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  • Happy29
    All Star
    • Jan 2006
    • 5496

    #61
    Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

    Originally posted by Rules
    You have to put your dislike for Kyle aside. Dale Sr. was hated by many and he used it to build an empire. Kyle wins races. Sponsors need their driver to win to get plenty of camera time. Who else wins races that can replace Kyle as a driver? No one.

    Besides, how much is Mars enjoying watching McDowell drive around in the back currently 31st two laps down as that is what to expect week in and week out if you get rid of Kyle.

    Again, Kyle is an idiot thus is why you sit him the rest of this season and put him on probation thru 2012. Ban him from the truck series for 2012 as well.
    My dislike for Kyle has nothing to do with this. He has a history of things like this and I don't want to see anymore drivers die, if he keeps his stuff up it could happen. Dale was not like Kyle in anyway. For him to be hated so much there are a lot of drivers that said that they had more respect for him than anyone else and credited him for so many things they learned in the sport as he was a guy they knew they could go to anytime for advice. Jeff Gordon, credits him a lot for being the driver he is. Drivers do not like Kyle or respect him at all.

    As for McDowell how much time has he had in the car before today? A car that was built to fit Kyle and set up for him just a 90 minute practice period yesterday. You couldn't expect him to be running near the front in conditions like that. There are quite a few drivers out there that can replace Kyle. Like Bill France use to say to drivers "Don't think your not replaceable because you are. You need us a lot more than we need you!" Any driver in that garage is replaceable.

    But whatever happens to him it ultimately is up to the sponsor since they are the ones that foot the bill. They could fire him or may decide to park him for the rest of the season, they might decide today was enough. But most everyone will agree the owner is going to do what the sponsor decides.
    Last edited by Happy29; 11-06-2011, 05:13 PM.
    “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
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    • Rules
      Go Irish
      • Jul 2002
      • 3813

      #62
      Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

      Originally posted by Happy29
      My dislike for Kyle has nothing to do with this. He has a history of things like this and I don't want to see anymore drivers die, if he keeps his stuff up it could happen. Dale was not like Kyle in anyway. For him to be hated so much there are a lot of drivers that said that they had more respect for him than anyone else and credited him for so many things they learned in the sport as he was a guy they knew they could go to anytime for advice. Jeff Gordon, credits him a lot for being the driver he is. Drivers do not like Kyle or respect him at all.

      As for McDowell how much time has he had in the car before today? A car that was built to fit Kyle and set up for him just a 90 minute practice period yesterday. You couldn't expect him to be running near the front in conditions like that. There are quite a few drivers out there that can replace Kyle. Like Bill France use to say to drivers "Don't think your not replaceable because you are. You need us a lot more than we need you!" Any driver in that garage is replaceable.

      But whatever happens to him it ultimately is up to the sponsor since they are the ones that foot the bill. They could fire him or may decide to park him for the rest of the season, they might decide today was enough. But most everyone will agree the owner is going to do what the sponsor decides.
      McDowell period is not the solution.

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      • Happy29
        All Star
        • Jan 2006
        • 5496

        #63
        Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

        Originally posted by Rules
        McDowell period is not the solution.
        I didn't say he was. But he (Kyle) is replaceable.
        “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
        Benjamin Franklin

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        • Happy29
          All Star
          • Jan 2006
          • 5496

          #64
          Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

          Well I'm off to Church so I'm going to miss the end of the race but Rules, Bullit, Richzilla I've enjoyed the debates we have had over the issue. it's been fun and I guess we'll know Monday or Tuesday what else is going to happen. Later guys.
          “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
          Benjamin Franklin

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          • Rules
            Go Irish
            • Jul 2002
            • 3813

            #65
            Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

            Now that Happy took his ball and went home, let me add one more thought


            Kyle wins more than both Joe Gibbs cars combined. Only a fool would fire him. Set up a bunch of things for Kyle to learn his lesson. If M&M is that unhappy then Joe Gibbs needs to find another sponsor and take it out of Kyle's pay.

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            • Bullit
              Bacon is Better
              • Aug 2009
              • 5004

              #66
              Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

              He is an idiot and I don't think more probation is the answer. It hasn't worked so far as a deterrent to keep him from acting this way. I think he should be let go from his current team and put out of the 2012 season.

              I just don't think Joe Gibbs will tolerate this behavior much longer if at all. He has already dealt with it from Stewart and I just don't see him going thru it again with Busch.

              My opinion and my opinion only, but I wouldn't. But I am sure that is pretty obvious from my past comments.
              Last edited by Bullit; 11-06-2011, 06:14 PM. Reason: added from Rules post
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              • superjames1992
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jun 2007
                • 31382

                #67
                Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

                Well, that sucked.

                Kurt Busch went from 10th to 30th in the last five laps due to fuel.

                I don't think I will have the points lead next week.

                Congrats on the win, Bullit! With as badly as many of us at the top of the standings did today, you should be in the thick of things in the final two Chase races now.
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                • Bullit
                  Bacon is Better
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5004

                  #68
                  Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

                  I needed that, may have closed the gap a bit.
                  In Loving memory of my "Cricket" 1/2/96 - 11/19/2012

                  My heart and soul hurt for your lost presence in my life.

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                  • Bullit
                    Bacon is Better
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5004

                    #69
                    Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

                    Thanks James thats what I was thinking . I have said I think this one could come down to the last race
                    In Loving memory of my "Cricket" 1/2/96 - 11/19/2012

                    My heart and soul hurt for your lost presence in my life.

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                    • Perfect Zero
                      1B, OF
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 4012

                      #70
                      Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

                      Great win there Bullit.
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                      • Bullit
                        Bacon is Better
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 5004

                        #71
                        Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

                        Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                        Great win there Bullit.


                        Thanks PZ, Its going to get exciting!!
                        In Loving memory of my "Cricket" 1/2/96 - 11/19/2012

                        My heart and soul hurt for your lost presence in my life.

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                        • Chaos81
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 17150

                          #72
                          Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

                          I honestly don't know if he was there before, but Kyle is not on the M&M team page at the moment. Crew Chief, and other pit crew members are, but not Kyle. Have to think he was up there at some point, but I don't know. EDIT: Well he still has pictures, but no bio/stats like the crew guys.

                          http://tinyurl.com/ca8ghyw
                          (Don't worry, it's a legit link, just can't link sites with JSP in them on OS due to java stuff)

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                          • Happy29
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 5496

                            #73
                            Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

                            Hey Bullit great win bud.
                            “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
                            Benjamin Franklin

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                            • Bullit
                              Bacon is Better
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 5004

                              #74
                              Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

                              Originally posted by Happy29
                              Hey Bullit great win bud.

                              Thanks Bro, this is gonna be fun
                              In Loving memory of my "Cricket" 1/2/96 - 11/19/2012

                              My heart and soul hurt for your lost presence in my life.

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                              • Rules
                                Go Irish
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 3813

                                #75
                                Re: OSFC-AAA Texas 500

                                Originally posted by Bullit
                                Thanks PZ, Its going to get exciting!!
                                Congrats on the win with my boy Tony

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