2024 Offseason Thread

[Kramer5150]

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Oh my!! This possibly could be huge if the Steelers decide to go this route...

Former Steelers Offensive Line Coach Mike Munchak Could Be Interested In a Return To Pittsburgh If Arthur Smith Gets Hired

What makes the potential hiring of Smith even more intriguing is his past working relationship with Munchak according to Fittipaldo.

This connection could play a pivotal role in Munchak deciding he would be open to returning to Pittsburgh to coach the offensive line again.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/former-steelers-offensive-line-coach-mike-munchak-could-be-interested-in-a-return-to-pittsburgh-if-arthur-smith-gets-hired/ar-BB1hrlPJ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=77b013c1ede04dab8898d0c81ff4f5ad&ei=21

[georgiafan]

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Do yall want Arthur as oc?

Oh my!! This possibly could be huge if the Steelers decide to go this route...




https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...1ff4f5ad&ei=21

[Kramer5150]

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Considering what he did in Tennessee, yes I would, just because his stint as the Falcons HC wasn't successful, doesn't mean he was a bad OC, some OC's aren't HC material (Josh McDaniels)

Taken from that same article....

“Smith was a well-respected offensive coordinator for the Titans in 2019 and 2020 before he moved on to the Atlanta. The Titans made it all the way to the AFC championship game in 2019 before they lost to the eventual Super Bowl champions, the Kansas City Chiefs.”

“In 2019, the Titans were 10th in the league in scoring and total offense. In 2020, when they lost to the Ravens in an AFC wild card game, they were third in total offense and fourth in scoring.”

Plus possibly bringing Munchak back to Pittsburgh??

[LambertandHam]

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Well it's official. Arthur Smith as the new Steelers OC. I don't like the hire at first read. Reminds me of Pitt's last OC before hiring Bell.

[illwill10]

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Wow, certainly thought he would take a job this year
I did see that his asking price was $15m

[SonOfEd]

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Wow, certainly thought he would take a job this year
I did see that his asking price was $15m

Yes!!!!
I think the $15 mil was directed at what it'd take to put up with the Panthers owner, trying to bid himself out of it.

[illwill10]

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I do wonder where Washington pivots. If seems like they wanted to go with a "hot oc" to pair with the #2 OVr pick/QB. As far as know, only offensive guys they interviewed was the Texans OC and Eric B. If I were to guess I can see them pivot to MacDonald

It feels like the Vrabel buzz died down immediately before the Belichick buzz did

[Kramer5150]

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Well it's official. Arthur Smith as the new Steelers OC. I don't like the hire at first read. Reminds me of Pitt's last OC before hiring Bell.

TBH, I wasn't thrilled at first either, but I was just going off of his stint as the Falcons HC, which obviously didn't work out.

But seeing what he was able to do with the Titans offense, has me a bit curious, it's debatable if the Steelers have the QB to run his style of offense (heavily relying on PA) also throw in the lackluster oline, also the Titans had Henry as well, could the 2headed monster of Warren and Harris produce like Henty did? who knows...

The possibilty of bringing back Munchak is huge though, if the Steelers can bring him back, then Smith's type of offense may just be successful.

Now if the Steelers cut Trubisky, have an open and FAIR QB' competition between Pickett and Rudolph (if he resigns) per Tomlin, bring in either a vet or draft a QB, things could definitely get interesting...

[slickdtc]

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I loved Arthur Smith as an OC. I was interested in him possibly coming to Buffalo.

My guess is if Washington was going to go for Johnson, they’ll change to Slowik now. Surprised Commanders job hasn’t been more coveted.

I want to see what Seattle does. It’s going to be very hard to follow up the standard that Carrol helped establish there — with Carrol looking over your shoulder! I don’t think a Vrabel or BB will work like that so it gives me the feeling this will be kind of an out of left field hire.

Good on Johnson for running it back with Detroit, love to see that. That’s twice now, I believe he had taken himself out of consideration for some jobs last year too.

[Hooe]

2024 Offseason Thread

Ben Johnson staying in Detroit might be the most important staffing decision of this offseason.

He’s damn good at what he does, especially with empowering his offense to change their run calls presnap to get into the right concept against whatever front opposes them.

The Lions will have $60M of cap room to play with in March and only four of their pending free agents played more than 50% of available snaps. Between that state of affairs and Johnson’s unexpected return, right now I have no reason to believe they won’t be right back in the thick of it next January.

[Hooe]

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Total blasphemy, but he’s got a Jim Johnson look to him there.

Late, but just to make sure we are all on the same page: Vic Fangio and Jim Johnson (RIP) could not be more philosophically opposed as defensive minds.

Jim Johnson’s defenses were all about aggression, stacking the line of scrimmage presnap, blitzing from all angles of the field (especially from the secondary), and mixed coverages behind those blitzes.

Vic Fangio’s defense at a high level will be similar to the ones the Eagles were already running under Jonathan Gannon and Sean Desai — lots of 2-hi looks and split field coverages, post-snap coverage rotations to make the quarterback work while the ball is live, and an extremely strong preference to rush four and drop seven with coverage being favored over blitzing.

Fangio will probably be better at calling the defense on Sundays than Desai was, and certainly he will do better than Matt Patricia who ran the Eagles’ defense into the ground. But in order for Fangio’s defense to really succeed the Eagles are going to have to pair this hire with some wholesale roster changes at off-ball linebacker (I can’t remember the last time the Eagles invested significant resources at this position) and in the secondary (they have a lot of big names, but with the exception of Darius Slay they all got old fast this past year).

[LambertandHam]

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TBH, I wasn't thrilled at first either, but I was just going off of his stint as the Falcons HC, which obviously didn't work out.

But seeing what he was able to do with the Titans offense, has me a bit curious, it's debatable if the Steelers have the QB to run his style of offense (heavily relying on PA) also throw in the lackluster oline, also the Titans had Henry as well, could the 2headed monster of Warren and Harris produce like Henty did? who knows...

The possibilty of bringing back Munchak is huge though, if the Steelers can bring him back, then Smith's type of offense may just be successful.

Now if the Steelers cut Trubisky, have an open and FAIR QB' competition between Pickett and Rudolph (if he resigns) per Tomlin, bring in either a vet or draft a QB, things could definitely get interesting...

I miss Munchak

[illwill10]

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Late, but just to make sure we are all on the same page: Vic Fangio and Jim Johnson (RIP) could not be more philosophically opposed as defensive minds.

Jim Johnson’s defenses were all about aggression, stacking the line of scrimmage presnap, blitzing from all angles of the field (especially from the secondary), and mixed coverages behind those blitzes.

Vic Fangio’s defense at a high level will be similar to the ones the Eagles were already running under Jonathan Gannon and Sean Desai — lots of 2-hi looks and split field coverages, post-snap coverage rotations to make the quarterback work while the ball is live, and an extremely strong preference to rush four and drop seven with coverage being favored over blitzing.

Fangio will probably be better at calling the defense on Sundays than Desai was, and certainly he will do better than Matt Patricia who ran the Eagles’ defense into the ground. But in order for Fangio’s defense to really succeed the Eagles are going to have to pair this hire with some wholesale roster changes at off-ball linebacker (I can’t remember the last time the Eagles invested significant resources at this position) and in the secondary (they a lot of big names, but with the exception of Darius Slay they all got old fast this past year).

I guess the last significant LB move was reaching for Davion Taylor in the 3rd round in 2020 or 2021 when he only had less than four or five years playing the sport. Before that was Nigel Bradham, and before that was drafting guys like Jordan Hicks and Kendricks a decade ago. Recently, I can say Nakobe Dean in the third round. I don't think he got listed for a missed tackle before he got hurt, but didn't feel like he made the type of impact where you couldn't upgrade over him. Howie Roseman doesn't place a high priority on LBs. Felt like they have been going the cheap route and trying to strike gold on the Vet Min market.

I'm not super high on Fangio. I just feel like they were dead set on the Fangio defense. But, I do like the idea of getting more adults in the room. It felt outside of DL Coach Rucker, most of the defensive staff was very inexperienced. So, if they can at least clean up the communication issues, open field tackling, and giving up sustaining drives, the defense should be vastly improved. But, I agree that back 7 needs to be addressed. Defense in general needs to be the main priority this offseason. I can see giving Dean another full year, but they need an established quality LB next to him, not another Vet min or washed up LB. I'm good with Slay for another year. But, they have to move on from Bradberry. They drafted Ringo in the third and got a young of promising outside CBs, but wouldn't oppose another starting outside CB. I like Maddox at SCB, but he just can't stay healthy and they did trade for Isaiah Rodgers from Colts last year(who was suspended). They have to address Safety as well. I like Blankenship, but he's probably best suited as a third Safety. I think Sydney Brown has potential, but did tear his ACL in the final game. Besides a INT, Kevin Byard didn't do anything special to bring him back. That's somewhere they missed Gardener-Johnson. But, I wouldn't want him back because he's a liability in the run game.

[Kramer5150]

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I miss Munchak

Tell me about it..
I just hope he does come back.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Wow, certainly thought he would take a job this year
I did see that his asking price was $15m

Lol ain’t no way in hell I believe Owners balked at that number.