Xbox One

[EnigmaNemesis]

Jumping to a few conclusions there. I seriously doubt MS would make it so you cant adjust privacy options. Privacy groups and the feds would be all over them if they did that.

The same Feds that wire tap and made it a law that all Americans can and will be spied on?

Seems like MS is conforming with the Patriot Act just as Google and Apple are already doing. With their top phones having no battery removal, and software that has government patents to control your recording abilities near federal building or rallies.



By the way, this is NOT a politics discussion, but an actual law that has been passed in not only the Patriot Act (all electronic devices, such as cell phones post 9/11 have to have monitoring capabilities) and the recent NDAA act.

I think a major monitoring device in your living room to go in conjunction with "Smart TVs" definitely pertains to healthy discussion on this matter of "privacy", and said information collected.

Information over the Internet is not protected via any "laws" in the new NDAA, etc.

[ANDROMADA 1]

Re: Xbox 720

PS4 here i come. Not buying the XBOX 720 now. The always on internet connection is bothersome enough, but the Kinect always required to be on is what is most troubling(not 100% confirmed). The Kinect can watch everything happening in your home, in real time, in 3D, with listening capabilities. Cant turn that off while the system is powered?

I dont think many people understand the ramifications of this. Absolute power corrupts absolutely....I will leave it at that

True. With privacy in mind and having little ones that play games I say no sir. Currently I disc the Kinect when not in use. I value my privacy. If it means no more gaming with xbox so be it. No system is worth that measure of intrusion.

"Anything that can get in the wrong hands usually does"-Andro

[DaveDQ]

Re: Xbox 720

"Anything that can get in the wrong hands usually does"-Andro

Kind of like the rumors and "leaks" getting in the wrong hands of some in this thread.

All we have here are posts expressing opinions based on incomplete information.

[dcal]

Re: Xbox 720

Kind of like the rumors and "leaks" getting in the wrong hands of some in this thread.

All we have here are posts expressing opinions based on incomplete information.

True, we dont have confirmation yet, but if the public does not express that this is a deal breaker prior to the launch it will not get changed. Many think the rumors were purposely planted by MS to gauge public response and if that is the case it was a smart move by them.....if they listen and change this.

[mestevo]

True, we dont have confirmation yet, but if the public does not express that this is a deal breaker prior to the launch it will not get changed. Many think the rumors were purposely planted by MS to gauge public response and if that is the case it was a smart move by them.....if they listen and change this.

Ah, there's the sound of goalposts being moved, so people can claim victory when rumors don't pan out.

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[DaveDQ]

Re: Xbox 720

True, we dont have confirmation yet, but if the public does not express that this is a deal breaker prior to the launch it will not get changed. Many think the rumors were purposely planted by MS to gauge public response and if that is the case it was a smart move by them.....if they listen and change this.

Many? Like who? Where are you getting this information that many are claiming this is all a ploy that MS is leaking rumors to then get a reaction and then make a decision?

Are we that naive to think that a company as big as MS is relying on internet reaction to their idea of "always on" to be the determining factor on whether or not they follow through? This stuff is decided upon from long meetings and planning sessions that focus on: Should it be done, how it will be done and when it will be done.

My point is we need to back off on the speculation and wait to see what gets revealed. I am not a fan of always on, but I don't see MS being so stubborn that they interrupt the process of a game and close up shop simply because you lost your internet connection. Do we really think they didn't cover their bases on this?

[Phobia]

Re: Xbox 720

Here is one
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/15...out-of-control

Microsoft has stayed silent on the issue, most likely allowing rumors and speculation to run rampant across the wilds of the internet, in order to gauge the reaction. Think of it like a secret survey; it’s actually a brilliant strategy. If the backlash is significant, Microsoft can simply announce the Xbox 720 without the rumored always-on connection, and say they never once said anything about the always-on requirement, which would be true. This would save the company much more face than if it announced the requirement itself, then had to retract the requirement due to the resulting backlash. The strategy makes us look like we’re in the wrong since we overreacted to unfounded rumors, and Microsoft in the right since it still hasn’t announced the requirement.

This is the thing Dave and what 23 is commenting on also. Most these larger "websites" are credible sources and commenting on the infomartion given to them, not leaking info but stuff that has supposedly been "leaked" to them. So where would this "leak" be coming from? The most obvious is a silent survey to gauge reaction created by MS.

[Hooe]

Re: Xbox 720

Friendly reminder that, per this previous moderator post, discussion in this thread should stay directly on-topic to the next-generation XBOX and not sidetrack to any other more speculative and non-gaming-related topics related to its rumored always-online requirement.

Carry on.

[Phobia]

Re: Xbox 720

Friendly reminder that, per this previous moderator post, discussion in this thread should stay directly on-topic to the next-generation XBOX and not sidetrack to any other more speculative and non-gaming-related topics related to its rumored always-online requirement.

Carry on.

What is off topic about what is being discussed? It's rumors about the 720, its features, and design decisions. I don't see what is remotely off topic about that. Now the mod post you linked to I do, we were going into the PC topic, but this is strictly been about the "Always on" and "Kinect spy". Both are related to the 720 through and through.

[ScoobySnax]

This thread has been highly entertaining the last few days.

[EnigmaNemesis]

What is off topic about what is being discussed? It's rumors about the 720, its features, and design decisions. I don't see what is remotely off topic about that. Now the mod post you linked to I do, we were going into the PC topic, but this is strictly been about the "Always on" and "Kinect spy". Both are related to the 720 through and through.

I do not see how that is off topic to this "rumor".

Can a mod please elaborate for us, in case we are truly missing something?

[Koolie G]

Re: Xbox 720

How can you read a legit news source and still call it a rumor man? It was a Microsoft planned idea put into action coming from them.

Are you skipping paragraphs on purpose ?

What i do know it's too many people including reliable folks saying the same thing...where there is smoke there is fire.


And who cares what people get it's their money. If someone doesn't care for an always on console that requires Kinect then that's their choice...good lord

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What legit news source are you referring to? The guy talking on his podcast about articles he read? He may have a lot of inside info and know exactly what he is talking about, but even he admits that it is not 100% fact.

No need to question my intelligence.

So reliable folks are saying the same thing, but Microsoft has made nothing formal. "Where there is smoke, there is fire." Is a phrase used to talk about rumors. Thanks for proving my point. In the end, these are rumors at this point. They may turn out to be true and I'm fine with that. The only point I'm trying to make is everyone is saying they will not buy the 720 if these things are true. I think once the official news comes out, even if those rumors are true, that people will change their mind about buying it. I'm basically just arguing psychology here. Right now this is all speculation.

Please read my previous posts. I didn't argue for people to buy or not buy the 720 or PS4. I don't know which I will get. I will make a decision after I have all the actual info. I never advocated for a particular system.

[Hooe]

Re: Xbox 720

I do not see how that is off topic to this "rumor".

Can a mod please elaborate for us, in case we are truly missing something?

Elaboration follows:

It was previously determined by a different moderator (Post #532 of this thread) that the topic of surveillance is not a primary discussion for this message board with regard to the next-generation XBOX, and - in response to a post report about political discussion in this thread in combination with the aforementioned previous moderator request - I posted as I did to steer discussion away from that topic.

To be clear, the discussion of always-online as it pertains to games and services directly offered to the consumer by Microsoft - including the implications of internet outages and other service interruptions upon the use of the device and any of its software - is fine. Topics which even begin to flirt with subjects of political nature, including but not limited to surveillance via a potentially always-on Kinect sensor, have been deemed not fit to discuss on this thread.

If there are any further issues or questions, please direct them via private messages and not this thread as per the Terms of Service.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Unfortunately on the iPhone tapatalk app, it does not show who is a moderator, nor does the link you posted go to the post. It goes to an entirely different thread.

:/

[23]

Re: Xbox 720

What legit news source are you referring to? The guy talking on his podcast about articles he read? He may have a lot of inside info and know exactly what he is talking about, but even he admits that it is not 100% fact.

I was referring to the acquisition of Mediaroom announcement

No need to question my intelligence.

Wouldnt and didnt think about it

So reliable folks are saying the same thing, but Microsoft has made nothing formal.

That's their first problem right there.

"Where there is smoke, there is fire." Is a phrase used to talk about rumors. Thanks for proving my point. In the end, these are rumors at this point. They may turn out to be true and I'm fine with that.

In this day and age of information, information gets out before its officially released, whether its an Iphone, a Galaxy Note, even a videogame system... M$ is not covered in Fort Knox security..there are people who have information divuldged to them just like the others. You can dismiss it and just as easily cannot provide an ounce of proof that what they say is not true. At this point we can look at patterns, history, the diagrams that have been shown on the architecture, etc. to rely on and its not pointing to many things just being some made up water cooler story.

The only point I'm trying to make is everyone is saying they will not buy the 720 if these things are true. I think once the official news comes out, even if those rumors are true, that people will change their mind about buying it. I'm basically just arguing psychology here. Right now this is all speculation.

I honestly don't care what other people do with their funds, its their choice. If they wanna chest bang about what they wont do then do it... it wouldnt be the first time (aint that right FF)

Im not arguing psychology myself and yes it is wait and see what they have to say officially, but people are being pointed in a direction from where M$ is coming
Please read my previous posts. I didn't argue for people to buy or not buy the 720 or PS4. I don't know which I will get. I will make a decision after I have all the actual info. I never advocated for a particular system.[/QUOTE]