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  • DaRK
    Pro
    • Mar 2013
    • 832

    #196
    re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

    Originally posted by Majingir
    Simple solution...get rid of Bettman.

    Seriously...how is it that Bettman has outlased the other commishs in sports? Stern is gone from NBA, Selig is gone from MLB. Tagliabue gone from NFL(and who knows,Goodell could be gone before Bettman too).

    Bettman has been through 1 full lockout,2 shortened seasons,5 franchise relocations, and currently has franchises like Coyotes,Panthers struggling financially/attendance wise more than any team in pro sports.

    Whoever the new NHL commish is,will seem so much better compared to Bettman.
    I think you underrated a lot of the good things Bettman has done for the NHL. Not saying he's a great commish but he's done his far share of good things.
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    The reason I always root for multiple teams is because if one team doesn't make the playoffs or gets eliminated, I loose interest in the sport until next season if my team gets eliminated early. It keeps things interesting if you still have a team you like in the playoffs...

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    • mestevo
      Gooney Goo Goo
      • Apr 2010
      • 19556

      #197
      re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

      I haven't really cared enough to be too involved in the Vegas NHL stuff but I feel like that group is looking to own a team rather than have another come in, FWIW.

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      • Majingir
        Moderator
        • Apr 2005
        • 47473

        #198
        re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

        I'm not saying he hasn't done good things,alot of the other cities he's had hockey in like Minnesota,Nashville,Ottawa have been successful,and he has helped grow the game.

        The problem though is that he doesn't seem to want to fix any of his bad decisions. Look how much it took just to get the Jets back in Winnipeg, and how much it took to get rid of a struggling franchise(Atlanta). I'm sure it was hard enough for him to admit once that one of the cities he brought hockey to(or in Atlantas case,brought it back to) was a failure, doing it a 2nd time..don't think he'd want that at all.

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        • bad_philanthropy
          MVP
          • Jul 2005
          • 12167

          #199
          re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

          Yeah, I'm sure the Coyotes $200 million dollar lawsuit against the taxpayers is going to make the team more popular.

          I'm not arguing the validity of recourse here, but in populist terms, it's not great for the Coyotes brand. Then again, it seems like it's at an end in Arizona anyway. It's not like there is any good for the Coyotes in this.

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          • slickdtc
            Grayscale
            • Aug 2004
            • 17125

            #200
            re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

            What bothers me is that sports is business and business is money. Haven't the Coyotes been bleeding money, and the NHL has had to inject some to keep operations afloat? Hell, the NHL has "run" the team to a degree for a while I believe.

            Usually when your project is failing and eating up cash, you kill it. The NHL has this stubborn resistance to taking the 'Yotes out to pasture. Ego? Only thing I can come up with as to why they haven't already been relocated.
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            • Majingir
              Moderator
              • Apr 2005
              • 47473

              #201
              re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

              Exactly, it has to be egos. Not wanting to move another team that was brought in during Bettman era,cause he doesn't want to admit another failure.

              They've said in MLB that if Montreal can give them a new stadium guarantee,that'd be a huge step towards bringing baseball back to Montreal.

              NHL doesn't even want to talk about any of this stuff. They hear talk about NHL ready arenas in various cities,and don't seem to care one bit. You have NHL ready arenas in KC,Quebec City,Portland among other cities, yet NHL doesn't even want to talk to those cities about having a team in the future.

              There's much more realistic chance of one of those cities getting a NHL team than Montreal getting a MLB team,so how is it that Montreal seems to have progressed further in the "getting a team" stage than these other potential NHL cities?

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              • ImTellinTim
                YNWA
                • Sep 2006
                • 33028

                #202
                re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

                Originally posted by DrJones
                If I ever get banned, I'm coming back as "Northern Elitist".
                I'll pay $20 to turn your name blue if you change it to this.

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                • Majingir
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 47473

                  #203
                  re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

                  Now the Coyotes arena is taking bookings for the dates that Coyotes would've had if they were playing there for 2015-2016 season. I hope they book those dates, anything to get Coyotes out of there! The only other arena in Arizona I believe they could go to is the Phoenix Suns one,and that won't work out since they were there during the early Coyotes days,and it wasn't fit for hockey.

                  Lets get them out of there already!

                  Portland was an interesting suggestion I heard as to places they could go. They obviously have an arena already(where the Blazers play) and its use to hockey too(the WHL Portland Winterhawks play there), so relocating team to Portland could work,especially since it won't mess with conference or divisions at all. Vegas doesn't have arena built,Bettman doesn't wanna mess up conferences by moving them to Quebec, Seattle doesn't have an arena yet either. So Portland or KC I could see as main destinations for them.

                  Portland Lumberjacks name would be cool for the team. Instead of the lumberjack axe,use a hockeystick.

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                  • Speedy
                    #Ace
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 16143

                    #204
                    re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

                    Originally posted by DaRK
                    I think you underrated a lot of the good things Bettman has done for the NHL. Not saying he's a great commish but he's done his far share of good things.
                    Bad outweighs the good.

                    By far.
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                    • Twenty Four
                      Gun Slinga
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 1197

                      #205
                      re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

                      Coyotes have filed a restraining order against the city of Glendale..... How does that even work?
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                      • Majingir
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 47473

                        #206
                        re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

                        Originally posted by Twenty Four
                        Coyotes have filed a restraining order against the city of Glendale..... How does that even work?
                        Glendale isn't allowed to come within ___ miles of the Coyotes. In other words, the Coyotes must leave Arizona! Coyotes plan backfired!

                        lol seriously, though,how can they do that?

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                        • ImTellinTim
                          YNWA
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 33028

                          #207
                          re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

                          A restraining order doesn't just mean that person X has to stay Y feet from person Z.

                          In this case, the Coyotes are seeking an order from the court to block the City from breaking the lease. Just the first legal salvo of many more to come.

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                          • Majingir
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 47473

                            #208
                            re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

                            Too bad NHL can't just move them out of Arizona until all this is resolved, and then if the Coyotes can prove they're fit to get their team back,they get them back,if not,the team is moved forever.

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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47473

                              #209
                              re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

                              lol, it continues......



                              Just move them to Portland or Seattle already and stop making this joke of a saga continue for another decade.

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                              • Money99
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 12695

                                #210
                                re: Fate of Coyotes decided in 2 decades(?)

                                EL-OH-EL, this story will never die:
                                Officials from Portland, Oregon, and Seattle told Darrell Jackson of the Glendale Star that Arizona Coyotes officials have toured the cities' arenas over the past three months while searching for potential destinations for relocation.

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