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  • ODogg
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #21706
    Re: Xbox One

    Originally posted by daniel77733
    Hahaha. Nice try. Difference is that in sports games, all the players are real life players where as the majority of video games are fictional. Some are based though on actual characters, places and events though.
    Have you ever stopped to think though about if they used a known player for an NFL game it wouldn't work? Would I, as a Cowboys fan, be rip roaring eager to buy Madden 18 to take Aaron Rodgers from biddy league ball to the NFL?

    Would a Redskin fan be rip roaring ready to take Ezekiel Elliot from unknown to the Dallas Cowboys? Would a Saints fan like my wife be fired up to play the new Longshot mode to take Cam Newton from playing against 6 year olds to the Carolina Panthers in a new story mode?

    Of course not, you could never use a known player in a story mode because the entire point of doing so is you're taking a blank canvass and creating a story in someones head. Aaron Rodgers story is already written, ditto for Ezekiel Elliot. And lastly, ditto for Cam Newton.

    ESPECIALLY in a sports game where people have such passion and hated for people should you use a fictional, unbranded, no-name person. The fact you think that is an issue as to why it's not a good mode shows how little you really poorly thought out your argument is I think.
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    • RoyalBoyle78
      Aka."Footballforever"
      • May 2003
      • 23918

      #21707
      Re: Xbox One

      Originally posted by daniel77733
      I don't hate sports games. I just think that they're truly a waste of time playing because as someone who played more sports games than anyone here, the more the years pass, the worse the sports games get. Like I said in my previous post, all style and no substance. It's all flash to what will get the "social" crowd as opposed to an actual sports fan. Only reason they sell is because there's no competition for NFL, NBA, MLB and if I remember correctly NHL.

      What do the sports games have to do with Xbox One? Sports games are all multi-platform except for MLB: The Show and that's easily included in my complaints. The Show is nowhere near what MVP or Triple Play were except in visuals which is expected.

      Don't know why you included Xbox One when the console has nothing to do with the sports games themselves. And I don't hate Xbox. I purchased an original Xbox twice. Xbox 360 a bunch of freaking times, Xbox One twice and Xbox One Slim twice. Just because I easily prefer PS4 over Xbox One doesn't mean I hate it just like me easily preferring Xbox 360 didn't mean that I hated PS3.

      And console wars/fanboys are those who only own one console brand and are loyal to that one brand. I'm not loyal to either. I have my favorite but I will always own both console brands because at the end of the day, im a gamer first and foremost. Xbox One has some exclusives that I still have to play and a few next year. If I truly hated Xbox One, I would have sold the console and never looked back as opposed to still owning it and looking forward to three exclusives in 2018.

      I know that I repeat myself and that I come across as if I hate Xbox One but I don't hate Xbox One. What I hate is Microsoft's direction and Spencer's constant bullcrap but the direction makes sense for what they want to do and Spencer is just another PR type. It's simply not what I prefer them to do or focus on. That's all. Nothing more and nothing less.
      Dude your the same age as me and how can you claim you played MORE sports games then anyone here LMAO are you kidding me, this is a sports gaming site. I have played every 2K and madden and NHL. I can't believe you just said that.. SMH

      Dude Stay in your Bubble with your Tinfoil hat on, cause what you just said is ridiculous. You act like you know it all about gaming when half of us have been gaming as long as you maybe even more.
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      • ODogg
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2003
        • 37953

        #21708
        Re: Xbox One

        Originally posted by Footballforever
        Dude your the same age as me and how can you claim you played MORE sports games then anyone here LMAO are you kidding me, this is a sports gaming site. I have played every 2K and madden and NHL. I can't believe you just said that.. SMH

        Dude Stay in your Bubble with your Tinfoil hat on, cause what you just said is ridiculous. You act like you know it all about gaming when half of us have been gaming as long as you maybe even more.
        How old are you guys? I'm 47. I played Realsports football on the Atari 2600. I wonder if Daniel has.
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        • RoyalBoyle78
          Aka."Footballforever"
          • May 2003
          • 23918

          #21709
          Re: Xbox One

          Originally posted by ODogg
          How old are you guys? I'm 47. I played Realsports football on the Atari 2600. I wonder if Daniel has.


          I'm 38 and I believe Daniel is the same age but he played more Sports game than any of us on OS LOL


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          • DJ
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2003
            • 17756

            #21710
            Re: Xbox One

            Our best course of action is to leave that discussion behind and focus on the Xbox One.

            With that said ... has anyone designed a custom controller yet?
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            • mestevo
              Gooney Goo Goo
              • Apr 2010
              • 19556

              #21711
              Re: Xbox One

              I've designed a few, just not going to buy one before pulling the trigger on something like an Elite.

              Now... if they could apply those custom colors to an elite....

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              • kwebbvols4423
                VFL
                • Jul 2011
                • 2627

                #21712
                Re: Xbox One

                Originally posted by mestevo
                I've designed a few, just not going to buy one before pulling the trigger on something like an Elite.

                Now... if they could apply those custom colors to an elite....
                I love that you can create custom controllers but I am about to buy an Elite controller so I should be good. I do wish the elite controller came in white.
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                • ODogg
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 37953

                  #21713
                  Re: Xbox One

                  Originally posted by kwebbvols4423
                  I love that you can create custom controllers but I am about to buy an Elite controller so I should be good. I do wish the elite controller came in white.
                  It will in a few months to encourage all of us to buy a second one, LOL
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                  • daniel77733
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 3544

                    #21714
                    Re: Xbox One

                    Originally posted by ODogg
                    Have you ever stopped to think though about if they used a known player for an NFL game it wouldn't work? Would I, as a Cowboys fan, be rip roaring eager to buy Madden 18 to take Aaron Rodgers from biddy league ball to the NFL?

                    Would a Redskin fan be rip roaring ready to take Ezekiel Elliot from unknown to the Dallas Cowboys? Would a Saints fan like my wife be fired up to play the new Longshot mode to take Cam Newton from playing against 6 year olds to the Carolina Panthers in a new story mode?

                    Of course not, you could never use a known player in a story mode because the entire point of doing so is you're taking a blank canvass and creating a story in someones head. Aaron Rodgers story is already written, ditto for Ezekiel Elliot. And lastly, ditto for Cam Newton.

                    ESPECIALLY in a sports game where people have such passion and hated for people should you use a fictional, unbranded, no-name person. The fact you think that is an issue as to why it's not a good mode shows how little you really poorly thought out your argument is I think.
                    I agree but here's a better idea. Instead of a fictional player, they should cut out the pre-NFL stuff, start with the Draft and let you build up a rookie player with the option of just controlling that one rookie on his respective team or by "re-doing" the NFL Draft and using the rookie that you Draft in the first round. Both options would be far better than a fictional player simply because that rookie is an actual real life player and as a rookie, nothing has been written.

                    Originally posted by Footballforever
                    Dude your the same age as me and how can you claim you played MORE sports games then anyone here LMAO are you kidding me, this is a sports gaming site. I have played every 2K and madden and NHL. I can't believe you just said that.. SMH

                    Dude Stay in your Bubble with your Tinfoil hat on, cause what you just said is ridiculous. You act like you know it all about gaming when half of us have been gaming as long as you maybe even more.
                    Well, let's see.

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                    • Thrash13
                      MVP
                      • May 2005
                      • 1133

                      #21715
                      Re: Xbox One

                      Originally posted by DJ
                      Our best course of action is to leave that discussion behind and focus on the Xbox One.

                      With that said ... has anyone designed a custom controller yet?
                      My wife wants to design one for herself, pink and turquoise of course! Haha. I'm good with the white one that comes with the most recent One S I bought. It should be delivered at any time now!

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                      • tdawg3782
                        I hate you Norv
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 4803

                        #21716
                        Re: Xbox One

                        I think we should all chip in and get Daniel a trophy for "Most accomplished sports game player of all time ever in the history of everything that is known and also things that aren't know.....ever"

                        Sounds pretty legit lol.

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                        • ODogg
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 37953

                          #21717
                          Re: Xbox One

                          Originally posted by daniel77733
                          I agree but here's a better idea. Instead of a fictional player, they should cut out the pre-NFL stuff, start with the Draft and let you build up a rookie player with the option of just controlling that one rookie on his respective team or by "re-doing" the NFL Draft and using the rookie that you Draft in the first round. Both options would be far better than a fictional player simply because that rookie is an actual real life player and as a rookie, nothing has been written.


                          I agree that stuff should be in there in addition to the Longshot earlier years mode but the earlier years (high school, college) is something we are seeing more of in these games now because it differentiates the story mode from the regular game mode of being a pro.

                          I actually love the idea of grade school, high school and college. Where I think they went wrong with Longshot was (from what I've read anyways) the idea that you're really not playing any of those games and just will have cut scenes and maybe control a play or two here or there.

                          I say make it a full mode where you play like maybe 5 games in grade school, 10 games (senior season) in high school and a full season in college. That would have, in my opinion, been VERY interesting.

                          However, maybe we will get that down the road if this mode does well. Many people, like yourself, think that it won't and if that's the case then it will go away. But I do think it will do well, FIFA and other games have really sold much better when they've added this sort of mode.

                          If history is any indicator, as much as Longshot is hated here and other sports games sites, it's going to be a huge deal for Madden and it's sales.
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                          • daniel77733
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 3544

                            #21718
                            Re: Xbox One

                            Originally posted by tdawg3782
                            I think we should all chip in and get Daniel a trophy for "Most accomplished sports game player of all time ever in the history of everything that is known and also things that aren't know.....ever"

                            Sounds pretty legit lol.
                            This 1000%. By far and away the single greatest comment by any poster on any forum on any site in the history of the internet. LOL.

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                            • daniel77733
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 3544

                              #21719
                              Re: Xbox One

                              Originally posted by ODogg
                              I agree that stuff should be in there in addition to the Longshot earlier years mode but the earlier years (high school, college) is something we are seeing more of in these games now because it differentiates the story mode from the regular game mode of being a pro.

                              I actually love the idea of grade school, high school and college. Where I think they went wrong with Longshot was (from what I've read anyways) the idea that you're really not playing any of those games and just will have cut scenes and maybe control a play or two here or there.

                              I say make it a full mode where you play like maybe 5 games in grade school, 10 games (senior season) in high school and a full season in college. That would have, in my opinion, been VERY interesting.

                              However, maybe we will get that down the road if this mode does well. Many people, like yourself, think that it won't and if that's the case then it will go away. But I do think it will do well, FIFA and other games have really sold much better when they've added this sort of mode.

                              If history is any indicator, as much as Longshot is hated here and other sports games sites, it's going to be a huge deal for Madden and it's sales.
                              Wait...you don't even get to play any of the games? How can the fictional player's past be built up and explained to where he is in NFL if they didn't include the ability to play the games? You mean, it's all menus and cut-scenes? If so, wow. smh.

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                              • ExtremeGamer
                                Extra Life 11/3/18
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 35299

                                #21720
                                Re: Xbox One

                                Keep the talk on Xbox One, this is a ridiculous thread.

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