Xbox One

[peter42O]

Re: Xbox One

Personally I'd worry about Rockstar too, with all the talk about the behind the scenes treatment of devs, but that's a completely different story.

I meant in terms of Rockstar pretty much having the leeway to do what they want in regards to gaming. As for the behind the scenes stuff, I won't comment on that since it would be longer than my last spoiler tagged post. LMAO.

[mestevo]

Re: Xbox One

Not a fan.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-much-does-xbox-one-s-all-digital-edition-cost?utm_source=wc_tw&utm_medium=tw_card&utm_content=64020&utm_campaign=social

It seems that we have firm confirmation that the Xbox One S All-Digital Edition is set for an early May 2019 launch, complete with copies of Minecraft, Sea of Thieves, and Forza Horizon 3 in the box. Also, we seem to have confirmation of that all important price point, which will hit around $249.99 RRP USD in the US

Could be a higher MSRP to allow for larger sales too thought I suppose. Thing should be $150 for X-Mas IMO.

[peter42O]

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That's beyond horrible. No disc drive. And instead of including Game Pass (which I would think would have been a given), they include three games that aren't really impressive. Everyone who wants to play Minecraft already owns it. Sea of Thieves is meh. And while Forza Horizon 3 is great, Forza Horizon 4 is obviously newer and better. The $250 price tag is nuts. You can get a brand new Slim for $200 sometimes with a game and it includes a disc drive.

Of course, as someone who heavily favors physical discs, the higher the price the better because it means that it will most likely crash and burn. I truly have no idea why Microsoft keeps trying to force the no disc drive aspect. Stop doing it. It doesn't work and is just a waste of money, time, resources, research and development. That's all it is.

More importantly, for the same price or less, why would anyone buy this disc less console and restrict themselves when they could have the ability to play discs, download games digitally and stream games in one unit?

But whatever, I don't see it selling whatsoever and being killed off before next gen gets here simply because I just don't see any value in it. No games and $100 price tag, okay, sure I can see that because you can just sign up for Game Pass which is digital downloads anyway and thus, you don't need a disc drive but $250, wow, just wow. SMH.

[ricky24]

Xbox One

How much time do people think is spent to “research and develop” something like this??? They are just removing a DD from the console. I’m not worried even a little bit about this getting in the way of the more important stuff...like games.

[DJ]

Re: Xbox One

Not a fan.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-much-does-xbox-one-s-all-digital-edition-cost?utm_source=wc_tw&utm_medium=tw_card&utm_content=64020&utm_campaign=social

It seems that we have firm confirmation that the Xbox One S All-Digital Edition is set for an early May 2019 launch, complete with copies of Minecraft, Sea of Thieves, and Forza Horizon 3 in the box. Also, we seem to have confirmation of that all important price point, which will hit around $249.99 RRP USD in the US

Could be a higher MSRP to allow for larger sales too thought I suppose. Thing should be $150 for X-Mas IMO.

2019 and companies still manage to get the simplest things wrong.

[mestevo]

Re: Xbox One

How much time do people think is spent to “research and develop” something like this??? They are just removing a DD from the console. I’m not worried even a little bit about this getting in the way of the more important stuff...like games.

This gets in the way of nothing. The price point will come down, and people who prefer physical tend to understate the growing digital preference some consumers have.

Long term, we'll probably have a version of this machine a One X w/disc drive that is incrementally better at the current One S price point and then the next iteration for the bleeding edge / enthusiast. All of them able to play the same library and with massive and modern instant game collections via Game Pass and EA Access, many available on most of your devices that have a screen.

That's why this is the ecosystem I'm investing in.

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[WaddupCouzin]

Re: Xbox One

That's beyond horrible. No disc drive. And instead of including Game Pass (which I would think would have been a given), they include three games that aren't really impressive. Everyone who wants to play Minecraft already owns it. Sea of Thieves is meh. And while Forza Horizon 3 is great, Forza Horizon 4 is obviously newer and better. The $250 price tag is nuts. You can get a brand new Slim for $200 sometimes with a game and it includes a disc drive.

Of course, as someone who heavily favors physical discs, the higher the price the better because it means that it will most likely crash and burn. I truly have no idea why Microsoft keeps trying to force the no disc drive aspect. Stop doing it. It doesn't work and is just a waste of money, time, resources, research and development. That's all it is.

More importantly, for the same price or less, why would anyone buy this disc less console and restrict themselves when they could have the ability to play discs, download games digitally and stream games in one unit?

But whatever, I don't see it selling whatsoever and being killed off before next gen gets here simply because I just don't see any value in it. No games and $100 price tag, okay, sure I can see that because you can just sign up for Game Pass which is digital downloads anyway and thus, you don't need a disc drive but $250, wow, just wow. SMH.

Not for Nothing Pete, but anything more than free probably would have elicited the same reaction from you.
Like someone mentioned above me, I think you're greatly overestimating "disc" usage going forward. I have an Xbox1X and PS4 Pro and I've maybe used my disc once? Twice maybe in 2 years? Streaming and Digital Gaming is the future, with disc's going the way of blockbuster and the dodo.

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[peter42O]

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Not for Nothing Pete, but anything more than free probably would have elicited the same reaction from you.
Like someone mentioned above me, I think you're greatly overestimating "disc" usage going forward. I have an Xbox1X and PS4 Pro and I've maybe used my disc once? Twice maybe in 2 years? Streaming and Digital Gaming is the future, with disc's going the way of blockbuster and the dodo.

Either way, I do want it to fail because it's something im not for and won't support regardless of who does it but if it was $100, I would definitely say that it's great value but $250 with three old games instead of Game Pass makes zero sense. You can get an Xbox One X for $400 at times so for $150 more, you get the best console on the market and without any limits or restrictions. I just don't see why Microsoft would overprice this disc less console when as a consumer, I have far better options that don't limit or restrict me and that can be purchased for the same or cheaper price.

As for discs, the percentage isn't as low as what people believe it to be simply because every graph always includes DLC, micro-transactions, etc. which can only be purchased via digital downloads which inflates the percentage.

I see discs being around for at least two more generations so I would say 2030 - 2035 depending on how long each of the next two generations last.

[ricky24]

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Operating on the logic that you can get a OneX “for 400 at times” we should probably assume you’ll be able to get this for 150 at times. If 250 is the actual retail price at launch.

[peter42O]

Re: Xbox One

Operating on the logic that you can get a OneX “for 400 at times” we should probably assume you’ll be able to get this for 150 at times. If 250 is the actual retail price at launch.

True but the difference is that getting an X for $400 is basically 12-18 months after it was released. Unless the disc less console completely bombs and flops to where retailers want to unload it, you're not going to get it for $150 that fast. Maybe Black Weekend if you're lucky.

I just don't see any value in it if it does in fact launch at $250. Favoritism aside, why would anyone spend $250 on a disc less console when right now, you can get a 1TB Slim model for $250 at Best Buy with the ability to play discs and a free game ranging from Minecraft to Battlefield 5 to The Division 2.

If it's $100, insane value. But not if it launches at $250. Plus, it's the exact same size as the Slim so can't even say it's smaller and you'll save shelf space because you won't. Microsoft has done a lot of positive and amazing things the last few years but if this turns out to be accurate, I just don't see any value in it whatsoever and even if you get past the price, Microsoft has been pushing Game Pass extremely hard so to not include it is simply baffling.

[DJ]

Re: Xbox One

Is there a significant graphics downgrade playing RDR2 on a One S? I know the One S can upscale to 4K for some games, but thought I saw RDR2 wasn't able to hit 1080p on the One S.

Was thinking about buying with the game on sale.

[ricky24]

Xbox One

If it's $100, insane value. But not if it launches at $250. Plus, it's the exact same size as the Slim so can't even say it's smaller and you'll save shelf space because you won't. Microsoft has done a lot of positive and amazing things the last few years but if this turns out to be accurate, I just don't see any value in it whatsoever and even if you get past the price, Microsoft has been pushing Game Pass extremely hard so to not include it is simply baffling.

I’m not really sure what you mean by “include game pass”. Including game pass with any console purchase would actually make no sense for them to do. Maybe a 1 month subscription or something. Which they still could do.

[XxGamerXx]

Re: Xbox One

Not a fan.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-much-does-xbox-one-s-all-digital-edition-cost?utm_source=wc_tw&utm_medium=tw_card&utm_content=64020&utm_campaign=social

It seems that we have firm confirmation that the Xbox One S All-Digital Edition is set for an early May 2019 launch, complete with copies of Minecraft, Sea of Thieves, and Forza Horizon 3 in the box. Also, we seem to have confirmation of that all important price point, which will hit around $249.99 RRP USD in the US

Could be a higher MSRP to allow for larger sales too thought I suppose. Thing should be $150 for X-Mas IMO.

Anyone who thinks the new xbox without a disc should be 100 or more less than standard xbox one s does not understand business

There is no difference between both consoles except the disc drive and most in this gen are now digital so it makes no difference except you might get a quieter console but why would someone pay 100 or more for the one with the disc drive when they are getting the same performance and quieter from the discless version.

People are confusing disc less drive xbox with a streaming machine

MS should get rid of the one with the drive all together and just make the disc less version going forward.

[XxGamerXx]

Re: Xbox One

That's beyond horrible. No disc drive. And instead of including Game Pass (which I would think would have been a given), they include three games that aren't really impressive. Everyone who wants to play Minecraft already owns it. Sea of Thieves is meh. And while Forza Horizon 3 is great, Forza Horizon 4 is obviously newer and better. The $250 price tag is nuts. You can get a brand new Slim for $200 sometimes with a game and it includes a disc drive.

Of course, as someone who heavily favors physical discs, the higher the price the better because it means that it will most likely crash and burn. I truly have no idea why Microsoft keeps trying to force the no disc drive aspect. Stop doing it. It doesn't work and is just a waste of money, time, resources, research and development. That's all it is.

More importantly, for the same price or less, why would anyone buy this disc less console and restrict themselves when they could have the ability to play discs, download games digitally and stream games in one unit?

But whatever, I don't see it selling whatsoever and being killed off before next gen gets here simply because I just don't see any value in it. No games and $100 price tag, okay, sure I can see that because you can just sign up for Game Pass which is digital downloads anyway and thus, you don't need a disc drive but $250, wow, just wow. SMH.

I got some bad news for you....Sony will do the same in the near future...so if disc is what you do only....Time to start thinking of other hobbies....Read much?

[ricky24]

Xbox One

I really don’t see myself buying a game on disc at this point. I can’t even tell you the last one I bought. I’ll probably always prefer console with a DD just for the ability to play UHD movies though. I’ll always prefer to watch my favorite flicks on a physical media. Since there is an advantage there.