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  • illwill10
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2009
    • 19827

    #91
    Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by reyes the roof
    The interesting thing about their potential offense is they denied the Bears permission to interview Kellen Moore for their OC job, so maybe Harbaugh made it known he’d keep Moore if he gets the job. Moore is the last guy I’d expect Harbaugh to pick as his OC.
    Yeah, that was weird. You only block a coordinator from a former staff if you plan to retain him. I would assume that Harbaugh would have full control of his staff. Unless Harbaugh wants to maintain continuity with the offense, I wouldn't assume that Moore has any past history with Harbaugh.

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #92
      Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by illwill10
      It's almost like when Urban Meyer going to Jaguars. Going into a situation where you have a QB you can believe can be a game changer, with the ability to pair with a GM with familiarity, and talent to not be a full on rebuild
      They don’t even have a GM if I’m not mistaken.

      Which makes the hiring odd in that sense alone.
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • illwill10
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2009
        • 19827

        #93
        Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        They don’t even have a GM if I’m not mistaken.

        Which makes the hiring odd in that sense alone.
        Sorry that's what I meant to say. I meant to say he has a chance to be hired alongside a GM he is comfortable with. I guess the priority was to secure Harbaugh first and worry about GM later. I know I saw he has connections with the Giants Assistant GM Brown and they also interviewed a Ravens assistant.

        I do think GMs should be hired first. But, I mainly believe that GMs and Head Coaches need to be on the same page and understand the vision of the team. We've seen it in all of sports, where if the GM and HC aren't on the same page, it never works. Hell, I can quickly point to the Doc Rivers-Morey relationship. Where Rivers was hired first and was obviously given assurances prior to Morey getting there with roster control.

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        • slickdtc
          Grayscale
          • Aug 2004
          • 17125

          #94
          Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

          Harbaugh is going to be and needs to be the star of any HC/GM combo. I think he will basically be able to pick who he wants if he doesn’t want roster control to himself. Considering how it ended in SF with the Baalke and Harbaugh struggle, makes sense for LA to go this route.

          My guess on Moore is that they were looking to keep him with whoever came as HC or hire him as HC if other options failed, but they seemed to be out in front interviewing everyone under the sun and after Harbaugh got his NCAA FB title and became readily available, they couldn’t pass up going hard after him and abandoning the original plan. It worked.

          Something bad been in the water in LA/SD for a long time. Team gets obscenely hurt and has like gut wrenchingly bad luck for a very long time now under multiple coaches and regimes and rosters. There is not another person, player coach GM owner, who inspires confidence that you will be a winner like Harbaugh has everywhere he’s been. This guy was Rich Gannon’s QB coach in his MVP year at age 37!! I just learned that, it was the cherry on top to go with his HC record everywhere. This is the best hire the Chargers could and might ever make.
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          Originally posted by Money99
          And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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          • illwill10
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2009
            • 19827

            #95
            Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

            Seemingly official

            Not my ideal choice, just because they seem obsessed with the Fangio defense. They wanted to sign him last year and he wants to be close to home/family. I guess the upside is that Miami was top 10 on yards allowed and 3rd in sacks. The other benefit is that instead of going after protégés who run variances of his defense, you're getting the architect of the defense.

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            • slickdtc
              Grayscale
              • Aug 2004
              • 17125

              #96
              Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

              Total blasphemy, but he’s got a Jim Johnson look to him there.

              I was a bit concerned Harbaugh might try to poach him to come with him to LA (worked together in SF), but that would be a whole country away from his family. Philly is a better team as is anyway.
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              Originally posted by Money99
              And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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              • illwill10
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2009
                • 19827

                #97
                Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by slickdtc
                Total blasphemy, but he’s got a Jim Johnson look to him there.

                I was a bit concerned Harbaugh might try to poach him to come with him to LA (worked together in SF), but that would be a whole country away from his family. Philly is a better team as is anyway.
                Minter seems like a lock to follow Harbaugh as the DC. With the success of the MacDonald defense with the Ravens, I'm sure Minter thinks he can have similar success.

                Another positive with Fangio is the experience. I think having a more established veteran coach might be the route to go for a younger HC. I almost think they should go the same route for OC. It doesn't have to be a veteran coach, but an offensive coach who Sirrani will be willing to control the offense

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                • fugazi
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 3749

                  #98
                  Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                  So, Jerry...there's at least a couple of top-shelf coaches available this off-season, and your team once again was out-coached and under-prepared for the post-season...

                  Jerry: No one feels the pain of this loss more than I do...but we've got something good started here and I want to see it through. I have the utmost faith in Jason Garret...I mean Mike McCarthy...
                  Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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                  • slickdtc
                    Grayscale
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 17125

                    #99
                    Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                    Sounds like Dave Canales, OC from TB, is headed to Carolina to become their new HC.
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                    Originally posted by Money99
                    And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                    • reyes the roof
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 11526

                      #100
                      Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by illwill10
                      Seemingly official

                      Not my ideal choice, just because they seem obsessed with the Fangio defense. They wanted to sign him last year and he wants to be close to home/family. I guess the upside is that Miami was top 10 on yards allowed and 3rd in sacks. The other benefit is that instead of going after protégés who run variances of his defense, you're getting the architect of the defense.
                      I thought he did an awesome job in Chicago, it seemed like he could plug anyone in the secondary and they’d be productive

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                      • illwill10
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 19827

                        #101
                        Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by reyes the roof
                        I thought he did an awesome job in Chicago, it seemed like he could plug anyone in the secondary and they’d be productive
                        Well Philly was certainly need that. It seems like both Slay and Bradberry is on the decline


                        Three jobs left, Commanders, Seahawks, and Falcons. I feel like it'll be Belichick, Vrabel, and Ben Johnson. If I were to guess, it'll be Belichick to Falcons, Johnson to Commanders, and Vrabel to Seahawks. I think Johnson's is as high as it can get and Commanders do offer having the 2nd overall pick with chance to draft and develop a QB. I just don't see Vrabel and Belichick not being the choices, unless they don't like the situations.

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                        • The Chef
                          Moderator
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 13684

                          #102
                          Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                          Atlanta hiring Rams DC Raheem Morris as the next HC so Seattle and Washington remain while Belichick is still trying to find work and Vrabel is floating out there.

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                          • illwill10
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 19827

                            #103
                            Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by The Chef
                            Atlanta hiring Rams DC Raheem Morris as the next HC so Seattle and Washington remain while Belichick is still trying to find work and Vrabel is floating out there.

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                            It feels like Belichick and Vrabel might end up not coaching this year. I sense Commanders will wait for Ben Johnson. Seahawks feel like the wildcard

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                            • Kramer5150
                              Medicore Mike
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 7395

                              #104
                              Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                              Can someone please shed a little light on this for me?

                              Why in the HELL would the Steelers interview the OC from Carolina when they themselves had the worst offense in the NFL last season?

                              The Panthers had the worst offense in the NFL last season, ranking No. 32 in yards and No. 31 in points scored. Carolina went 2-15 in 2023.
                              Hell the combination of Sullivan and Faulkner weren't THIS bad, this guy is Matt Canada terrible all over again.

                              I understand it's only an interview, but with how bad the Panther offense was this is really a head scratcher.
                              People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
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                              • southernmetalhead
                                Inter Miami
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 3862

                                #105
                                Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                                Maybe if Belichick and Vrabel remain unemployed, they can do a podcast.

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