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  • lowpaiddonkey10
    MVP
    • Oct 2017
    • 2163

    #766
    Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

    General tourney discussion. Rather I open a thread to make that comment?

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    • BDKiiing
      Best in the World
      • Jun 2008
      • 9334

      #767
      Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

      Originally posted by lowpaiddonkey10
      I don't think range finders have any place in professional golf sorry.
      Wholeheartedly disagree. Would actually help with pace of play exponentially. Which would be lovely to not have 5 hour rounds. I love golf as much as anyone, but it's brutal most of the time.
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      • pietasterp
        All Star
        • Feb 2004
        • 6237

        #768
        Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

        I was happy to see Brian Harman win the British Open. I think it's awesome when players who are not just pure bombers are able to win majors, since the game has for years now been trending toward simply a power game. It's cool to see people be able to win in different ways, as it makes the sport seem more like an art and less like a long drive competition. Power will of course always be an advantage (as it is in most sports), but if skilled players are able to compete with power by using accuracy, finesse, putting/short game prowess, etc., that makes the sport infinitely more entertaining in my opinion.

        Anyway, kudos to Harman for gutting it out in real British Open weather, with the crowd very clearly rooting against him every step of the way.

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        • kehlis
          Moderator
          • Jul 2008
          • 27738

          #769
          Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

          Originally posted by lowpaiddonkey10
          General tourney discussion. Rather I open a thread to make that comment?
          Don't really care where you put it to be honest but you can't honestly NOT understand why your run on paragraph covering three topics could possibly cause me to assume they were all one thought together.

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          • lowpaiddonkey10
            MVP
            • Oct 2017
            • 2163

            #770
            Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

            Originally posted by kehlis
            Don't really care where you put it to be honest but you can't honestly NOT understand why your run on paragraph covering three topics could possibly cause me to assume they were all one thought together.
            3 sentences a run on paragraph? OK.

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            • lowpaiddonkey10
              MVP
              • Oct 2017
              • 2163

              #771
              Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

              Originally posted by BDKiiing
              Wholeheartedly disagree. Would actually help with pace of play exponentially. Which would be lovely to not have 5 hour rounds. I love golf as much as anyone, but it's brutal most of the time.
              The caddies walk the course these guys are too good to have a range finder in the bag. Slow play? Maybe MLB should play 6 innings?

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              • pietasterp
                All Star
                • Feb 2004
                • 6237

                #772
                Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

                By the way, side note on the UK/British fans, but I would like to formally propose to the people who decide these things that we kill this narrative once and for all about how British Open / UK fans are so knowledgeable, so classy, more respectful of the players, much higher-level than the standard Joe Sixpack American fan. They have just as much inane after-shot yelling as we do, and their fans are just as nasty and drunk as ours are, especially when a non-preferred American (e.g. anyone not named Tom Watson) threatens to win their tournament.

                This is not new of course, nor unique to UK/English fans, but this whole idea that they have a better 'class' of fan over there is total horse pucky. This past Open should be the final nail in that fake narrative's coffin.

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                • BDKiiing
                  Best in the World
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 9334

                  #773
                  Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

                  Originally posted by lowpaiddonkey10
                  The caddies walk the course these guys are too good to have a range finder in the bag. Slow play? Maybe MLB should play 6 innings?
                  Honestly I feel that having a rangefinder allows them to get to their yardage exponentially quicker than sitting there debating with the caddie if it's 172 yards or 173. It has nothing to do with MLB at all, poor comparison. Golf has a serious pace of play issue and it starts with the PGA tour than gets all the way down to amateurs who think it's okay to have a five hour round. Brutal. You could poll the PGA tour and 95% of them would say that pace is too slow.
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                  • pietasterp
                    All Star
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6237

                    #774
                    Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

                    Pace of play is the #1 issue in recreational golf in my opinion, and its trickle-down effect from the pro's on TV to the local muni is as total as it is insidious. Everyone needs to know that an 18-hole round is a 4-hour endeavor (more or less), and do their part to make sure that happens. The way some groups take way too much time and mull around and waste time without any consideration for everyone else on the course is nothing short of a national disgrace.

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                    • lowpaiddonkey10
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 2163

                      #775
                      Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

                      Originally posted by BDKiiing
                      Honestly I feel that having a rangefinder allows them to get to their yardage exponentially quicker than sitting there debating with the caddie if it's 172 yards or 173. It has nothing to do with MLB at all, poor comparison. Golf has a serious pace of play issue and it starts with the PGA tour than gets all the way down to amateurs who think it's okay to have a five hour round. Brutal. You could poll the PGA tour and 95% of them would say that pace is too slow.

                      Golf is not meant to be played at a frenetic pace same as baseball. They don't need range finders they need to be put on a clock. Golf is losing popularity for a number of reasons. Cost time it takes to play and the size of the hole. But that's a whole nother discussion.

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                      • jb12780
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 10665

                        #776
                        Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

                        I would argue that the popularity of golf is at an all time high.

                        I would also argue pace of play is a big issue in the amateur game. A lot of it stems from people playing from tees they have no business playing from and the lack of enforcement/policing at courses.


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                        • lowpaiddonkey10
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 2163

                          #777
                          Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

                          Originally posted by jb12780
                          I would argue that the popularity of golf is at an all time high.

                          I would also argue pace of play is a big issue in the amateur game. A lot of it stems from people playing from tees they have no business playing from and the lack of enforcement/policing at courses.


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                          You can quote stats that show golf is on the decline or the rise. The youth of this country and that is who will have to play to keep the game going would rather play or watch basketball. The game takes too long for them and is too costly to get involved in.

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                          • BDKiiing
                            Best in the World
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 9334

                            #778
                            Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

                            As the lone member here who works in the golf industry, the game has never been more popular than it is now. That is inarguable.
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                            • pietasterp
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6237

                              #779
                              Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

                              Originally posted by BDKiiing
                              As the lone member here who works in the golf industry, the game has never been more popular than it is now. That is inarguable.
                              Anecdotally, all I can say is that I can't get a tee time on a random Tuesday afternoon at any course within an hour's drive, so that must mean a lot more people are playing these days (combined with everyone "working" from home LOL). On the weekends? Fuhgetaboutit....

                              The popularity of the game post-pandemic is sort of a double-edged sword. It's great that the game is thriving, since before recent events, they were closing more golf clubs than they were opening. But the downside is obviously the courses are packed to the gills and with a lot of new players that no one has ever taught any course etiquette to, it's getting a it irksome out there at times.

                              I really wish there was some way to "license" players at public courses, for a negligible fee (say $5-$10), and it just required a 30-minute online "golf etiquette" read/acknowledge, just so there were some basic ground rules before you let a bunch of people loose on public courses where their behavior clearly (and significantly) affects all of the other people out there. There was a time when people taking up the game had their dads or friends or whoever teach them these basic things (e.g. repair your ballmarks, rake the traps, be ready to hit as soon as the group in front clears, keep up tight to the group in front of you if there is a group behind you, etc.), but clearly that doesn't happen any more. It doesn't need to be stodgy, but without any shared golf values, you get an unpleasant experience for all.

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                              • ImTellinTim
                                YNWA
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 33028

                                #780
                                Re: Actual Golf: General Tourney discussion

                                Do you talk to people if you see them doing something they shouldn’t be doing? I have and a vast majority of the time they are receptive as long as you aren’t a dick.

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