Xbox One

[mestevo]

Re: Xbox One

You can use USB 3.0 ports for added storage, so I'd assume you could play games off of those...

From what I saw in one interview, expandable storage for games and other media is the primary purpose of the USB 3.0 port on the back, so yeah you'd be able to play off of it and everything.

[Leon]

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RE: the internet connection requirement.

Think of it this way.

I'm hoping to play my new game but for some reason, my internet is down. I've tried restarting the modem, router etc. but it still won't connect. Big deal, it's a single player game! So what if I'm not online on XBL? But then, I discover that I can't play the game until I get online. What do I do? I'm stuck because Microsoft is telling me that I'm not allowed to play this single-player game that I bought without my console going online first. There goes my Saturday afternoon plan, maybe I'll just go outside.

Yes, people can play some other time when their internet connection comes back up. It's not the end of the world. The fact of the matter is though, you're restricting my ability to play. If I'm playing a single-player game, the only factors that should come into consideration is a) do I have electricity and b) how much time do I have? When I'm playing BY MYSELF, being connected or not shouldn't be a factor in my gaming experience.

Not all of us live in a world where the internet doesn't drop its connection and is always blazing fast.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I really hope that's not the case. That would be a nightmare.

I believe that's what MS hinted at wanting to accomplish eventually.

I guarantee that they will be. The 360 wasn't BC either, but they launched their downloadable games section and put XBox 1 (why the hell is this new one called XBox One? It's confusing) games up on it as well as 360 games. PS3 did the same thing. They made a system that isn't BC and then put a section for PS1 and 2 games to be bought.

Even if they don't, it's annoying because they'll eventually turn off your ability to access Live from the 360 and the only way to access your downloaded games and whatnot is will being connected to the Live servers unless you download them to your harddrive.

I have Xbox games I play on the 360. Of course not all Xbox games are compatible, but my system is backwards compatible so the original Xbox games being on the marketplace is no different than buying them again at a game store.

Now, if the discs weren't BC and MS put the games up on Live then that's kind of shady to me, but I figure that's what will happen down the line especially with the older franchises.

MS sees a market that they're not getting revenue from in the used game sales. It ****ing sucks that it looks like it will affect borrowing/trading games from friends because I do that time to time.

[DirtyJerz32]

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When you buy a PC game you can't resell it anymore. You buy it and you own it.

This! I've purchased a few PC games and I really never put any thought to it, but this is so on point.

[ubernoob]

Heaven forbid we be upset about something on principle.

I mean I have internet but I was upset about diablo 3 and Sim city on principle.

Oh wait, I shouldn't be upset - those games had no issues and everything went smooth as silk there.

[mgoblue]

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I believe that's what MS hinted at wanting to accomplish eventually.



I have Xbox games I play on the 360. Of course not all Xbox games are compatible, but my system is backwards compatible so the original Xbox games being on the marketplace is no different than buying them again at a game store.

Now, if the discs weren't BC and MS put the games up on Live then that's kind of shady to me, but I figure that's what will happen down the line especially with the older franchises.

MS sees a market that they're not getting revenue from in the used game sales. It ****ing sucks that it looks like it will affect borrowing/trading games from friends because I do that time to time.

No, Developers and Publishers really hate the used game market. I'm sure MS isn't a big fan either, but it's the people that make the games that are leading this behind the scenes.

Game devs are tired of games being resold 20 times and not seeing a dime of it.

[jmood88]

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RE: the internet connection requirement.

Think of it this way.

I'm hoping to play my new game but for some reason, my internet is down. I've tried restarting the modem, router etc. but it still won't connect. Big deal, it's a single player game! So what if I'm not online on XBL? But then, I discover that I can't play the game until I get online. What do I do? I'm stuck because Microsoft is telling me that I'm not allowed to play this single-player game that I bought without my console going online first. There goes my Saturday afternoon plan, maybe I'll just go outside.

Does this happen to you often?

[DukeC]

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2. I don't know, it may be doable but Microsoft hasn't said what would happen if you aren't connected or miss the check.

3. I'm saying that there's no way for the console to verify the code without going online to check if it's valid.

The coming weeks should be informative.

Seeing as how you need to be online to play the game/insert the code (the first time) I thought that that assumed to be what I meant. What I'm saying is after having verified the code, why can I not then play the game completely offline?

[DirtyJerz32]

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No, Developers and Publishers really hate the used game market. I'm sure MS isn't a big fan either, but it's the people that make the games that are leading this behind the scenes.

Game devs are tired of games being resold 20 times and not seeing a dime of it.

This is exactly why most companies started with the Online passes. Trying to make some money because they make nothing on used games.

[DukeC]

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Does this happen to you often?

It does if you're late paying the internet bill (which happens to me a lot )

[jmood88]

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Heaven forbid we be upset about something on principle.

I mean I have internet but I was upset about diablo 3 and Sim city on principle.

Oh wait, I shouldn't be upset - those games had no issues and everything went smooth as silk there.

If you're complaining on principle, that's fine, just be upfront about it. People make these crazy situations that rarely, if ever, happen and act like everyone needs to worry about them.

As far as the Sim City/Diablo scenario, a game forcing you to be online at all times or it won't play is completely different from requiring one check every 24 hours. If it was actually a requirement to be online all the time, I would wholeheartedly agree with your concern.

[mgoblue]

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If you're complaining on principle, that's fine, just be upfront about it. People make these crazy situations that rarely, if ever, happen and act like everyone needs to worry about them.

As far as the Sim City/Diablo scenario, a game forcing you to be online at all times or it won't play is completely different from requiring one check every 24 hours. If it was actually a requirement to be online all the time, I would wholeheartedly agree with your concern.

I agree...I also wouldn't be surprised if they upped it from 24 hours to a week or something. I'm sure MS is listening to all this talk and will end up backing down a bit.

[Leon]

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Does this happen to you often?

Thankfully, my internet connection is much, much more stable now compared to a few years ago. It still does go down (which a quick restart will usually fix), and in a few unlucky moments, it might be a few hours, depending on who's to blame (my wires/hardware at home or the ISP itself).

Simply put, if a person wants to play, they should be able to play.

[DukeC]

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This is exactly why most companies started with the Online passes. Trying to make some money because they make nothing on used games.

I wouldn't be surprised if it does indeed head into the direction of licensing out games or rather giving consumers indefinite trials. The only way I see the companies getting back revenue on used or rent games is by charging a trial fee online (much like EA does with the Season Pass thing).

Then the argument of whether or not you are really buying the game pops up again...

[TracerBullet]

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I think we'll see MS back down from a few things by the time this console comes out. The 24 hours is possibly one. The indie devs still needing a publisher is another. And so on.