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  • MrJCOreo
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    • Feb 2013
    • 71

    #61
    Re: Official New York Jets Thread

    Just wanted a gauge on what any Jets fans thought for a Revis trade. If it does happen, does this sound unreasonable to ya'll? This years first (#13 OVR) and a conditional pick (a first if he makes 1st team Pro-Bowl, second if it is 2nd team Pro-Bowl, a fifth if he doesn't make either but plays the entire year, and nothing if he doesn't) in the 2014 draft. The only reason anyone would trade this much for a player is the expectation of acquiring someone at a pro-bowl level so I believe this stipulation should be fair ESPECIALLY since he's coming off an ACL tear. Any of ya'll think this would be fair or am I off the mark?
    Last edited by MrJCOreo; 04-18-2013, 11:43 AM.

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    • Jeff8275
      Rookie
      • Mar 2003
      • 215

      #62
      Re: Official New York Jets Thread

      Originally posted by MrJCOreo
      Just wanted a gauge on what any Jets fans thought for a Revis trade. If it does happen, does this sound unreasonable to ya'll? This years first (#13 OVR) and a conditional pick (a first if he makes 1st team Pro-Bowl, second if it is 2nd team Pro-Bowl, a fifth if he doesn't make either but plays the entire year, and nothing if he doesn't) in the 2014 draft. The only reason anyone would trade this much for a player is the expectation of acquiring someone at a pro-bowl level so I believe this stipulation should be fair ESPECIALLY since he's coming off an ACL tear. Any of ya'll think this would be fair or am I off the mark?
      They have an agreement done now. Looks like at least a 1st, 3rd & 5th this year and a conditional pick in 2014 (I'm hoping for at least a 3rd). I think this is a great deal. The Jets were never going to pay 15-16 mil for a CB especially on a team that has major needs at multiple positions (S, OL, QB, WR, LB). These picks and clearing that cap room give the Jets major relief and lots of options to build. This is exactly what they need. Great day for Jets organization my opinion. I'm hoping they trade down from #9 now and gather more picks. Take Tavon Austin with the 13th pick cause we need a playmaker in the worst way. Take best available OL with whatever 1st round pick they get in return for #9. And then a S in the 2nd and a pass rusher if we get another 2nd round pick from trading down. In the 3rd maybe we get lucky and EJ Manuel falls to 3rd round. Otherwise take best available LB and CB with our 2 3rd round picks. 4th - 7th is all about getting depth at OL, WR, DL & LB in my opinion. I hope we don't take a QB at all though in this draft. We have so many holes to fill and way too many lackluster QBs already.
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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #63
        Thoughts on this growing QB battle.

        I'm gonna say this knowing he isn't a HOF talent but Geno Smith is the guy I want starting next year.

        If you draft him, you play him.

        If I see Sanchez under center to start the year, I'm not watching a single game.


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        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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        • bigeastbumrush
          My Momma's Son
          • Feb 2003
          • 19245

          #64
          Re: Official New York Jets Thread

          I don't think there is a QB battle. It just seems like ESPN/NFL Network hype train. Like they're looking for a story or something.

          Sanchez was the laughing stock of the league and now everyone's acting surprised that we drafted a QB?

          Typical media blowing things way out of proportion.

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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #65
            Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
            I don't think there is a QB battle. It just seems like ESPN/NFL Network hype train. Like they're looking for a story or something.

            Sanchez was the laughing stock of the league and now everyone's acting surprised that we drafted a QB?

            Typical media blowing things way out of proportion.
            You're right. I guess I figured the battle would be between Gerrard and Smith. But I think it makes more sense that Gerrard is the veteran that helps Smith ease into the role.

            Sanchez has to be cut at this point. Even if you owe him money, just get on with it.


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            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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            • NYJetsfan
              Banned
              • Jul 2003
              • 926

              #66
              Really loved our draft. Idzik seems totally committed to BPA, which is sorely needed to rebuild the talent level.

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              • bigeastbumrush
                My Momma's Son
                • Feb 2003
                • 19245

                #67
                Re: Official New York Jets Thread

                Originally posted by CMH
                You're right. I guess I figured the battle would be between Gerrard and Smith. But I think it makes more sense that Gerrard is the veteran that helps Smith ease into the role.

                Sanchez has to be cut at this point. Even if you owe him money, just get on with it.


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                Agreed- Garrard mentoring Smith.

                I think they actually might hang onto Sanchez. He's dead money either way. But like with Flynn in Seattle, think they'll hold onto him hoping to find any takers.

                I think Tebow will be released any day now. Couldn't even deal him for a 7th rounder so I expect him to be gone.

                Can't say we didn't address the O-line this year

                I would've liked to have seen a Safety. Easily the weakest position on the roster.

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                • NYJets
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 18637

                  #68
                  Re: Official New York Jets Thread

                  I'd let Garrard and Smith compete for the starting job. Cut Tebow. I'm indifferent to what they do with Sanchez, just do whatever they think is best cap wise. But he can't be a serious candidate to play anymore. I think he's shot, especially here.
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                  • bigeastbumrush
                    My Momma's Son
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 19245

                    #69
                    Re: Official New York Jets Thread

                    Just saw that we picked up an UDFA Safety Rontez Miles.

                    Looks like a complete beast on YouTube. Just blowing up everyone he hits. I thin he'll make the roster.

                    It's rare I watch a player's video and say Wow.

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                    • gausec
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 1034

                      #70
                      Re: Official New York Jets Thread

                      Well its official the Jets cut Timmy Tebow
                      Cal is turning more guys into millionaires than wall-street.

                      Everyone went pro from the 2012 Kentucky team even the ball boy!

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                      • NYJetsfan
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 926

                        #71
                        Re: Official New York Jets Thread

                        I <3 Idzik.

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                        • bigeastbumrush
                          My Momma's Son
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 19245

                          #72
                          Re: Official New York Jets Thread

                          Gotta love what Idzik is doing.

                          In addition to the 3rd round pick that we'll get in 2014 from Tampa Bay for the Darrelle Revis trade, we'll probably be getting the maximum 4 Compensatory draft picks as well.

                          We lost these free agents (all starters with value, which is how compensatory picks are determined)-
                          Moore
                          Slauson
                          Keller
                          Greene
                          Devito
                          Landry
                          Bell

                          They all signed as FAs with other teams.

                          Technically, we only signed players who were released/cut. They don't count against FAs you acquired because they were released by their previous teams.
                          Garay
                          Barnes
                          Landry
                          Colon
                          Pace

                          Mike Goodson I believe was the only outright FA. But we lost enough players to cover the one signed.

                          In addition to all of the draft picks, we should have a ton of cap space with the release of Sanchez next year, possible release of Holmes and possibly reworking David Harris' deal.

                          Idzik has positioned us well for the future. We just have to get through the lumps this year.

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                          • NYJetsfan
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 926

                            #73
                            Re: Official New York Jets Thread

                            The Jets are reportedly going to have around $51 million in cap room going into the 2014 season. That is staggering considering where things were going into this season. Now some of that money will go to resigning Wilkerson, but he's literally the only player worth a damn they will need to worry about going into 2014. Mangold's deal is up after 2015, so they could try and get that done a year early with all that cap space as well.

                            Idzik is truly working some magic.

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                            • DirtyJerz32
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                              • Aug 2007
                              • 7617

                              #74
                              Re: Official New York Jets Thread

                              As a Jet fan there's no reason to even have Sanchez on your roster. He has the lower QBR of any QB the last 4 years. He's gotten projessivley worse every year since his rookie year.

                              Sometimes you gotta cut dead weight and Sanchez is the heaviest on the roster. Time to cut ties...
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                              • bigeastbumrush
                                My Momma's Son
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19245

                                #75
                                Re: Official New York Jets Thread

                                Originally posted by DirtyJerz32_OS
                                As a Jet fan there's no reason to even have Sanchez on your roster. He has the lower QBR of any QB the last 4 years. He's gotten projessivley worse every year since his rookie year.

                                Sometimes you gotta cut dead weight and Sanchez is the heaviest on the roster. Time to cut ties...
                                I disagree.

                                He has value, even as bad as his contract is.

                                Any GM worth his salt would not just jettison him away without looking for value back. If all you can get for him is a 7th pick, even that is worth something.

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