the highest standards, just as a player putting hands on an official is an auto-ejection. I’d like to see that rule extended to coaching staff/personnel on players. Seems unfairly unbalanced.

[DieHardYankee26]

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How did he create the situation? It looks like he was walking away and tripped over the guy on the ground lifting his leg.

[mestevo]

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I understand it’s your favorite team so your opinion is colored, but Harrison “created” nothing. A KC player’s actions put him in an awkward position and a coach got overly physical with him. I do believe he deserved a fine and probably even the ejection because of his own retaliatory shove, but Lewis getting off essentially scot free is mind boggling.

This is where we'll have to agree to disagree, because I don't think my opinion is colored by it being my team and I think in the context of 3 coaches helping a player up, only for that player to then be pinned back down to the ground by an opposing players cleat planted in his gut - pushing that player off isn't in the same ballpark as what followed (and we appear to agree with that). In that context, I can completely understand why there's no punishment for those coaches - but I think the context is the only reason why.

You'll like what Mike Pereira has to say on this - https://twitter.com/i/status/1437810395490705422

How did he create the situation? It looks like he was walking away and tripped over the guy on the ground lifting his leg.

He didn't have to walk over a player and into an offensive lineman to try to 'walk away' (tripped up or otherwise). The first frame of the clip literally starts with him on 2 feet on the other side of CEH having just stood up from the tackle. Whether he tried to step on him or not, he could have easily walked almost literally any other direction other than over the player on the ground. 45 walks behind him, so even with his foot in the air or tripped up he could have gone to his left. For some reason he decided to put all his weight on his right foot and face-plant into Humphrey.

Everyone else in the frame in red is going to help the RB on the ground, a simple step backwards or to the side and he'd have been out of all the post-play action. IMO this is especially apparent in the other angle.

[DieHardYankee26]

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The whole thing happened way too fast for him to have changed direction “after his foot was in the air or after being tripped up” but it is what it is. I’m sure if this is how things will go, guys will just have to make sure they get their money’s worth.