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  • mercalnd
    MVP
    • Oct 2004
    • 4262

    #46
    Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

    Originally posted by Money99
    And I think if this was done by any other player, it wouldn't be a big deal. But too many people are tired of his act.
    While I still think that public comments about opponents' loved ones should remain off-limits in any major sports league, I do agree that if it were any other player there would have been much less attention drawn to it. The league would probably have just handed a fine and requiested a public apology for the comments.

    Interestingly, Georges Laraque was interviewed yesterday on RDS. He was the player involved in the racial slur incident. He said that at the time the league told him they couldn' do anything because there was no proof but they also said "Don't worry he'll do something stupid at some point and it'll come back to bite him in the rear end."

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    • Money99
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2002
      • 12696

      #47
      Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

      Originally posted by mercalnd
      While I still think that public comments about opponents' loved ones should remain off-limits in any major sports league, I do agree that if it were any other player there would have been much less attention drawn to it. The league would probably have just handed a fine and requiested a public apology for the comments.

      Interestingly, Georges Laraque was interviewed yesterday on RDS. He was the player involved in the racial slur incident. He said that at the time the league told him they couldn' do anything because there was no proof but they also said "Don't worry he'll do something stupid at some point and it'll come back to bite him in the rear end."
      Hahaha! That's a great quote. And how right it is.

      Check out this quote from Avery's former LA teammate, Eric Belanger:

      "He's different. He needs attention and that's the way he gets it," Eric Belanger said of Avery. "The thing is, he's not a bad person. I've hung out with him, and he's a nice person when he's by himself. But I don't know, he needs the attention and says stupid stuff all the time."

      "And I was his linemate and I wore a visor," said Belanger, a French-Canadian, shaking his head. "That afternoon, he kept calling me and kept calling me. I finally answered the phone and he apologized a million times. I told him, 'Sean, you've got to be careful what you say.' He said, 'I didn't mean it, I was [angry].'

      "That's the thing. A lot of times he thinks after he says things. A lot of things he does is to get the attention of other teams. That's his whole game. When he doesn't do that, he's not as effective. He tries to get guys rattled so they go after him and take stupid penalties."

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      • Skerik
        Living in this tube
        • Mar 2004
        • 5215

        #48
        Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

        A lot of people have speculated that Avery is bipolar.

        Regardless, good riddance. Agitators have had a place in the league since the dawn of time, but there's no place for an agitator who is all talk, a poor hockey player, and a poor teammate to boot who doesn't respect the game in the least.

        You can burn bridges with ownership and emerge unscathed if you're a talented enough player, but once you burn bridges among the fraternity of NHL players (which is a lot closer knit than most other professional sports leagues), you're pretty much toast.
        Helen: Everyone's special, Dash.
        Dash: [muttering] Which is another way of saying no one is.

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        • McLite
          MVP
          • Feb 2003
          • 2113

          #49
          Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

          I don't know hockey at all, and have never heard of this guy before the whole "every 15 minutes on the news clip" but I think it's hilarious that getting warned before every clip about language when it's just "sloppy seconds" is pretty funny to me.

          I'd be pissed too though if I used to date Elisha Cuthbert and now someone else was! My gosh just doing a Google image search to find a picture to put in this message...
          - The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.

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          • Cletus
            MVP
            • Oct 2004
            • 1771

            #50
            Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

            Originally posted by Money99
            That's just it. NHL players talk. The grapevine is active and large. I can't see another NHL locker room saying "Yeah, bring in Avery. We need him".
            From LA to Dallas, too many teammates have had issues with him. He made fun of Dustin Brown's lisp for crying out loud.

            No matter how bad a team is, or how much help they might need, I don't see him ever playing in an NHL uniform again.
            And to be honest, I'm not sure the KHL would want him either.
            He's already talked disparagingly about French-Canadian players, woman and rumored to have made some racial slurs. What do you think he'd do in Europe? He'd probably insult their culture too.

            I see Avery getting bought out or buried in the ECHL or an even lower-end league.
            He's done and he has nobody to blame but himself.

            At this point, I think the bigger drama will come from what happens to Hull. He's the sole reason why Avery was signed in Dallas and had to convince Les Jackson and Tom Hicks to approve the deal. He could very well share a cab with Avery out of town.
            The stars only have an ECHL affiliate so he's pretty much going to have to be let go. There's basically no way (unless there was a clause in Avery's contract) that the Stars can't get rid of him without a cap hit. People in Dallas (the few hockey fans there are) love Hull. Hicks is already unpopular enough with the DFW area for how he's ran the Texas Rangers and doesn't need any more bad press for getting rid of Hull. If Hull goes, he will resign. I don't see Hicks wanting the press of firing Hull. It's not that hockey is covered in Dallas, but Hicks is rather unpopular so that news will carry itself.


            Also, if the guy was capable of playing hockey this wouldn't be a big deal. Look at Theo Fleury and Craig MacTavish. Avery has no skills, people, hockey, intelligence, etc. at all. I'm actually an Avery fan, he gives the NHL press which is what it needs. He just can't play hockey and he's not an enforcer so he gets a really short lease.
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            • Psyblast
              2023 National Champions
              • Jun 2003
              • 42584

              #51
              Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

              Warning: language.

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              • ThreeKing
                Banned
                • Aug 2007
                • 5852

                #52
                Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

                Originally posted by Psyblast

                I don't like Avery, but that lady is a clown.

                She wants to run with the big dogs, but once it hits the fan, she goes running back for the porch.

                Some fans crack me up. Don't get mad if a player snaps back at you and you hear something YOU don't like.

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                • nyisles16
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 8317

                  #53
                  Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

                  Looks like Dallas wants to get rid of him.. and one of their minor league teams does not want anything to do with Avery.

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                  • nyisles16
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 8317

                    #54
                    Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

                    NHL handed down the ban... 6 games (2 of which were already served)..

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                    • Money99
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 12696

                      #55
                      Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

                      Originally posted by nyisles16
                      Looks like Dallas wants to get rid of him.. and one of their minor league teams does not want anything to do with Avery.

                      http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=258453&l...headlines_main
                      I heard that on XM this morning. The owner of the Manitoba Moose (which Dallas has a loose relationship with) wants nothing to do with him.
                      And because Avery's a veteran he cannot be sent to the ECHL without his consent.

                      He's going to be waived and if nobody picks him up, they'll wait until the offseason to buy him out.

                      Either way, his days as a Star are over and most likely his NHL career is over too.
                      Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

                      I detest narcissists and bullies. Avery is both.

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                      • allBthere
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 5847

                        #56
                        Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

                        Originally posted by ThreeKing
                        I don't like Avery, but that lady is a clown.

                        She wants to run with the big dogs, but once it hits the fan, she goes running back for the porch.

                        Some fans crack me up. Don't get mad if a player snaps back at you and you hear something YOU don't like.
                        I agree w/ you. If you insult someone it's fair play after that-. You blow up huge posters and call 'turtleman' etc. and he blasts herback (not even in the media) and she gets all upset???

                        Why is everyone so upset over the sloppy seconds thing? who cares? It just shows that YOU care too much about what an idiot says. Maybe TSN shouldn't have aired it?

                        He's given the NHL a bunch of press too, and it's not 'bad' really - it's not like people see this and think 'what a league of disturbed individuals, i'm not watching hockey'.

                        If they are going to suspend him, they should have made him sign something agreeing not to speak to the press, then nail him after a breach.

                        for people saying 'he's at work etc.'

                        it's not the same. he's allowed to fight at work, you're not. He's allowed to spit on the ground 300 times a game, you're not. He's allowed to swear profusely throught games, you're not.

                        His workplace is very different than yours. I tend to think of athletes as freelancers in a way. I don't really think of them as employees of the NHL, but more like entrepreneurs in a way. In my mind he can say whatever the hell he wants, and it's up to the public to judge him.

                        He's made everyone hate him, and everyone think he's a waste of space - that doesn't mean I agree w/ the NHL suspending him for comments. It's not demeaning to women either, I don't buy that argument.
                        Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.

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                        • Taur3asi3
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 3727

                          #57
                          Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

                          Awesome job NHL, saying something in the press is now viewed as being worse than head hunting, cheapshots, and hitting a guy from behind head 1st into the boards. Awesome precedent. Avery would've been better off if he had just drilled Dion from behind and sent him out on a stretcher.
                          As Shaquille O'Neal left the Suns practice court, he yelled out, "Alvin's the coach. We must be the Clippers. And I must be Olowokandi. Nooooo!"

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                          • Money99
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 12696

                            #58
                            Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

                            Originally posted by allBthere
                            He's made everyone hate him, and everyone think he's a waste of space - that doesn't mean I agree w/ the NHL suspending him for comments. It's not demeaning to women either, I don't buy that argument.
                            You should ask the thousands of letters and emails the NHL got from female fans over the incident. That's the only reason why the NHL is treating it the way they are.

                            I think Avery got 6 games because it was premeditated. He told his teammates he was going to do it before hand.
                            And I think the term 'sloppy seconds' is offensive to some. If he had said "It seems popular to pick up the trash I left behind" we probably aren't even discussing this.

                            Regardless, these 6 games are peanuts compared to how the Stars and the other 29 clubs will punish him. It sure sounds like his teammates don't want him around and if you're not welcome in one dressing room, you're probably not going to be in any other.
                            If you think NHL owners can freeze a player out, it's nothing compared to fellow players.
                            His career is over.

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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #59
                              Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

                              Originally posted by Money99
                              You should ask the thousands of letters and emails the NHL got from female fans over the incident. That's the only reason why the NHL is treating it the way they are.

                              I think Avery got 6 games because it was premeditated. He told his teammates he was going to do it before hand.
                              And I think the term 'sloppy seconds' is offensive to some. If he had said "It seems popular to pick up the trash I left behind" we probably aren't even discussing this.

                              Regardless, these 6 games are peanuts compared to how the Stars and the other 29 clubs will punish him. It sure sounds like his teammates don't want him around and if you're not welcome in one dressing room, you're probably not going to be in any other.
                              If you think NHL owners can freeze a player out, it's nothing compared to fellow players.
                              His career is over.

                              Calling her "trash" isnt as offensive as "sloppy seconds"? I would be more offended if i was a girl and he called my trash.

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                              • Scottdau
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 32580

                                #60
                                Re: Avery suspended indefinitely

                                I feel even if he call them trash that is still wrong. Why even say something to bring down someone. He is a smart *** and a jerk and he got what he deserved. Even the Stars are tired of him. I still think he is a good player, not great. But he does have some talent.

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