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  • nikethebike
    MVP
    • Aug 2007
    • 1183

    #316
    Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

    Originally posted by DJ NEO
    Timing, Speed, Transitions & A.I. Of Real-Time Presentation Events

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    When it comes to goal celebrations I like the ones where they turn to their team mates best. There are some really off celebration animations in this game like the one where he kind of runs on his skates or waving his arm then pointing... Also the timing as the celebration starts way after the goal was scored. Like it first dont matter the puck went in then its the greatest thing ever. There was also this feeling that the rules of physics stopped after a goal in some of the animations.

    Its nice youre working on this.


    Also the collisions between players, ref on faceoffs etc always looked a bit bad and could need improvements.
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    • DJ NEO
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      • Aug 2010
      • 827

      #317
      Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

      yeah, that's what I did as shown in the vids above.

      I made the players' reaction much sooner after he scored a goal.
      Also raised the possibility that a player goes straight to his teammate after he scores a goal.

      Didn't wanna do it in every case because that's not what is happening in real life (every time) and I wanna keep the variety.

      Not sure if I can look at the celebration animations one by one for the 0.8 release, because I want it to be out at the end of this month, but it's definitely "on the radar" Lol

      Fixed goal celebration timing:

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      Fixed the "helmet sweat" animation:

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      Last edited by DJ NEO; 04-28-2020, 05:59 AM.

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      • nikethebike
        MVP
        • Aug 2007
        • 1183

        #318
        Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

        The timing looked just right there! But why does that sweat or helmet fix animation bother you to the point that you want to remove it?
        If everyone just skates straight to the bench they look more generic and robotic as a group in my opinion.


        But I like your post. Good work.
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        • DJ NEO
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          • Aug 2010
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          #319
          Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

          On that "fixed" part of the video players using all just one animation, that is why it looks kinda generic. I had to bring the others back (except the sweat one) later but didn't update the clip.

          It bothered me because it doesn't make any sense for hockey players with helmet Lol and it happened all the time from 2k10.


          Timing, Speed & A.I. For "Block" Animations

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          Last edited by DJ NEO; 04-30-2020, 08:50 AM.

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          • nikethebike
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            • Aug 2007
            • 1183

            #320
            Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

            I really can't wait to test this out. I just hope that it will be crash free for me.
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            • DJ NEO
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              • Aug 2010
              • 827

              #321
              Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

              Ya, game is 100% crash free now, to the point that I could even turn ON some of the 3D crowd.

              I also solved that annoying loop

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              • scagwi
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 2718

                #322
                Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

                As always, very exciting to see the progress.

                How long until there's a new "latest version" for us normal folk to test out again?

                Thx Neo

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                • DJ NEO
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                  • Aug 2010
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                  #323
                  Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

                  not sure about the exact date yet, but sometimes at the end of May.

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                  • nikethebike
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                    • Aug 2007
                    • 1183

                    #324
                    Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

                    Originally posted by DJ NEO
                    Ya, game is 100% crash free now, to the point that I could even turn ON some of the 3D crowd.

                    I also solved that annoying loop
                    Now this is extremely good news.
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                    • nikethebike
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                      • Aug 2007
                      • 1183

                      #325
                      Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

                      Originally posted by DJ NEO
                      On that "fixed" part of the video players using all just one animation, that is why it looks kinda generic. I had to bring the others back (except the sweat one) later but didn't update the clip.

                      It bothered me because it doesn't make any sense for hockey players with helmet Lol and it happened all the time from 2k10.


                      Timing, Speed & A.I. For "Block" Animations

                      <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VLTiVRrEdT4" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0"></iframe>

                      I love the details you are fixing!


                      At 0:12 in that clip Howe goes for a slapshot. That animation is strange in a couple of ways. Don't know if you can do anything about it.



                      First his legs makes this quick movement of pulling together just before going back to the exact same position they originally had. Second, he uses his stick to take the puck quickly from right to left, but as he raises his stick the puck magically slides toward him from the left defying the laws of physics. I guess this has to do with the animations and guess it can be tough to do anything about it but thought I'd mention it considering what you've been able to tweak before.
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                      • DJ NEO
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                        • Aug 2010
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                        #326
                        Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

                        Improved Defensive A.I. Gap Awareness

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                        • nikethebike
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                          • Aug 2007
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                          #327
                          Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

                          Perhaps this is a stupid question but am I supposed to notice a difference in the first compared to the later ones or is it that the defenders keep backing up instead of attacking the puck carrier?
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                          • DJ NEO
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                            • Aug 2010
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                            #328
                            Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

                            Nope, I just re-loaded the state of the game from the same frame over and over again to be sure the ai react as I expected in most cases.

                            The outcomes slightly differ, but it's pretty much correct.

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                            • nikethebike
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1183

                              #329
                              Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

                              Originally posted by DJ NEO
                              Nope, I just re-loaded the state of the game from the same frame over and over again to be sure the ai react as I expected in most cases.

                              The outcomes slightly differ, but it's pretty much correct.
                              Ok, awesome. Did you need to tweak this? Was the previous behaviour that defenders sometimes charged out of position in this case, correct?


                              Does player attributes play a role? Aggression for instance?
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                              • DJ NEO
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                                • Aug 2010
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                                #330
                                Re: 2KHS v0.7 (Nov 2019 release)

                                Lol

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