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  • daniel77733
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    • Nov 2011
    • 3544

    #20551
    Re: Xbox One

    Originally posted by Footballforever
    Believe it or not, I got a lot of my games on sale, xbox runs there Live member deals on digital and I must say the usually have some great deals.
    I believe it. There are some good sales throughout the year. Just have to be patient which is what im doing with Forza Horizon 3. My main point though is why is that game still $50 digitally when it's on sale? Sorry but that's insane.

    Even if I just go by the complete edition of The Witcher III, I still saved $10. Saved $40 if I go back to when it launched. The Division was $60 at launch (now $50) and the expansion pass is $40. So to get both for $86 compared to buying both games and passes at launch cost me less than half price.

    The sales are fine but at some point, digital games have to drop on a permanent basis.

    Originally posted by mestevo
    Ultimate Edition is ~$19 new. But free with a live membership next month, so guess we're in luck. Keep on with the digital pricing fantasies though.
    I know. I was looking at the crossed out MSRP which is insane. I don't have any fantasies when it comes to digital pricing. Not if but when gaming goes all digital, I truly believe that every game will be $60 and stay $60 simply because you'll have no other option if you want to play the game. You'll either buy it for $60 or you won't. I know a lot of people think that all digital will make games cheaper but I don't believe that at all simply because no publisher and I don't care who it is, is going to pass on their savings to you, the consumer. Simply not going to happen.

    If Take Two Interactive doesn't want the digital game to at least be competitive compared to what it costs in stores for a physical disc version, why would they ever give the consumer a cheaper price when you have no other way to buy the game?

    Publishers rather sell 5m copies at $60 as opposed to 6m copies at $50. Personally, when gaming goes all digital, that's when I'll go back to the past and play all the games I missed out on.

    Originally posted by brandon27
    I actually agree with this. The deals you can find on the physical copies far outweigh the pricing of the digital, especially the older games. I also think though if they really want to push new sales to digital, they should be offering a lower price point, especially since they're saving the expense of the disc and packaging, shipping, etc, etc.

    Of course though, doing that would hurt their retail partners, and I'm sure the industry wouldn't like that either, so similar pricing on releases remains and likely always will.

    That being said though, some of the digital titles I do have that I didnt buy with a specific purpose (ex. knowing I'll play it for hours on end) I've bought because of some of the great deals that the XB store has had at times. So, I guess it works both ways too.
    As has been exposed via GameStop's circle of life program, all retailers don't even make money (or much) on new games. All their money comes from pre-owned which is why GameStop pushes all their used stuff in your face.

    Outside of Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo, publishers don't need retailers or physical at all. Only reason they play nice is because the big three need the retailers to stock their consoles and obviously, no point in stocking a console if there won't be any games along side it.

    Both Xbox and PS have some good to great deals on digital games but they never happen at launch or even within a month of launch.

    The only thing I don't see happening is publishers passing their savings on to the consumer in an all digital retail space as they're all money hungry greedy companies with investors and stock holders that have to be pleased. They sure as hell aren't going to please us.

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    • RoyalBoyle78
      Aka."Footballforever"
      • May 2003
      • 23918

      #20552
      Re: Xbox One

      Originally posted by daniel77733
      I believe it. There are some good sales throughout the year. Just have to be patient which is what im doing with Forza Horizon 3. My main point though is why is that game still $50 digitally when it's on sale? Sorry but that's insane.



      Even if I just go by the complete edition of The Witcher III, I still saved $10. Saved $40 if I go back to when it launched. The Division was $60 at launch (now $50) and the expansion pass is $40. So to get both for $86 compared to buying both games and passes at launch cost me less than half price.



      The sales are fine but at some point, digital games have to drop on a permanent basis.







      I know. I was looking at the crossed out MSRP which is insane. I don't have any fantasies when it comes to digital pricing. Not if but when gaming goes all digital, I truly believe that every game will be $60 and stay $60 simply because you'll have no other option if you want to play the game. You'll either buy it for $60 or you won't. I know a lot of people think that all digital will make games cheaper but I don't believe that at all simply because no publisher and I don't care who it is, is going to pass on their savings to you, the consumer. Simply not going to happen.



      If Take Two Interactive doesn't want the digital game to at least be competitive compared to what it costs in stores for a physical disc version, why would they ever give the consumer a cheaper price when you have no other way to buy the game?



      Publishers rather sell 5m copies at $60 as opposed to 6m copies at $50. Personally, when gaming goes all digital, that's when I'll go back to the past and play all the games I missed out on.







      As has been exposed via GameStop's circle of life program, all retailers don't even make money (or much) on new games. All their money comes from pre-owned which is why GameStop pushes all their used stuff in your face.



      Outside of Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo, publishers don't need retailers or physical at all. Only reason they play nice is because the big three need the retailers to stock their consoles and obviously, no point in stocking a console if there won't be any games along side it.



      Both Xbox and PS have some good to great deals on digital games but they never happen at launch or even within a month of launch.



      The only thing I don't see happening is publishers passing their savings on to the consumer in an all digital retail space as they're all money hungry greedy companies with investors and stock holders that have to be pleased. They sure as hell aren't going to please us.


      I too am waiting patiently for a forza horizon price drop


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      • ExtremeGamer
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        #20553
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        Layers of Fear was awesome by the way. Really good "scary" game. Has a few endings and is really twisted if you pay attention to the story.


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        • RoyalBoyle78
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          • May 2003
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          #20554
          Re: Xbox One

          well inst this funny, I looked at gamestop this morning and just bought Horizon 3 on sale digital. $39.99

          http://www.gamestop.com/games/forza-horizon-3/133396
          Last edited by RoyalBoyle78; 02-23-2017, 11:10 AM.
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          • Aggies7
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            • Jan 2005
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            #20555
            Xbox One

            I really don't know how you find the time to play all these game. Luckily my almost 2 years old is starting to enjoy watching me play games, but still only get about 3 hours to play all week. With your library and 3 hours that's like 5 minutes per game.


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            • RoyalBoyle78
              Aka."Footballforever"
              • May 2003
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              #20556
              Re: Xbox One

              Originally posted by Aggies7
              I really don't know how you find the time to play all these game. Luckily my almost 2 years old is starting to enjoy watching me play games, but still only get about 3 hours to play all week. With your library and 3 hours that's like 5 minutes per game.


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              LOL, that's my issue, I don't have the time to play, I know its crazy, I have so many and haven't even got into playing most or beating them. If I see them on sale i just jump at it, due to the games going back to full price, its an addiction at this point lol.

              Lucky for me my son plays the games and he beats them , more then what I can say for me.
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              • Aggies7
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                • Jan 2005
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                #20557
                Re: Xbox One

                Originally posted by Footballforever
                LOL, that's my issue, I don't have the time to play, I know its crazy, I have so many and haven't even got into playing most or beating them. If I see them on sale i just jump at it, due to the games going back to full price, its an addiction at this point lol.


                Haha I get it. I feel that I always find better deals on XB1 as opposed to PS4. So I do tend to have more digital games on XB1, EA Access helps that stat too.


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                • mgoblue
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 25477

                  #20558
                  Re: Xbox One

                  Don't hold your breath on digital sales like physical ones right now...we've posted articles about Ubisoft CEO's and people explaining why digital holds a higher price vs. physical...plus some stores are trying to clear out inventory, while digital doesn't have that issue.

                  I just wait for great digital sales if i care.
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                  • mestevo
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                    • Apr 2010
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                    #20559
                    Re: Xbox One

                    Still waiting for 'Ubisoft Access' to copy EA Access. Take my money, give me your library, thx.

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                    • mgoblue
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 25477

                      #20560
                      Re: Xbox One

                      Originally posted by mestevo
                      Still waiting for 'Ubisoft Access' to copy EA Access. Take my money, give me your library, thx.
                      Now that might be more lucrative for me....more single player games vs what EA has now...though EA Access is a great deal if you have more time than I do
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                      • Aggies7
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                        • Jan 2005
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                        #20561
                        Xbox One

                        Originally posted by mgoblue
                        Now that might be more lucrative for me....more single player games vs what EA has now...though EA Access is a great deal if you have more time than I do


                        I am shocked more Developers haven't released some form of an "Access" feature such as EA's


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                        • mestevo
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                          • Apr 2010
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                          #20562
                          Re: Xbox One

                          With it being $30 annually, it doesn't take much free time for it to be worth it to me, along w/ the discounts for some games that I do buy digitally

                          I can see programs like that unlocking steeper digital discounts in the future. Those that want games earlier will buy them, others will wait for the vault.

                          The payoff for the publisher is people who buy into the vault but wouldn't have made many purchases offsetting things. More reliable annual revenue stream.

                          A big incentive would be monthly discounts. Say an increase annual cost, like $60 for EA Access gold, which also gives you $10 off any EA titles or DLC each month on top of 10% existing discounts. Not sure the account system is there to support that kind of thing. Suddenly you're paying $45 for Madden digitally. Also puts pressure on the consumer to use the discount or lose it each month, driving more sales that might not already happen.
                          Last edited by mestevo; 02-23-2017, 12:17 PM.

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                          • mgoblue
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 25477

                            #20563
                            Re: Xbox One

                            Originally posted by mestevo
                            With it being $30 annually, it doesn't take much free time for it to be worth it to me, along w/ the discounts for some games that I do buy digitally

                            I can see programs like that unlocking steeper digital discounts in the future. Those that want games earlier will buy them, others will wait for the vault.

                            The payoff for the publisher is people who buy into the vault but wouldn't have made many purchases offsetting things. More reliable annual revenue stream.

                            A big incentive would be monthly discounts. Say an increase annual cost, like $60 for EA Access gold, which also gives you $10 off any EA titles or DLC each month on top of 10% existing discounts. Not sure the account system is there to support that kind of thing. Suddenly you're paying $45 for Madden digitally. Also puts pressure on the consumer to use the discount or lose it each month, driving more sales that might not already happen.
                            For sure...I just get 3-4 hours of gaming a weekend if i'm lucky, so just isn't good for me now. Plus then I don't play sports games as much with limited time.

                            How are their sales vs. the Deals with Gold? I usually find a DWG that is pretty decent once in a while...
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                            • kwebbvols4423
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                              • Jul 2011
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                              #20564
                              Re: Xbox One

                              Borderlands 2, Assassin's Creed Rogue, and 4 others are coming to BC today.
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                              • tdawg3782
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                                • Nov 2003
                                • 4803

                                #20565
                                Re: Xbox One

                                Originally posted by Footballforever
                                well inst this funny, I looked at gamestop this morning and just bought Horizon 3 on sale digital. $39.99

                                http://www.gamestop.com/games/forza-horizon-3/133396
                                Damn you lol. I've had a $90 gift card burning a hole in my pocket for about a month. Saw your post and totally caved lol. I'm totally like you guys to. I love buying games but I have no time to play. Usually when I do find time I just load up my Madden cfm and keep plugging away at that. Ugh. I am looking forward to at least playing this for a bit though.

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